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falling into a "blown" drain cover that is submerged under water is a very dangerous situation to befall , im suprised it doesnt happen more often
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falling into a "blown" drain cover that is submerged under water is a very dangerous situation to befall
That thought had never occured to me, what a horrible way to go.
Water/suction type things are a bit of a phobia of mine! (wave machines at pools etc)
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my villiage often gets flood signs put up occasionally through out the year as its close to the river soar near mountsorrel , so we take the back roads ( up the hill) and around to get on the main drag , i think its a few dimmed brained cretins who think that driving through a flooded road is a good laugh till they get unstuck when there alternator gets waterlogged or the starter motor shorts the diode pack via said alternator as its slung low (fords) amongst many im sure
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How many of these pink fluffy dice hydraulic locked their engines I wonder?
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How many of these pink fluffy dice hydraulic locked their engines I wonder? ------------------------------
I had to go and get a tyre repaired yesterday morning. There was a bloke in the garage with a Fiesta, the fitter told me the owner had driven into water which he thought was a foot deep, but was actually three feet deep. "He's totally wrecked his engine", he told me in a loud voice within earshot of the owner (but he didnt say wrecked, he said something else the swear filter wouldnt like).
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"driving through a flooded road ""near mountsorrel ,"
Slash Lane, Joe??
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Slash Lane Joe??
yeah , betwix sorrel and the barrow road
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im in sileby so i go for the ratcliffe road tward the a46 on such occasions, where are you then phil?
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One bloke in Pershore tried to drive through a ford, despite the fact it was in flood with a depth gauge visible - the car got swept away - they found a body today.
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theres always one..poor bloke
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"where are you then phil? "
Barrow on Soar- and I could go via Sileby to work each day but go "over the top" via Paudy Lane and Seagrave to A46. Too much traffic on Barrow -Sileby road, especially when floods are up and everybody goes that way, and all the school buses! Noticed Slash lane and Sileby -
Mountsorrel closed much of this week. Usual pictures on TV of people ignoring the signs and getting stuck!
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This Sheffield thing makes me mad as hell. These guys get to screw up their cars for free. I had to pay good money to drive my Landy all the way to the off-road course at Driffield to destroy the starter motor, clog the rad with silt and blow the gasket.
There's no justice.
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Going off at a slight tangent ~ having an inspection pit is all very well until you get the amount rain we've had recently. Yesterday I spent over an hour pumping 580 mm (depth) of water out of mine. Before I look into the pit today I'm going to buy some 25 mm hose to replace the 12 mm hose currently on the outlet of the pump to try to speed up the process.
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My inspection pit is dry.. or at least no damper than normal. Mind you we are halfway up a hill and the garage is on ground downwards sloping..
(Part of my house choosing criteria is flooding.. or likelhood of. I was brought up near the sea and local flooding was a every winter occurrence. I saw pictures of classic places to flood: new houses on flood plains, near rivers etc. All those are nogos as far as I am concerned...)
As far as motoring goes, well nothing surprises me. I reckon a good 10% of motorists either leave common sense behind when they start driving .. or have none..Rule no#1 If you can't see the road, don't drive into the flood...We've had lots of rain but nothing like the flash storms of 2 ?3 years ago when water was literally rushing down the fields and flooding roads that were not flat (i.e they were on a slope).. the volumes were so great the roads could not cope...
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We've had lots of rainbut nothing like the flash storms of 2 ?3 years ago when water was literally rushing down the fields and flooding roads that were not flat (i.e they were on a slope).. the volumes were so great the roads could not cope... madf
This was exactly what we had in the north side of the city - out towards Stocksbridge (on the way to Woodhead pass) we had torrents of water tearing up the tarmac on some very steep roads indeed. Certain roads that you would think would never flood in a million years did, in fact, erm...flood. The water washed away the verges and then got underneath the road and washed away the foundations, causing the tarmac to lift, break up and then get washed away. Certain other rivers that are usually muddy ditches rose 3 metres above normal in the space of 2-3 hours.
Incidentally, the main A61 into/out of Sheffield is shut outside Chapeltown on the Crown garage bend (junction of the A629 for Huddersfield) and will be for 2 months. What I described above happened, and the road has split, and has no foundations. They need to dig it out and relay the whole lot. Should be nice, as the major arterial road in from the north (M1 J36). There are diversions, but they go a long way round.
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My one hour commute on Monday evening turned into 4 hours as a colleague (who was driving) and I had to divert around traffic jams and numerous closed roads.
Worst example of driving I saw was an inconsiderate 4x4 driver. Some cars were driving slowly through a section of flooded road, and the 4x4 driver (coming from the opposite direction) obviously thought 'no problem', and drove through pretty fast. It created a huge bow-wave which threatened to swamp the cars going in the opposite direction!
One interesting incident: We'd stopped at a flood, because we were unsure of the depth. A car had broken down after going through, and was stuck in the middle of the road just ahead of us.
Then a white people carrier type van with privacy glass windows suddenly pulled in front of us. We thought "that's cheeky" then noticed the flashing blue lights in the indicators. Four police officers got out, all wearing body armour, baseball caps and boots. It was the armed response unit! They pushed the broken down car to the side of the road and cleared a fallen tree branch, then drove off through the flood, which conveniently showed us that it wasn't too deep.
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What I couldn't believe was all those children playing in it......full of all kinds of stuff....pooh springs to mind.
Pooh and Piglet were marooned on an island after torrential rain, but were rescued after Piglet sent a message in a bottle.
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On a few other forums I read the cretins in question are actually whining that they were stopped by 'mickey mouse pretend policeman' from proceeding on their way through the flooding. Amazing isn't it?
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I read the cretins in question are actually whining that they were stopped by 'mickey mouse pretend policeman' from proceeding on their way through the flooding. Amazing isn't it?
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I recently posted about an AA man blocking the road re a flood........and glad he did......why on earth not accept whatever help you can get?
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>Pooh and Piglet were marooned on an island...
Not quite. Piglet was stuck in his house while Pooh was up a tree with his jars of honey. Pooh got Piglet's message but couldn't read it, so he paddled a jar - named The Floating Bear - to Christopher Robin, whose house had become an island. CR read the Important Missage and he and Pooh set off in his upturned umbrella - named The Brain of Pooh - to rescue Piglet. Winnie the Pooh then concludes with the grand party thrown by CR in honour of Pooh's bravery. Then, in The House at Pooh Corner, Piglet reciprocates by escaping heroically from a fallen tree to summon help for Owl and Pooh.
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Many thanks for that correction, WdeB. I must read the book again.
I think all motorists should carry large umbrellas in case they get stranded in floodwater. (It is actually possible to float in a golfing umbrella - the difficulty is getting in)
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I knew someone would come up with a motoring link - good work, Cliff!
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>>I think all motorists should carry large umbrellas in case they get stranded in floodwater
Or fit external airbags to the bottom of cars so they can float
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The problem is that cars DO float (for a short while anyway)
If the water gets too deep, and it has some strong flow, you can soon find that your wheels dont touch and you are then in deep doo doo.
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>>If the water gets too deep, and it has some strong flow, you can soon find that your wheels dont touch and you are then in deep doo doo.
Yes,but with bags fitted they should at least be stable enough to prevent further damage.
Theory anyway,probably wouldnt work in the real world??
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WillDeBeest, you've made me feel 5 years old! I may suck my thumb and have a sleep now.
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Just popping off on a slight tangent, re the Mickey Mouse Policemen.
In a nearby town, a lollipop person was off sick for a few weeks, so a local PCSO took it upon himself to "step into the breach" at the appropriate times. Then a "red-tape" fanatic at the local council realised that PCSO's do not have the power to stop traffic as do proper bobbies, and duly reported the situation to Police chiefs, who had no alternative to withdraw his help. As they had no spare person to take his place, this left the darling tykes at the mercy of nasty mr car man.
one word, LUNACY!
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Worst example of driving I saw was an inconsiderate 4x4 driver. Some cars were driving slowly through a section of flooded road and the 4x4 driver obviously thought 'no problem' and drove through pretty fast. It created a huge bow-wave which threatened to swamp the cars going in the opposite direction!
I saw a bloke in a lorry do the same thing, the water was getting on for 18" deep and he tore through it as if it wasnt there, created a massive wave, its a good job there wasnt a car going through on our side at the time.
The dumbest one I saw (I walked to the post office as our local roads were gridlocked) was on a flooded roundabout a Polo had been abandoned in the water with hazard flashers on, there was room for other cars to squeeze past, which they had been doing. Then one idiot bloke turned up and stopped behind the Polo, blocking the road, and stalled his car. So a fire crew had to stop what they were doing and push him out of the way. Was as if he had not seen the stationary Polo with the hazards on until he got right up behind it!
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carry a tarpaulin!
From www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/98/a2098398.sh...l:
"I remembered reading a book ?Across Africa in an Austin Seven?. When they came to a river too deep to ford, they wrapped the car in a tarpaulin and carried it into the water. If only I could carry my lorries. Then it occurred to me put them in the water first and afterwards pump out the water. The O.C. was not very keen and thought it might capsize. I assured him that with a beam of seven feet and a draft of five inches it could not. I thought of all the possible snags. Obviously there must be a frame underneath. When I made this I was careful to make sure there were no sharp corners to snag the tarpaulin and no gaps. At last I was ready my Havildar (sergeant) came to me and said ?The lorry won?t float, Sahib, the tarpaulin won?t float. I remember in the training battalion we made rafts with petrol cans. Let me fill the lorry with cans. I will cover them over so no one knows, and then it might float?. The next day we spent raking the river bed to make sure there were no stones which could tear the tarpaulin. We pumped it out and it floated. The Havildar came to me and said ?My leg has been pulled most unmercifully. May I take a truck and bring the other senior N.C.O?s and show them?? When they and most of the Squadron returned, he had them lined up and the river bank and harangued them and said that is what C Troop does."
I've seen this done, BTW, with a caravan that a guy wanted to get across a Scottish loch, to use as temp accom. while he re-built the croft. It was too big to fit down the lane.
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Same theory as the duplex drive tank. Word here is theory, didnt work too well in practise on the day.
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I frequently wonder why the emergency services don't have a fleet of small, low cost hovercraft for flood rescue work like the RNLI does [ for people who get stuck in quicksand and mud flats ]?
These things carry about half a dozen people and can easily fit on a normal sized trailer for easy deployment.
It would completely avoid the risks of rescue workers falling into those blown manholes and would be much faster than boats and dinghys with the added advantage of not making any noticable wash.
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Slightly off topic, watching today's news I was treated to a view of two Police Officers in a RIB slowly making their way along flooded streets, both were wearing body armour, a bit iffy if the fell in surely.
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"both were wearing body armour"
A precaution against angry motorists, perhaps, if the rest of this thread is any indication.
I enjoyed the Pooh/Piglet diversion, though...
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Have you seen the size of those Sheffield Swordfish?
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