Puretech is no more - Adampr

Mentioned on another thread, but I was interested to learn that the Puretech name has now been retired by Stellantis. This ties in with new engines having chains instead of belts, along with a list of other upgrades.

This article discusses the change and has a useful list of which vehicles now have a chain.

www.italpassion.fr/en/guides/stellantis-1-2-purete.../

Puretech is no more - Lee Power

We will have to wait & see if this "dont call me Puretech" engine its better then PSA previous design efforts using a timing chain, the Prince engine wasn't that great for long term reliability.

Puretech is no more - RT

PSA/Stellantis do seem to have developed several complete ranges of engines in recent decades, none of which have the same reliability record as their earlier engines.

Puretech is no more - Engineer Andy

Is this going to be a complete dropping of 'wet belts' or, like with Ford and their EcoBoost petrol engines, dropping the main drive belt for a chain, but leaving an aux belt in oil?

They should've (all) dropped them years ago with all the issues, and TBH, if they (and Ford) had done proper R&D, they'd have never gone down that design path in the first place.

What a waste of money and effort.

Puretech is no more - Terry W

The link above is from February 2025 and from a brief look it seems chain cam had already been implemented on some models anyway. There are also timing chain conversion kits available.

So I am unclear whether this represents a major shift or just tinkering with the spec of an existing motor.

I do wonder whether why they would bother to invest anything much in ICE technology given the commitment of the UK to go 100% EV by 2030, and the EU by 2035.

Puretech is no more - Adampr

The link above is from February 2025 and from a brief look it seems chain cam had already been implemented on some models anyway. There are also timing chain conversion kits available.

So I am unclear whether this represents a major shift or just tinkering with the spec of an existing motor.

I do wonder whether why they would bother to invest anything much in ICE technology given the commitment of the UK to go 100% EV by 2030, and the EU by 2035.

It's the same engine, just adapted to have a chain and not consume as much oil.

They have ten years worth of sales in the EU to pursue, plus an indefinite amount of time in the US (notably Jeep).

Puretech is no more - focussed
I have a Honda brushcutter with a GX 35 four stroke motor that has a wet cambelt, and a plastic camshaft.
It revs to 11000 on the rev limiter if you need it.
It hasn't had a problem in getting on for 12 years.
It runs ordinary 10w-30 supermarket oil
How come Stellantis didn't look at this and modify their thinking?
Puretech is no more - Terry W
I have a Honda brushcutter with a GX 35 four stroke motor that has a wet cambelt, and a plastic camshaft. It revs to 11000 on the rev limiter if you need it. It hasn't had a problem in getting on for 12 years. It runs ordinary 10w-30 supermarket oil How come Stellantis didn't look at this and modify their thinking?

I am not sure an unstressed 36cc, 1.3 bhp motor can sensibly be compared to one with 130 bhp from a component stress and lubrication perspective - albeit with 3 extra cylinders.

Amateur users may use a brush cutter for an hour or so half a dozen times a year. Even professional gardeners likely use one intermittently. 10 hours amateur use equates to a mileage of ~300 miles pa. For professional user - perhaps 3000 miles pa.

Puretech is no more - John F

Well, actually it's very much 'more', no matter what they are called. There are literally millions of these cracking little engines happily clocking up billions of miles worldwide and it looks as though they are still making lots of BIO ones. They need the correct oil, PSA B71 2312. A jugful of bog standard 0-30 from the garage's bargain basement barrel won't do. That's why many owners like myself do their own oil and filter changes. They also need a good quality belt, e.g. a Contitech CT1188, or better still, the CT1228 launched in 2020. The unfit for purpose original DAYCO crumbly belt seriously damaged this engine's reputation, resulting in much justified opprobrium and namecalling, e.g. 'purecr@p'.

Puretech is no more - Lee Power

The 308 I owned only ever had the same suppling Peugeot main dealer put oil in it until it started consuming & burning oil at 6 years / 43k miles old.

Then I added Comma Eco P 0W-30 PSA B71 2312 to top it up, I left the unused half litre of new oil in the boot for the next owner when I traded it in.

FWIW - The same Peugeot main dealer also argued my case when Peugeot UK " lack of " customer care at first wasn't going to pay to decoke the inlet valves of there multiple award winning engine at 34k miles / 4 years old - on a vehicle with a full up to date Peugeot main dealer service history & extended Peugeot warranty.