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Selling an Import - Andrew Barnes
Dear All

I am having major grief selling my imported 5 month old Golf GTI 1.8T. It was suggested on this board a few months ago that I would get the full UK trade price, but I can't get anything like it, even advertised in Autotrader for £13999.

What should I do? The VW dealers wont touch it, I had an offer from a local dealer for 13K, should I take it?

Andrew
Re: Selling an Import - Perkypenguin
It is just another step in the Great British rip-off. They can't stitch you up on new cars now, so they do it in 'imports'! Of course your car is an import, it was built in bl**dy Germany wasn't it? They have a good idea of what you paid for it and relate their trade in to that rather than the UK list price, I imagine. If you keep the car a longer time the effect may lessen (5 years plus perhaps). In the meantime you bought cheap so you are expected to sell cheap. Good luck
Re: Selling an Import - honest john
The car was more likely to have been built in South Africa than Germany. But its main problems are the new 180bhp six speed GTi 1.8T which is about to hit the roads and the new registration from 1/9/2001. If you can't get more than £13k advertising on www.autotrader.co.uk, then take it. You can't have lost much.

HJ
Re: Selling an Import - Andrew Barnes
Are you sure the 180bhp version is coming, on the German VW website it looks like a limited edition, also phoned VW UK a few weeks ago who knew nothing?

Andrew
Re: Selling an Import - Andrew Barnes
Has a W on the VIN number, before the serial number indicating the car was made in Wolfsburg.

Andrew
Leon 1.8T vs Golf - Guy Lacey
HJ is spot-on, as we should expect. The 1.8T Seat Leon has the 180bhp engine and has had it since its launch - it is a *real* flyer, especially with the 6-speed box. Even being a VW enthusiast I would go for a Leon over a Golf purely over performance and extras - there is no difference in quality just the badge. Hey, one day I may buy the Skoda Octavia RS, now that *is* a smart motor with a badge problem but methinks not for long.

The 150bhp 1.8T Golf is too weak for such a solid car and I suspect people have cottoned-on to this and that is why they are leaving the 1.8T Golfs alone in general - not just yours.

Is it the Jazz Blue one from a while ago? I don't think the colour helps to be honest. Metallic blues, blacks and silvers have the best resale.
Re: Leon 1.8T vs Golf - crazed idiot
i understood golfs had different badges on here to on the continent, ie we accept a less well spec'd engine...
Re: Leon 1.8T vs Golf - Andrew Barnes
Jazz blue is a current popular pearlescent colour

Andrew
Re: Selling an Import - Andy Bairsto
Take it ,like HJ said it was built in South Africa or for the SA market with different paint spec.And contary to what people say you cannot import from Europe WE are in Europe one big market,It is only the uk that seems to think there is a border.
Re: Selling an Import - Michael
on the subject of where was it built (a different subject I know), the VIN number tells all. See below for VW, Digit 11 is the factory. (might be slightly out of date):


Digit #1 stands for the Manufacturing Country
*W - Germany (Europe)
*1 - USA
*3 - Mexico
*9 - Brazil
Digit #2 is the Manufacture
*A - Audi
*B - VW of Brazil
*V - Volkswagen
Digit #3 is the Vehicle Type
*1 - Pickup / truck
*2 - MPV (Multi Purpose Vehicle)
*U - Passenger Car (Audi)
*W - Passenger Car (VW)
Digit #4 is the Body Style
Note: These are only a small set of possibilities. If your vehicle body style letter is not listed, try looking for the same letter under other vehicle types, chances are they may be similar.
1980-84 Pickup (Caddy)
*? - Base Model
*? - Sport Truck
*L - LX
1987-93 Fox
*A - 2 Door Basic
*B - 2 Door Economy
*C - 2 Door Custom
*D - 2 Door Wagon
*G - 4 Door Custom
1985-95 Golf
*B - 2 Door Custom
*D - 2 Door Sport
*D - 2 Door GTi
*F - 4 Door Custom
*H - 2 Door GTi 16V
*K - 4 Door Golf III
1985-95 Jetta
*A- 2 Door Economy
*K - 2 Door Base
*M - 2 Door Custom
*P - 4 Door Base
*R - 4 Door Custom GL / Caret / Economy
*S - 4 Door GLS / Custom
*T - 4 Door GLI / GLX
1983-95 Rabbit / Cabriolet
*A - 2 Door Base
*B - 2 Door Custom (1992-93)
*C - 2 Door Custom (1983-91)
*D - 2 Door Carat
*E - 2 Door Etienne Aigner
1983-88 Quantum
*A - 1983-88 2 Door Basic
*B - 1983-88 2 Door Custom
*C - 1983-88 2 Door Deluxe
*D - 1983-88 2 Door Sport
*E - 1983-88 4 Door Basic
*F - 1983-88 4 Door Custom
*G - 1983-88 4 Door Deluxe
1983-88 Scirocco (USA)
*A - 1983-88 2 Door Basic
*B - 1983-88 2 Door Custom
*C - 1983-88 2 Door Deluxe
*D - 1983-88 2 Door Sport
1983-89 Scirocco (Canada)
*A - 1983-89 2 Door Basic
*B - 1983-88 2 Door Custom
*C - 1983-89 2 Door Deluxe
*D - 1983-89 2 Door Sport
1990-94 Corrado(USA)
*D - 1990-92 2 Door Sport
*E - 1992-94 2 Door SLC
1995 Corrado (Canada)
*E - 1995 2 Door SLC
Vanagon / Transporter
*U - 2 door Pickup
*V - 3 door double cab Pickup
*W - 3 door Delivery Van
*X - 1983-88 Kombi
*Y - 1983-92 3 door Bus (Vanagon)
*Z - 1983-92 3 door Camper
1992-95 EuroVan
*H - EuroVan CL
*K - EuroVan GL
1990-95 Passat
*C - 4 Door GLS
*D - 4 Door Wagon GLS
*E - 4 Door GLX
*F - 4 Door Wagon GLX
*F - 4 Door Custom GL
*G - 4 Door Wagon GL
*H - 4 Door Base
*J - 4 Door Deluxe GLX / GLS
*N - 4 Door Wagon Custom GLX
Digit #5 is for the Engine
*A - Lowest output gas
*F - 1.9l TDI
*G - Lowest output diesel
(Note: Listed by increasing output available for each model; contact local dealer for detailed engine information.)
Digit #6 is for type of Restraint System
*0 - Active; i.e. Manual seatbelt
*2 - Passive w/Manual Lap Belt
*4 - ELRA (motorized)
*5 - Active Belts w/Driver Air Bag
*6 - Front and side Air Bags
*8 - Active Belts w/Dual Air Bags
*9 - Passive
Digit #7-8 are for the Model
*15 - 1983-93 Convertible, Cabriolet
*16 - 1983-88 Jetta
*17 - 1980?-92 Rabbit, Pickup, Golf, GTi
*1C - New Beetle
*1E - 1995 Cabrio
*1G - 1989-92 Golf / Jetta
*1H - 1993-95 Golf / Jetta
*24 - VW Transporter (Pickup and Multivan)
*25 - 1983-92 Vanagon, Transporter Van
*30 - 1987-93 Fox
*31 - 1990-95 Passat
*32 - 1983-88 Quantum 2 Door and 4 Door
*33 - 1985-88 Quantum Station Wagon and Quattro
*3A - 1995 Passat
*43 - Audi 5000 / older
*44 - Audi 5000/100/200/V8
*4A - Audi S4/100CS/V8
*50 - 1990-95 Corrado
*53 - 1983-88 Scirocco
*60 - 1994-95 Corrado
*70 - EuroVan
*78 - Passat?
*81 - Audi 4000
*83 - Audi 4000
*85 - Audi Coupe GT
*89 - Audi 90
*8A - Audi 90
*8B - Audi Coupe
Digit #9 is the VIN Check Digit Manufacturer's Internal Code
Digit #10 is the Vehicle Model Year
*A - 1980
*B - 1981
*C - 1982
*D - 1983
*E - 1984
*F - 1985
*G - 1986
*H - 1987
*J - 1988
*K - 1989
*L - 1990
*M - 1991
*N - 1992
*P - 1993
*R - 1994
*S - 1995
*T - 1996
*V - 1997
*W - 1998
*X - 1999
*Y - 2000
*1 - 2001
*2 - 2002
*3 - 2003
Digit #11 is the Assembly Plant
*A - Ingolstadt
*B - Brussels
*E - Emden
*G - Graz
*H - Hanover
*K - Osnabruck
*M - Mexico
*N - Neckarsulm
*P - Brazil
*S - Stuttgart
*V - Westmoreland, PA. (USA)
*W - Wolfsburg
*Y - Spain (SEAT)
Digit #12-17 are reserved for the Serial Number Sequential Production Number
Re: Selling an Import - honest john
If anyone has a RHD MK IV Golf they can tell us the VIN digit for built in South Africa.

HJ
Re: Selling an Import - Michael
have just looked at a 2001 mkiv golf 1.6 se estate that has W (Wolfsburg) for its digit 11 "assembly plant". Assuming "W" still means wolfsburg of course
 

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