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Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - JohnHonestly

10 years motoring is what I'm looking for from a used (3-5 years old) SUV, living in the sticks - few hills but slipping and sliding a seasonal prob. SO the question is what to go for?

Budget: I don't have buckets of cash just got an inheritence and my runaround is on it's last, around £12K so it's got last :)

Two teenagers and a dog and 2 adults so good leg room and central soundproof screen (joke!), poss leather seats (easy to keep clean)

Good MPG (I'm thinking 45ish would be nice) and low as is possible servicing/tax/parts etc.

A nice drive would be appreciated - I do around 10K miles a year so a bit of comfort would be nice as well as a few toys for winter, heated windscreen, seats, remote starting (is that available anyway?!) 2WD is fine.

I've been looking around and have quickly become confused with so many conflicting opinions but a few more are always appreciated. Here's what I've found as options:

Honda CRV 2.2 i-CTDI
Nissan Qashqai 1.5dCi N-Tec
Hyundai ix35 2.0 CRDi 136 Style 2WD
Volvo XC60
VW Tiguan 2.0 TDi Bluemotion Tech 4Motion
Kia Sportage 1.7CRDi

Any other experiences or suggestions welcome - thanks in advance!

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - unthrottled

SUV, living in the sticks-few hills but slipping and sliding a seasonal prob. SO the question is what to go for?

2WD is fine.

All you'll get with this is an elevated driving position of slipping and sliding. That said, I know three people with 1.5dci Qashqais-and they are are are thrilled with them. I heaven't the heart to tell them that it's a Megane on stilts. A meggie with the same engine is nippier, handles better and gets better economy...

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - gordonbennet

I'd trust the Honda to still be running well at 15 years, probably the Kia/Hyundai too, the others i suspect will possibly need more and costlier maintenance to keep them going, but thats only my opinion i might have it completely wrong.

Any of them could throw up a fault that costs a serious wedge to fix, all of them will have a better chance of lasting longer if you maintain meticulously, including keeping the underside clean and washing the salt off etc, greasing the brake pipes and servicing the brakes properly (few do), periodic brake fluid and all transmission fluids and cambelt (if fitted) changes, sensible long term care.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - Happy Blue!

Heated screens are likely only to come with Fords, so look at Mk1 Kugas for your money. With 2wd you will need Mud & Snow tyres to stop slipping and sliding

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - xtrailman

Thats a strange list to me.

None of them are good for 45mpg locally expect perhaps the cashcow.

The tig is virtually permanent 4wd, and the xc-60 will only return high 30's on a run.

But if you want long term reliability you should be looking at a car without a turbo and DPF.

Have a look at whatcar real mpg.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - Avant

If you;re doing 10,000 a year I don't think you need a diesel. Diesels still hold their value better than petrols (although this differential probably won't last for much longer) so are more expensive to buy. This and the greater possibility of expensive repairs as mileage mounts can easily negate the saving in fuel costs.

Go fo something like a petrol Ford Mondeo or Mazda 6, and get some winter tyres for a minimum of 'slipping and sliding'. If you do need a MPV or SUV, Ford (C-Max and Kuga) and Mazda (Mazda 5) can oblige, and you could add the Skoda Yeti and Toyota RAV-4 to that list, as well as petrol versions of some of the cars you've already named..

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - unthrottled

Can't criticise the Renault 1.5 for being unreliable or complicated. It has about half the moving parts of a modern petrol (and still much more efficient albeit noisy). It's a bit peaky in a cashcow, but adequate. People who have cashcows seem to like them-but it is no more capable than a hatchbacko n slippy terrain.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - JohnHonestly

And there I was thinking I could narrow the list - looks like it just got bigger.

Interesting to see suggestion that petrol would be a more economical option over time if I'm doing around 10000 miles pa - I thought the diesel would be but I know less and less it seems :)

I think an SUV or similar (something higher than a car) would need to be the option as we do get big puddles - not as big as Somerset though!

I'll take a look at the Ford Kuga as well...

and the Mazda 6...

and the Renault 1.5...

and the Ford Mondeo...

and not rush in to a decision just yet - keep the suggestions coming though!

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - RT

AFAIK the petrol/diesel break is still around 15,000 miles/year - it was coming down but the effect of low mileage on DPFs has kept it up.

Any of the modern Crossovers will give the extra ground clearance for wading as modern cars start to float as soon as the sills are in the water.

Unless you invest in two sets of tyres, summer/winter, just fit a decent set of All-Season, eg Pirelli Scorpion Verde All-Season M&S.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - skidpan

AFAIK the petrol/diesel break is still around 15,000 miles/year - it was coming down but the effect of low mileage on DPFs has kept it up.

Any of the modern Crossovers will give the extra ground clearance for wading as modern cars start to float as soon as the sills are in the water.

Unless you invest in two sets of tyres, summer/winter, just fit a decent set of All-Season, eg Pirelli Scorpion Verde All-Season M&S.

I have posted on here before the actual figures I calculated for my BMW 118 I owned for 5 1/2 years.I did about 7000 miles a year in it and after taking all costs into account I saved about £2500 compared to a 118i. Those costs include the extra it was new and the extra I got for it in PX (based on Parkers). £2500 is not a small saving.

Wifes Kia Ceed does 10000 miles a year, had it 3 1/2 years and we are saving quite a bit compared to the petrol version but the projected savings are not as great as the BMW.

In both cases the diesel cars drive way better than their gutless petrol equivalent thus even if there were no savings I wuld still have bought the same models.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - RT

It's not easy to include average repair costs, which any new purchaser should - an individual historical analysis will be skewed either way by actual repair costs.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - SteveLee

Petrol CR-V, it'll be cheaper to buy and will last forever.

The previous KIA Sportage has a reputation for DMF problems - dunno if it's fixed on the current model.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - Avant

What Skidpan says of course makes perfect sense. But he's bought, I think, new or nearly-new, and you're looking at something 3 to 5 years old which you want to keep long-term. I personally would be put off a diesel by the thought of expensive repairs as mileage mounts.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - xtrailman

Anyone driving a petrol car may be put off with the fuel which is due possibly next year.

Called E10 it contains upto 10% ethanol, one side effect is reduced performance.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - SteveLee

Anyone driving a petrol car may be put off with the fuel which is due possibly next year.

Called E10 it contains upto 10% ethanol, one side effect is reduced performance.

Most modern cars advance ignition timing to the point of knock, the power loss from the slightly reduced calorific value of the fuel will more likely be largely made up by more aggresive ignition timing or higher boost (for turbo cars) before detonation which will be a useful by product of having ethanol in the fuel. Exhaust valve seat temperatures will also be reduced.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - Ronneh

I wouldn't rule out the Skoda Yeti Outdoor, I believe topgear tested it against the Range Rover and it outperformed it!

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - KB.

"I wouldn't rule out the Skoda Yeti Outdoor, I believe topgear tested it against the Range Rover and it outperformed it!"

Having got a Yeti I would ask what exactly would give anyone the belief that a Range Rover "outperforms" it. To be honest it' sounds like a bit of an ill informed generalization and to make reference to it sounds rather pointless.

To be sure I like my Yeti......but there's no way it compares to a RR....in any respect really!

It's smaller, much cheaper, comes from a different category of vehicle, doesn't have anything like the same degree off offroad or wading ability......I really can't see that mine would outperform mine in any way shape or form. Mine probably does a bit more to the gallon and costs a bit less to insure and takes up less room on the driveway and costs half as much to buy but I really wouldn't like to go head to head with it in any sort of performance tests.

Edited by KB. on 07/02/2014 at 16:10

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - SteveLee

I wouldn't rule out the Skoda Yeti Outdoor, I believe topgear tested it against the Range Rover and it outperformed it!

Don't be so ridiculous, the Range Rover has vastly more wheel articulation and much more ground clearance - it can also wade at practically double the Yeti's maximum depth - not in the same league - not even close. You might find one or two situations where the Yeti performs well thanks to the lower kerb weight or smaller size but these will be the exceptions - not the rule.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - xtrailman

The yeti may well be better in snow due to narrow tyres, the panda is also good for the same reason.

Wide tyres in snow dont help.

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - KB.

The yeti may well be better in snow due to narrow tyres, the panda is also good for the same reason.

Wide tyres in snow dont help.

Not that narrow, xtrail. Mine has the standard 225/50/17 fitted in summer. (Dunlop SP Sport 01 on mine). As it happens it currently has 215/60/16 winter Dunlops on steel wheels on it with no discernible drawbacks in tems of handling and comfort. (Quite the opposite, in fact, re the comfort aspect).

Agreed the Panda's are sensibly narrower (and come with All Season tyres if I recall).

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - KB.

I wouldn't rule out the Skoda Yeti Outdoor, I believe topgear tested it against the Range Rover and it outperformed it!

Don't be so ridiculous, the Range Rover has vastly more wheel articulation and much more ground clearance - it can also wade at practically double the Yeti's maximum depth - not in the same league - not even close. You might find one or two situations where the Yeti performs well thanks to the lower kerb weight or smaller size but these will be the exceptions - not the rule.

I think that's exactly what I said a short way further up.

(But I did make a hash of my first paragraph and contradicted myself by getting things back to front, for which I apologize).... :-)

Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - APV
The Honda is the one that will last.
Have you looked at a Subaru Forrester?
Get a second set of wheels with some decent M&S tyres on (Nokians are good) for the colder months and either Honda or Subaru will be a splendid choice, either petrol or diesel. Petrol likely to be problem free for longer, but you won't get 45mpg.
Honda CRV Nissan Qashqai Hyundai Kia Sportage etc. - You see a used SUV you say - Scottie Boy

Hiya John,

I just got rid of a KIA Sportage 2.0 CRDi KX3 4x4 which I bought brand new just over a year ago. I have put a review of it on the site here and tbh I would rather walk than have another one of these overpriced lumps of junk. It looked great but was a total plug and KIA UK had the same customer service attitude of a well known Irish budget airline. Go for a Ford Kuga mate

 

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