It's almost as if you didn't notice there is a whole website attached to this forum...

The currently highlighted review on www.honestjohn.co.uk/ ...is the Prius.

In that review, there is the following sentence on the first page : "The boot is spacious with a capacity of 343 litres."

Then a few pages later: "That said, it is still very spacious and practical - capacity to the load cover is 343 litres, or 502 litres to the roof. Capacity can be expanded even further by folding the rear seats flat, freeing up 1558 litres."

I think it's more around 420 - 430 with the tyre repair kit based on rough measurements under the load cover, which would be in agreement with the data from the US models. (80litres more with the kit compared to the donut style wheel).

Who knows. I think reviews should be consistent in the numbers they mention, otherwise you risk discouraging people with inacurrate information.

Except Toyota US website shows a difference of much more than that between repair kit and space saver. The plot thickens.

Avant, I appreciate its going a bit off topic but since I have not been visiting the site as often as I did in the past I had not spotted you had traded the Octavia for a V60.

The V60 is high on my list to replace the Leon. Got a quote from one of the reputable brokers last week for a T4 Business Edition in white and was stunned how competitive it is compared to similar oposition. The boot is way smaller than the Leon SW but based on the fact we manage when we go on hoilday with the Leon hatch (just) and the V60 has a bigger boot than that (according to my tape and Seat/Volvo) it should be fine.

The only info I am struggling to find is how much space is lost by fitting the space saver option. The local dealers are useless saying basically you don't need a spare but while a space saver is a poor substitute for a full sized wheel its way better than a long wait at the side of the road. Found some photo's on the web which show it raises the boot floor but no figures are available.

Any help/info appreciated.

The best discount I have obtained so far on a T4 SE Nav (with leather) is £7000 bringing to price down to £21538 but they don't do the Business Edition models. At a different broker the T4 SE Nav is just under £23000 but they also do the T4 Business Edition but the discount is lower at c £4500 bringing the price down to to c £18700.

So I can supposedly get a Business Edition for approx £2800 less than the SE Nav which to me looks like way better value. I don't want leather and the Business model also comes with sensible 16" wheels. The only item it lacks which I would like (and its not even an option) is darkened rear glass but that is not the end of the world. Will have to make a mental note about the foot rest.

The Leon estate (or Sport Tourer as Seat call it) would be on my drive in a instant but for a couple of issues. To get the 150 PS model you have to buy the FR trim and that comes with lowered sports suspension, sports seats, !7" wheels none of which I want. The SE trim like my current Leon now only comes with the 125 PS motor which I will not consider.

The Seat Ateca looks tempting but still to see one in the flesh and there appear to be no discounts currently available.

The Octavia Estate also looks tempting but our experience with Skoda dealers in the past has not been good. Add to that the road noise made by the last Octavia Estate we tried and its a poor starting point.

The Focus Titanium 1.5 petrol Estate looks perfect on paper but if the interior is as cramped as the old model the huge discount is pointless.

Lots of looking to do over the next few months.