Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Just bought a used Mondeo (06, 100k miles) from a private seller. It drove absolutely beautifully on the test drive in all respects, and on most of my journey home too. Engine felt really powerful etc. BUT on restarting the car, after taking a short break, it then delivered about a quarter of the power it had had previously. I could barely get it to 50mph and limped the rest of the way home.

This car was SO cheap for the year and condition I knew there had to be something amiss (although the seller was adamant that all was fine and that he just needed cash urgently...) so the purchase was a bit of a punt tbh. Still, I'm going to have words with the seller on the morrow...

But I'm just wondering what might be the problem here. Any ideas?

Edited by cosmicjazzer on 13/08/2011 at 00:44

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - unthrottled

Overboost problem causing limp home mode?

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Interesting! Guess I'll have to get it to a Ford dealer...

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - unthrottled

In fact, it could also be a dodgy MAF or sticking EGR valve. Nothing particularly catastrophic or expensive to fix. Pay the dealer to read the fault codes (there will be at least one!) then go to an indie garage to get it sorted.

The seller might (probably) has had the same symptoms and unnecessarily panicked.

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Thank you so much unthrottled!

Just in case it sheds any further light, I can perhaps describe the fault a little more precisely: The car seemed to respond normally at VERY low revs (ie. barely touching the accelerator) but any attempt to increase revs from that point onwards had literally no effect. If I changed down to lower gear, the revs of course would then be higher and it seemed I could then muster a tiny amount of acceleration.

Does the fact that there was a decent amount of power initially suggest that the turbo cannot be the culprit? (I'm hoping a turbo issue could not give rise to an intermittent problem... )

Anyway, perhaps unthrottled has already said as much as can be said at this point... I will report back once I've been to Ford dealer.

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - unthrottled

I doubt it's a failed turbo. Have a good night's sleep and get the codes read. I don't think you'll get a nasty shock in the morning (although they'll charge plenty for what is a simple code reading job)

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - smed706

hi i run a taxi hire company and have 27 mondeo tdci's and come across this problem quite alot and 9 times out of 10 it is the intercooler pipe at the front of the engine underneath the EGR and when this pipe bursts or splits (very common problem) massive power loss occurs and it will sound like it is hissing heavely under attempted acceration

if it was a blocked or failing EGR there would be excessive black smoke on acceleration does yours do this ????????

hope this helps you

kind regards Neil

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Thanks for that Neil. I didn't see any black smoke but didn't hear any hissing either! The car is now with a Ford dealer who will be investigating the problem on Monday...

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - smed706

ok would you drop me an email when its fixed and let me know what caused it please

kind regards Neil

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - smed706

Ps my email is smed706@googlemail.com

kind regards Neil

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Problem was that egr valve needs replacing. Ford dealer quoted £339 all in for the job. Just wondering if this job is likely to be much less from an indie.... and whether any particular expertise or diagnostic equipment needed to do this?

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - dieselnut

EGR valves can usually be restored to full function by a thorough clean after removal.

So would be considerably cheaper at an indi. No expertise or daignostic equip required to do this.

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Decided to replace just to be certain. Got the new part for £96. Local indie garage will fit for £45.

Thanks for all replies. Am just about to start a new topic with another query related to this car...

Edited by cosmicjazzer on 18/08/2011 at 19:54

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - daveyjp

Order an EGR blanking plate off e-bay and get it fitted when the new valve is fitted - also get the hose checked, splits can be difficult to see as the gunk fills the split.

BTW the Ford quote was a joke - Jag charge half this for fitting an EGR to an X type, it takes about 15 minutes.

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - unthrottled

Order an EGR blanking plate off e-bay and get it fitted when the new valve is fitted

Won't an 06 car recognise that the expected air flow is outside the expected range and trigger a CEL?

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Order an EGR blanking plate off e-bay and get it fitted when the new valve is fitted - also get the hose checked, splits can be difficult to see as the gunk fills the split.

daveyjp: Thanks for reply. Excuse my complete ignorance in these matters... could you tell me which hose you mean? :)

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Oh dear.... egr replaced and no change. Indie garage who did the job think the turbo is faulty but recommend taking to specialist... Thumbs down for wrong diagnosis by Ford....

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - track

On this year vehicle the turbo has an electronic actuator. They get blamed for many a problem but quite often its down to the wastegate being sooted up and very stiff so the actuator cannot close / open it properly. Try taking it off and see if the wastegate moves freely by hand. Usually these throw up a fault code though.

Im having similar issues with a 53 mondeo 130 now. Biggest culprit is usually injectors and its where all my faults point to at the moment. Maybe worth getting yours tested.

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Thanks for that track. Took car back to Ford and LOADS of fault codes appeared! They are still in process of diagnosing the prob. They have ruled out injector problem apparently... they're now thnking that IMV valve might be the culprit but more tests to do.

Edited by cosmicjazzer on 27/08/2011 at 04:06

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - cosmicjazzer

Well THIS problem with the car (there are others!) has now been fully resolved. The culprit was eventually found to be... the MAP sensor. Car flies now! I'm happy it wasn't the turbo!

Mondeo TDCi 130bhp - Ford. Loss of power - highway61ie

had the same problem last week in a 2 litre focus powerdrive .Brought it to the dealer and it took them a couple of days to diagnose a faulty DPF .replaced and cured . Curiously when I went to pick up my car ,another chap was picking up a Mondeo withthe same problem .Symptoms were .engine warning light then after a few Km no power ,foot to the floor but going nowhere .Saves on the speeding tickets though . Hasn't occured since they change the DPF fingers crossed .HW