Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - vostro1015

Hi, hope this is the place to post this question. Basically I need some reliable advice regarding insurance.

Recently driving along main road when another car came straight out of side road without stopping and hit nearside rear of my 51 reg clio 1.5dci. 3 door. Other driver admitted liability both to myself and the police (I called police because he admitted to having a drink although breathalyser at scene read zero). There is a fair bit of damage to my rear quarter panel,slight dent on door and alloy has a small chunk chipped out of rim. Tyre damaged as well although car is still driveable.

I am insured fully comp by Saga who put me onto an outfit called Claimfast as soon as I reported the accident. The repair estimate from claimfast approved repairer is £3370 which is ridiculous. What are my rights regarding this as it was totally the other drivers fault?

My car although 10 years old is was in immaculate condition and has had a lot of money spent on it recently,all new shocks,new wheel bearings all round,new front tyres,cambelt,all new discs and pads etc. I have already made it clear whatever happens I want to retain the car and have it repaired privately if they deem it uneconomical to repair.

Claimfast have already blackmailed me into taking a hire car although I did not really need one - they said if I declined the hire car i would have to pay the £350 accidental damage excess out of any settlement I may receive! I know the car is recorded as a cat D insurance claim although Claimfast have not mentioned this as yet.

I bought it damaged 3 years ago and had it repaired to a high standard for my own use. No doubt they will use this fact to value it at about £500 when the market value of similar age and spec and condition is between £1800 - £2000.

Can anyone advise me what my options are please? This is the first insurance claim I have ever had.

(Edit - Paras put in so that it can be read without losing the will to live!)

Edited by Avant on 09/05/2011 at 23:13

Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - LucyBC

This cses perfectly illustrates the way things are moving now insurers are getting involved in the accident management busienss.

Claimfast are owned and operated by Acromas which is the same group as Saga and the AA. If you are insured with either you are likely to be bundled into their hands as your insurer will be seeking to make money out of the credit repair, the credit hire and any personal injury claim.

In the very short time they have been around we have had to take action against them twice and won on both occasions.

First of all to the policy excess issue. What they appear to be saying is that unless you take the credit hire - from which they make a great deal of money - they will refuse to act to recover your uninsured losses (in this case your policy excess).

This should be a matter of note on its own as it highlights that most legal expenses cover is not really insurance at all.

The purpose of Motor Legal Insurance is to recover your uninsured losses. Claimfast seem to have lost sight of this imperative and seem to be refusing to act if you refuse to take a credit hire - whether you need one or not. The fact is that if you say you do not need a credit hire because you have alternative vehicles then the court may agree with you and hence refuse the claim. The danger in this is that the agreement you sign for the hire may well make you personally liable for the (extortionate) costs of the hire if the other side are not ordered to meet the bill.

If you make the claim not through your own insurers but directly against the insurer of the at-fault third party the policy excess issue should not come into play at all and certainly should not be linked to your taking a credit hire.

I would be interested in hearing more about the circumstances (and from anyone else with a similar experience) via asklucy@honestjohn.co.uk. It may be the case should be referred to the FSA.

In respect of your own vehicle, with a repair estimate of £3000+ and a ten year old car it is likely they will write it off.

It is still your car and hence you do not have to sell the salvage to the insurer (despite what some of them will tell you). You need to make it clear from the outset that you wish to take the car back and they must not dispose of it.

In terms of the value I am afraid that any recent fitted parts or work undertaken will play no part in the valuation but the price should reflect the market value of cars of a similar age, specification and condition. If this is £1800 - £2000 then that is the price you should receive. They may try to talk this down using the Category D classification but you should stick your ground. In these circumstances having a loss adjuster represent your interests may be to your advantage and if necessary I can suggest someone who may be able to help.

Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - vostro1015

Hi,further to my previous post regarding Claimfast and Saga.

On 13th I received a letter from Acromas Insurance stating that their engineer has declared my vehicle uneconomical to repair and their salvage agent (Copart Ltd) would be collecting it asap. Well, since I had already told Claimfast umpteen times I was KEEPING my car whether they decided to write it off or not, I was not happy!

I immediately phoned the number on letter (Acromas total loss dept) and made it clear yet again that I was retaining car. The letter requested original logbook,mot,insurance certificate and service records be forward to them. The guy said don't send originals just get photocopies made if you are keeping car. Which I have not done as yet.

The thing is,during the course of trying to obtain my own repair estimate from an independant bodyshop,I have been advised to ditch the claim through my own insurer and instead claim directly from the other drivers insurance company (Ageas). Would this still be possible at this stage? although as yet nothing has been signed between myself and either Claimfast or my own insurer. Although I did take a Claimfast hire car for one week after they blackmailed me into taking it (see previous post). This was returned to Enterprise on 13th.

How do I go about making a third party claim? I have the other drivers name and address,car registration and his insurance policy number. Should I forward my repair estimate to the other driver or direct to his insurance company?

The estimate from my insurers approved repairer was £3300. The lowest estimate I could find myself was £1600 inc vat for a 'contract repair' which apparently uses second hand parts. As long as car is restored to condition it was in before the collision it makes no difference if parts are second hand or not.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - LucyBC

I advised you that you should be dealing directly with the third party insurer in my previous post.

However dealing with them direct is not for the faint hearted and I may be able to deal with this for you on the basis you pay nothing as any costs are recovered as part of the insurance claim.

Please send your details and a telephone contact number to asklucy@honestjohn.co.uk so I can take this up on your behalf.

Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - vostro1015
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Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - vostro1015
Just a quick update regarding this. I followed your advice and made a third party claim direct to other drivers insurance company Ageas who put me in touch with a company called Gemini Vehicle Solutions who handled the claim. I managed to negotiate a cash in lieu of repairs settlement of £1750 + their engineer told me my car would not be put onto the hpi register. As car was valued at around £2000 payout was quite reasonable.

There is one other quick question you may be able to answer for me. I need to arrange temporary insurance for another vehicle whilst I am repairing the clio. Do I need to declare the third party claim when I obtain an insurance quote?

Thanks for all your help Lucy.
Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - SlidingPillar

Vostro - don't think you'll get any more from Lucy.

All insurance I've taken out has always asked, "any claims/accidents in the last X years". So yes, you would need to declare it.

Approach existing insurer first for short term insurance, they know all your details and may be cheaper as well.

Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - bear123

Hi, hope this is the place to post this question. Basically I need some reliable advice regarding insurance.

Recently driving along main road when another car came straight out of side road without stopping and hit nearside rear of my 51 reg clio 1.5dci. 3 door. Other driver admitted liability both to myself and the police (I called police because he admitted to having a drink although breathalyser at scene read zero). There is a fair bit of damage to my rear quarter panel,slight dent on door and alloy has a small chunk chipped out of rim. Tyre damaged as well although car is still driveable.

I am insured fully comp by Saga who put me onto an outfit called Claimfast as soon as I reported the accident. The repair estimate from claimfast approved repairer is £3370 which is ridiculous. What are my rights regarding this as it was totally the other drivers fault?

My car although 10 years old is was in immaculate condition and has had a lot of money spent on it recently,all new shocks,new wheel bearings all round,new front tyres,cambelt,all new discs and pads etc. I have already made it clear whatever happens I want to retain the car and have it repaired privately if they deem it uneconomical to repair.

Claimfast have already blackmailed me into taking a hire car although I did not really need one - they said if I declined the hire car i would have to pay the £350 accidental damage excess out of any settlement I may receive! I know the car is recorded as a cat D insurance claim although Claimfast have not mentioned this as yet.

I bought it damaged 3 years ago and had it repaired to a high standard for my own use. No doubt they will use this fact to value it at about £500 when the market value of similar age and spec and condition is between £1800 - £2000.

Can anyone advise me what my options are please? This is the first insurance claim I have ever had.

(Edit - Paras put in so that it can be read without losing the will to live!)

Clio 1.5dci - Being shafted by claimfast? - bear123

Firstly if your fully comp it would be your Insurer's approved repairer. You do haveehi the option of using your own repairer but if any problems, your Insurer will not help as they don't have a contract with them. It's the same with most Insurers. If you don't need a credit hire vehicle then don't take one. The statements they get you to sign state that you need the replacement vehicle so signing this not wanting it could cause you problems. Although you are no longer insured with Saga, alot of Insurers have contracts with companies like Claimfast to pass you onto. Alot of the time these companies are regulated by the Association of British Insurers, which means they set the charges these companies can put onto the Third Party Insurer. The ABI is a board of Insurance governors who set out the rules. They created the General Terms of Agreement. You may find it cheaper to go to your own repairer should you have to claim again. If your vehicle was a previous total loss then this will decrease the value of your vehicle should it be involved in an accident. This is up to the Insurers engineers as to how much it is. You can also go to the Third Party Insurer directly for a hire vehicle and if they accept fault they will usually accommodate your needs. Should you ever have any questions about these kind of companies then google ABI, Credit Hire, etc... Hope this helps in future.