Car for bumpy roads - Robot Servant

Hi,

Having recently moved out to the sticks, my city car isn't coping too well with the bumpy potholed roads so I've been looking for a replacement.

I've be looking at various C-Max models, but aren't 100% sold.

Having limited knowledge of what to go for, I don't suppose someone could possibly suggest a few cars I should be looing at please? I'd prefer something not too large (ie not 4x4), but realise a small car isn't going to cope too well!

Many thanks.

Car for bumpy roads - Blue {P}

Citreons are supposed to be pretty good on bumpy roads thanks to their softer suspension, maybe worth a look?

Car for bumpy roads - SteveLee
A "softroader" such as a Honda CRV will give you reasonable fuel economy and will handle the bumps well, as already mentioned big Citroëns (such as the C5) are good over the bumps (no metal springs to fatigue and break) of course the latest (Mk3) C5 can be bought in steel-sprung form so will suffer spring breakage in the way most European cars do.

Generally Japanese manufacturers round the ends of the spring off properly which massively reduces the incidence of spring breakage over rough roads/speed humps. So a Toyota Avensis may be a sensible choice if you are after something comfortable and dependable - if a little boring; 2006 onwards Avensises are particularly softly sprung and are great over rough roads. The petrol models are very fuel efficient, in the real world they will return approximately 40mpg if driven gently. (obviously not the 2.4 litre but I don't think this engine is available in the later cars anyway.)
Car for bumpy roads - MikeTorque

The new 5 door Vauxhall Astra (with non-sports suspension) fitted with 16" steel wheels with tyres 205/60/16 or better still 215/60/16 offer a superb ride. Alternatively if you go for the SRi then have the FlexRide option fitted with either of these tyre sizes and you'll have Adaptive suspension with 3 choices of ride and handling to choose from, Sport, Normal, Touring (comfort), all work brilliantly especially when used with 16" rims.

It's the additional tyre wall height that makes the ride so incredibly comfortable and smooth over rough services and pot holes coupled with the cars overall ability to soak up shocks and bumps.

215/60/16 - provides 129.0 mm tyre height
205/60/16 - provides 123.0 mm tyre height

The 17" rims reduce the tyre wall height which allows more road shocks and noise into the internal cabin, the 16" rims are superior for comfort.

Car for bumpy roads - corax
Generally Japanese manufacturers round the ends of the spring off properly which massively reduces the incidence of spring breakage over rough roads/speed humps. So a Toyota Avensis may be a sensible choice if you are after something comfortable and dependable - if a little boring; 2006 onwards Avensises are particularly softly sprung and are great over rough roads. The petrol models are very fuel efficient, in the real world they will return approximately 40mpg if driven gently. (obviously not the 2.4 litre but I don't think this engine is available in the later cars anyway.)

Very interesting Steve, I have to say I haven't noticed so many spring breakages with Japanese cars. Our 2003 Avensis is pretty firm riding, especially if you're sat in the back. Are the 2006 onwards cars that different?

I know that you drove a Type S Accord recently. I'm looking for one myself, a 2.0 Petrol, but I'm wondering whether to go for 16 or 17 inch alloys, as some people reckon the 17 in wheels can be harsh riding and tramline. How did you find the Type S, bearing in mind this has sports suspension as well?

Car for bumpy roads - SteveLee
Hi Corax,

The Accord type-s was a weird beast in terms of ride quality, firm at lower speeds but remarkably smooth at motorway speeds considering. In a BMW-like way the fact it was bolted together well meant that you don't notice the ride so much due to lack of squeaks and rattles. The car was on 17 inchers. Rear brake discs seemed to corrode easily, I took it to a deserted car park, reversed at high speed and then jumped on the brakes to clean the rust off of them. The 2006 Avensis does feel softer than the original - it's still no Jag though. The type-s is harder riding than the original Avensis at town speeds. I must say I thought it was cracking to drive to the point where I didn't mind the ride quality, a rifle bolt gearchange and sweet steering made it a pleasure to press on in. The traction control system is lousy, and having suspension set up for the twisties (quite a lot of camber) traction off the line in the wet was limited. Also the off/on throttle fuel cut out is very aggressive meaning trickling in traffic using just the throttle can be jerky (an issue shared with many Hondas), a “superchip” remap gets rid of that trait.
Car for bumpy roads - corax

The Accord type-s was a weird beast in terms of ride quality, firm at lower speeds but remarkably smooth at motorway speeds considering.

Thanks Steve, excellent info.

Car for bumpy roads - gfewster

Surely the plural of Avensis is Avensi rather than Avensises?

Car for bumpy roads - Avant

"Surely the plural of Avensis is Avensi rather than Avensises?"

Avenses (third declension)!

Car for bumpy roads - corax
So a Toyota Avensis may be a sensible choice if you are after something comfortable and dependable - if a little boring; 2006 onwards Avensises are particularly softly sprung and are great over rough roads. The petrol models are very fuel efficient, in the real world they will return approximately 40mpg if driven gently. (obviously not the 2.4 litre but I don't think this engine is available in the later cars anyway.)

I've just bought one, a 2007 1.8 petrol in decuma grey and it's an excellent handling/ride compromise, definitely an improvement on the earlier pre 2006 cars - the car grips well and won't roll around corners, very solid and comfortable. It's not a car to be chucked around corners like my previous BMW, but I like it's relaxed nature. It's done 85000 miles so higher than average mileage but that's how I like them, the previous owner having used it to bowl up and down motorways. Certainly the car feels virtually new with no play anywhere, and really feels built to last. Excellent economy too. It always amazes me how heavy these cars look and feel when you shut the heavy door, then they drive with beautifully light controls, and go surprisingly well considering the engine has 129bhp. My old E36 Touring had 170bhp, but although smaller than the Avensis, weighed around 200 kg more, and was very unaerodynamic.

I wanted an Accord but couldn't find the right spec, colour, condition for the right price (they are pricy), so the Avensis came up instead. I don't regret it.

Car for bumpy roads - SteveLee

As I think you've discovered, the 2006 onwards is a much better car chassis-wise. I'm seriously tempted to get an Avensis myself when something worth more than the car itself (tax disc holder?) finally breaks on my old C5. I'm torn between an Avensis and a well looked after Rover 75. I'd like to own a 75 before they get too old to consider as everyday reliable transport - the 75's the best riding car this side of a X300/308 Jag.

Car for bumpy roads - corax

As I think you've discovered, the 2006 onwards is a much better car chassis-wise. I'm seriously tempted to get an Avensis myself when something worth more than the car itself (tax disc holder?) finally breaks on my old C5. I'm torn between an Avensis and a well looked after Rover 75. I'd like to own a 75 before they get too old to consider as everyday reliable transport - the 75's the best riding car this side of a X300/308 Jag.

SteveLee

If you can find a good one, I'd go for the 75. The Avensis is always a car you could buy later - there's plenty of good ones around, they tend to be owned by people who keep up the servicing.

I don't always take notice of surveys, but I did notice that the 75 came 7th out of 100 in the Autoexpress Driver Power Survey last year. Pretty good considering the car stopped being made 5 years ago. They seem to be holding up well. Owners love them. It's a shame that a car with one of the best rides has now gone considering the state of the roads now.

Car for bumpy roads - Happy Blue!

Have a look at an older non-Turbo Subaru Forester. Long suspension travel and balloon tyres makes for a very comfortable ride over bumps.

Car for bumpy roads - madf

I test drove a Citroen C3 Picasso 1.6 90bhp diesel over speed humps. It had the smaller wheels. VERY comfortable..

Pity about the looks.

Car for bumpy roads - bannerman

Try Suzuki SX4 see HJs road test

Car for bumpy roads - jamie745

My Peugeot 406 was one of the most comfortable cars across bumpy roads which ive come across. The Ford Focus i have now is decent enough, much better than a Ka i can tell you, it seems cars with shorter wheelbases give you more of a jerky ride on roads like that.

Probably cant go wrong with French cars as their suspension is more tuned to comfort rather than sporty handling (the 406 is average in the bends at best) rather than something like a BMW which are best on smooth roads with their sporty setup.

Car for bumpy roads - Billy Whizz

We've some very bumpy and potholed roads out our way. My wife recently bust two mildly low-profile tyres one dark night on a new pothole in the company Subaru Legacy (basic model).

But, contrary to popular expectations, our brand new 3-series Touring on rubber band 255/35R18 tyres (but without sport suspension) rides the best out all 4 of our cars, including the 2004 Forester turbo on 215/60R16s. But I do need to watch out for the deepest, sharpest potholes.

The mid-2000s Forester is a most impressive all-rounder that I continue to recommend (except for fuel economy).

Car for bumpy roads - Vincent de Marco

Long suspension travel, you say... Skoda Yeti, huh ?

Car for bumpy roads - Buster Cambelt

Couldn't recommend a Yeti based on my experience of 10,000 miles in one and access to numerous loan cars and demonstrators in that time. On all but billiard table smooth roads the ride is poor, bordering on appalling at times. And everything rattles, a situation worsened by poor road services.

Car for bumpy roads - Vincent de Marco

I see... What would you recommend, then ?