Their are no signs of any body work being done,its a silver car,has a huge history file but high miles of nearly 141k,second owner kept his private plate,he did not sell to the porsche main dealer more likey a bmw one as he brought an alpina bm,and the porsvhe main dealer never put the new plate on and the hpi check does not say either ??????????.
stuart
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"Is it likely that a Porsche main dealer would have touched a dodgy Porsche?"
Tomo,
You have to ask? - these are people dealing in second hand cars.
Seriously though, I saw a pretty little 911 at a dealer with a gap in the history. The underside of the car and the wear on both fromt seats did not support a claimed 48,000 miles!
I could have been wrong - but no comparable example with that mileage looked the same.
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well i could say yes and no to that one,have got a date now for the 3rd plate change hpi didnt give me all the info when i did the online check,but why would someone in the middle of the second owner selling the car and the main dealer getting the car spend a good few thousand quid on wheels and tyres,strange dont you think.
stuart
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Stuart: if it doesn't stack up assume the worst. There are thousands upon thousands made.
As for "Is it likely that a Porsche main dealer would have touched a dodgy Porsche?" - dealers are independent corporate entities that have no connection (usually) with their current manufacturer. When (if) they get the boot its because they have been found wanting. Not that I would in any way doubt any Porsche dealer. An (unconnected) example: about 10 yrs ago, appraising an Audi 80, sold with a warranty from the then Audi dealer, SWMBO asked a simple question: why has this wheel-arch got a white mark below the edge? It looks different to the others. OK, lets open the boot (to humour her of course). When the carpets/boot liner on the near-side were lifted, the rust was quite extensive. The white bit was some sort of filler. A big prang, extremely badly repaired. The salesman was mortified, mostly because I was about to buy the POS! Did they know? I don't think they are stupid:of course they did. They thought a punter would be taken in though. Not a good career move, to be a punter.
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If you are worried about the history-walk,because you will not get any happier about it.The car has done at least 140,000,do you like the condition and price?could you sleep and not worry?Again any doubts,walk.You will torture yourself think of plausible reasons helped by the person selling it,if its going to hurt you,walk.There will be other cars.
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Stuart: if it doesn't stack up assume the worst. There are thousands upon thousands made.
Not quite true, I think. Trying to find the *right* 928 is going to be very difficult and the thousands made doesn't quite translate into a ready selection on the market. There is quite a lot of tat, and some extremely good ones - but they may not be the exact model, colour, or spec that you want. Manual transmission, for example, is as rare as hens teeth in a 928.
The all important thing on one of these is its condition, and that's not necessarily guaranteed by service history alone. As HJ says, the engine is the heart of it - and so are the electrics. Much of the electrics is poorly documented on some models, and some are extremely complicated. Take a look at the Hartech website for further info.
Ian Cook
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" "Is it likely that a Porsche main dealer would have touched a dodgy Porsche?"
Tomo,
You have to ask? - these are people dealing in second hand cars. "
I have to ask. We want to help Stuart, and he must consider that there is a difference between, say, a Lexus dealer concerned with second hand Lexuses (Lexi?), where he and the parent company depend on maintaining the reputation and prestige of the marque, and a "popular" dealer who depends more on turning over whatever he can. Perhaps Porsche rates at the pukkah end of that scale?
Tomo
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I would not try one, by the way. I'd like it!
Tomo
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Lexi - I like that.
The dealer I'm talking about - very well respected. BUT call me a cynic but most dealers will know that a pretty little Porsche in the right colour will move easily. C'os someone will get in and try it, they'll hear a nice engine note - get lot's of admiring glances and wallop!
Suddenly the gap in the history, the fact that she looks like she's lived a bit for a low mileage, the fact that the panels look a bit too clean - all that's gone.
Job done for the dealer, he hasn't misrepresented anything it was all there to see.
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I really like the car,it stands so much above all the other cars i have looked at,it has high miles,but low owners,inside and out the car is excellant looks like a car of much less miles,its stayed in the porsche network all its life the past owner had a main dealer service the car then a specialist,who i have spoken to and praised the car,hpi is clear but i know that as long as a bump is not recorded no one will know about the crash,thanks HJ about the engine advice a friend of mine that knows these cars said it was a good one apart from the miles again,all the pepole i've spoken to say its better to get one thats been driven than one thats sat in a garage coverd in dust most of its life,but its the small gap in the cars life where a new set of wheels got put at the car at great expense to someone,thats the bit that keeps nagging at me in my mind.
stuart
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