yes thermost replace yesterday. no air looks. can feel hcv pulsing, replaced curcit board behind temp control. fulshed matrex out. tested currant at hcv and its droping and riseing as should. hoses warm top and bottom of rad. getting silly now lol.
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Your heater motor`s spinning but its fan blade is loose on shaft or has fallen off?
You have a squirrel/rat/mouse/hedgehog nesting in your blower pipes?
Give up and install a lorry heater?
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blower fan is fine as blowing at full power. like the comment on lorry heater but the fiesta is 12 volt not 24 mate.
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Fair enough,I wont get my mate to fix you up with one of his portable lorry heaters then.
In my garage I have a complete Reliant Robin heater unit which has a manual cable-controlled flow valve.
You`ve tried everything else,chuck your HCV ,connect your pipes up with a manual set-up and away you go,nice and toasty for the winter...who needs modern technology?!
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yes i think your on the right track there. i did wounder what would happen if i dismissed the hcv and joined the pipes. today im going to bypass the oil cooler on a temp basis and see what happens. i have herd this can also cause a problem.
any update on you flexi pipes.
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If you removed the HCV and connected the pipes together with free-flow you will get very hot even with the blower off.That is in effect where I was with mine,due to faulty HCV,when it was last on its wheels.I was driving around with my windows down it was so hot,not much fun at night in the wind&rain even though at the time it was still summer.Will be nice and toasty this winter though!
In the olden days when auto chokes used to play up a lot,you could get a kit to change back to manual and save fuel,improve starting/running etc....maybe if you don`t mind drilling a hole in your bulkhead and dash you could do the same with your HCV?
Still stuck with my brakes,pair 355mm rear flexi hoses not turned up yet.Will probably buy some earlier Fiesta 425mm ones with the securing nut instead of the clip and be done with it.May have to put plastic coil around them to prevent pipes` contact with rear shock leg where they come out of the wheel cylinders,what with them being longer.
As for the steel ones I was lazy and bought front&rear cupro-nickel pipes already made up(£23 incl p&p) from very helpful bloke off that well known on-line auction site....going there now for a gander to see what flexis are listed.
Can`t wait to get out there under the car on the driveway in that cold wind again;still at least the sun`s out every so often
When I`ve finished the brakes then there`s the rot at rear of o/s outer sill at the join to sort out....before it can have its medical!
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sounds like you have your hands full as well. but im sure you will get there. as for mine well, yesterday i flushed it throu again. rad, matrex, block, oil cooler, all flowing well. joined the pipes at hcv to by pass it and guess what, luke warm only. screwing my head now. yes i do remember the early auto choke probs lol and the maunal kit you could buy.
my thoughts now keep going back to the water pump, perhaps not giving enough pressure to curculate but then i belive i would have had a over heating problem and i havent.
think you better dig out that reliant heater lol.
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No wheels yet so I`m faced with using public transport tomorrow for the first time since I caught the No 9 bus when I lived up north in Oldham donkey`s years ago.
Maybe you`re onto something with your water-pump.Thermal expansion of coolant alone may allow some circulation but not enough to create flow through matrix if pump is dodgy.If temp gauge remains stable then water must be rising through your rad and being drawn back around the engine.
Must be a Ford mechanic out there with the answer.....probably on one of those pay-for-advice sites.
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well you maybe on the bus today but i bet its warmer than my fiesta fridge. mind you i do feel for you standing at the bus stop.
let me know if you have any luck if not i will help you do an intence search.
mail order on me pump but should be fitting wednesday, will keep you updated. good luck
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Chickened out;the thought of sitting on a bus an hour each way didn`t appeal so cancelled my appointment, rescheduled to next week by which time I have to be on the road.Weather had better improve as I`ll be out in the elements bleeding the brakes if I can find some rear hoses.
Should have got the planning permission in for the garage build last year.
Thought I`d struck gold when found pair of Goodridges listed by private seller on e**y,but ended up being 340mm not the 355mm I need...Grrrrrrrrr!
Hope your new pump was a good price and does the trick for you on wednesday.
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haha can see you like the bus as much as i do, i think i would have done the same. must be a good size garage as if i remember when i dont mine it had to be inspected because it was 3ft over the limit of not needing planing.
just a thought and im sure you will laugh but what about using a flexi hose joiner in the middle and getting 2 pair of shorter lenght.
i belive goodridge do these for around £4.00 and would at least get you back on the road.
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You know,it`s funny you should mention the joiner,excellent suggestion,I had toyed with the idea of fitting a small union into the wheel cylinder to extend length.Just waiting to hear back about some 350mm length flexis but I reckon that I should save my money and find a couple of unions.I will try Goodridge as you suggested.Am I tight or what?
I was hoping to put in for a double garage but don`t want to fork out nearly £300 just to be told only a single is permitted within the restrictions that apply.I will have to try and find out before I part with the money I don`t have! Unfortunately I don`t have "connections"........
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water pump has arrived, got from ebxy. new £24.50p with one year warrenty so happy at that , or will be once its on. not doing it today mind as i know its a right pain of a job and i could be in the frame of mind to kick it today lol.
nar ya not tight just, just not throwing ya money away for someone else to get rich, good knows its hard enough to get in the first place.
yer planning do like to strip you of your money, if you paid anyone else for somethink and were not happy you would be coverd by law but as we know they are a law unto there self.
perhaps go and have a surf down on the beach.
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You`ll need the heating working after a blast on the surfboard!Must be a tough lot where you come from?Last time I went in the sea during Sept was years ago in Devon.Saw just one person in the sea,a chap in his eighties happily swimming to&fro,so told the crowd I was with that it can`t be that bad,I`ll go for a dip.Difficult to act cool when your teeth are chattering.....was colder than the icy plunge-pool at Center Parcs and that`s manned in case anyone gets into "difficulties".
Job done,or are you still throwing spanners around the garage?What are those w/pumps like to get at on the td Fiesta?Remember someone removing the engine to get at the w/pump on a 1990 Escort diesel van...not sure if they had to or just did it for fun?!
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well a wet suit sometimes stops the teeth chattering lol but other parts do tend to shrivel ha ha ha .
anyway 8 hour job today doing the pump. yes you have to remove both engine mounts and half the car to get to it and then its still a complete pig. would not advise anyone to takle it unless extremly confidant, easier to remove the engine by far.
anyway im glad i done it as as i go a right kick in the teeth as no change lol. and doubt i would do anouther one.
totaly lost now. as im sure you are. might just set the fxxxer alight, that will warm it up ha ha .
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What does your temperature gauge show?
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no temp gauge fitted to this model . runs cool to normal going by the water pipes.
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HEY PRESTO. HOT AIR AT LAST. CHANGED PUMP LAST NIGHT AND THOUGH IT HAD NOT DONE THE JOB BUT HOT AIR THIS MORNING ENOUGH TO TAN AN ASIAN.
STILL DONT RECOMMEND PEOPLE DOING A PUMP CHANGE UNLESS THEY ARE VERY VERY COMPITANT. ON THAT NOTE IF ANYONE IS THINKING OF CHANGING THERE FIESTA WATER PUMP ON A DIESEL FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME FOR ANY ADVICE AS THE HAYNES MANUAL IS AS GOOD AS TOILET ROOL THAT HAS BEEN USED.
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Hurrah!Sorted,well done,just in time for the first frost?
Yesterday fitted some new brake hoses at last.Got some suitable flexis next-day post from very good seller on e**y.They have loads of bargain brake components etc for many older vehicles..... deserve a plug if it`s allowed?
Know what you mean about certain manuals,are they really written by mechanics...or just mechanics who work on brand new cars where nothing`s seized up?
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Hi this thread had got me worried now, am in teh process of sorting out all my lower arms and the heating problem is my next job, I have a 98 1.25 zetec ghia, is it going to be as hard to sort as yours was? As in if it needs a new pump do I have to almost take the engine out to fit it?
Edited by Trox on 17/11/2010 at 02:56
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I would not worry too much.
The 'heater control valve' is a weak link in the 'Fiesta' and the 'Ka', they both use the same part, which is notorious for failing.
If your temperature gauge is behaving normally, ie the engine is reaching normal operating temperature in a reasonable amount of time, then it is unlikely to be the 'thermostat'.
Water Pump failure would cause more problems than just the heater not working, does the car overheat based on fan operation or temperature gauge readings?
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the car works perfectly apart from the heater blowing cold air, I constantly check the temp guage as I have had head gasket failures failures before, so I really dont think it is that, it would be nice to know that it is likeley the HCV as I presume that is a relatively cheap job.
Cheers :)
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The part can be sourced on 'ebay' fairly cheaply, as I said the part is prone to failure.
All it is, is a small plastic housing with 4 pipe connections, with a solenoid inside, that controls the amount of hot engine coolant that passes into the heater matrix.
For reasons known only to these valves, they just decide to pack in on their own!
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Hi mate I have the same exact problem. After engine has worked for some time I just get warm air for 5 seconds and that's it.
Sometime ago I had also replaced the inside mesh as it had punctured.
My 1994 diesel fiesta has no hcv that I can see. I have only 2 pipes one going directly in the inside mesh with the other coming directly out.
Is this pump thing connected to the timing belt?
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A 1994 should have the old type air-blend heater,not a water valve type.
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ok jc what could be the problem then?
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I might have found what was the problem in my case. My model is 1994 and has no hot water control valve. Mine simply blends hot/cold air inside the car itself.
Some time back a mechanic was stupid enough to replace my faulty thermostat (was getting stuck therefore engine heating up) with a petrol version.
the 1.8 diesel thermostat should be rated 85-89 deg start opening, fully open at 102.
Since for petrol rating is lower, the thermostat that was installed was opening much before the 85deg and therefore water kept circulating around the radiator and engine was not heating enough, plus since the thermostat is open much of the pump pressure was being dissipated inside the radiator pipe and not much left for the inside heater unit.
I am having it replaced now with a proper ORIGINAL one that I bought myslef. I'll reply back if it does/doesn't do the trick.
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hi there how did u change the pump cause i have a fiesta 1.8td and its being quite a b***** to gt the pump in with the tension wheel do you have any advise please many thanks
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