Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - MorrisOx

I've posted a couple of times about what to replace my unloved Mondeo TDCi with, wondering about everything from a Honda Accord to a Volvo V50 or V70.

My budget is based on the part ex for the 55 plate Mondeo (roughtly £4.2k) and probably up to £1500 cash. So you can see I'm looking at something older, probably high mileage.

I've driven an 05 V50 1.8 with only 43k miles on and was seriously impressed - quiet, refined, decent performance, excellent comfort. One significant downside: it's noticeably smaller than my Mondeo and I've got two growing kids. So I'm dithering - was seriously impressed by the drive, but short of buying a top box I'm worried about the space issue.

Alternative is an older, higher mileage V70 D5 (petrols are too thirsty). I've got no feel for older high miles cars because I've never had one. Anyone out there who can tell me what they're like, what the sensible option is?

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - DP

I've never owned a V70, but I did own an S60 which is essentially an identical car from the B pillars forwards. Mileage on these things is nothing to worry about as long as the car has been well maintained. I took my S60 to 153,000 miles and it never broke down, failed to start, or even threatened to give me grief. Taking scheduled servicing and brakes/tyres out of the equation, the only non original parts on it were the front wishbones, the clutch, the alternator and one of the engine mounts. On its 8th birthday it was still on its original battery and exhaust. Everything worked, the seats still looked like new, and it still cruised in near silence. If I were a betting man, I would have bet a significant sum of money on the car breezing 200,000 miles with no more than one or two trivial problems. It felt fit as a fiddle at 153k.

Volvo dealership labour rates and original parts prices can be eyewatering (one of the main dealer services the previous owner had done on mine approached a grand, most cracked 500 quid), but there are many good independent Volvo specialists around the country who can service and repair them at very reasonable rates. For parts, the likes of GSF, Euro Car Parts and several online based Volvo specialist suppliers offer good quality, reputable branded, EU manufactured aftermarket parts at very reasonable prices. If you follow this route, I wouldn't expect the car to dent your wallet significantly more for routine service/upkeep items than your current Mondeo.

Edited by DP on 01/04/2010 at 00:36

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - MorrisOx

Cheers, DP - that's helpful.

Like I say, the V50 was a seriously impressive drive and its age and fuel economy would make it a straightforward choice, but for the size issue.

The V70 D5 I've seen advertised is an 02 manual box SE with 139k on the clock for £4850. Has FSH and the cambelt has been done.

I'm used to a Mondeo which [according to its fuel computer] does 59-63mpg on its short daily commute, so I'm wondering what a V70 D5 manual might be like in comparison?

The Mondeo does around 7-8k miles a year so has an annual service and MoT which usually ends up costing £170-200. Is the Volvo likely to land me with serious bills for serious parts?

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - trfamu

I think you'll find a big difference in costs between running the Mondeo and a Volvo V70.

I've had a V70 for the last 3 years and my costs have been almost double that of my previous Mondeo. I used main dealers for both.

Volvo 20K Service £307

Volvo 36K Service £409

Volvo 54K service £285

Volvo 72K Service £498

Hope that helps. Also note depreciation tends to be higher on the Volvo too because they generally cost more.

I'll be switching back to a Mondeo once I have enjoyed another couple of years as a Volvo driver.

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - idle_chatterer

Can I ask why your Mondeo is unloved - has it been troublesome or is it brand image ? I ran a Mondeo Estate for 4 years and changed it (to my shame) for an Audi A4 Avant which was most emphatically not a better car in my experience.

Whilst my ego felt better my head (and wallet) always regretted this.

I actually opted back in to a company car scheme and I've twice considered the V70 and rejected it. It is no bigger than the Mondeo (in fact I'd suggest it's smaller inside), doesn't ride and handle as well and IMHO is not any better built. The D5 sounds nice and gave me 40-45mpg in a manual, in fact one of the reasons the V70 has been discounted by me was the poor CO2 figures (I wouldn't consider a 2.0D let alone the1.6D - it's a heavy car).

The V50 is basically a Focus so will always be tight on space. Personally I'd stick with the Mondy until you can afford a Merc or a BMW or maybe an A6 Avant.

As an after thought - what about the Mazda 6 or Jag X-Type Estates ? Cheaper than other 'quality' brands but a better image on ostensibly the same (excellent) Mondeo platform ?

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - vs60

I've owned a 2001 S60 2.0T for the last two years and have always had it maintained at my local independant (not a Volvo specialist) and they've never given me any problems.

The only problem that I've had (apart from the general service items) is leaky alloy wheels.

The last service at (in October last year at 82k miles) cost me £189.89. I have an oil and filter change every 6 months at a cost of about £48.

The timing belt (incl. tensioner, idler and oil/filter change) was done at 8 years (78k miles) at a cost of £299.75

So I don't think it's an expensive car to maintain. Reliable, comfortable and I'd own another Volvo without a second thought.

Thanks, Chris.

Edited by vs60 on 01/04/2010 at 21:41

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - MorrisOx

The Mondeo is unloved because it hasn't lived up to its early promise. The first year was great, with a memorable cruise-controlled-in-sixth journey up to Scotland and good MPG. Since then...loads of trim niggles/rattles, noticeable wear inside, paint flaking off the alloys, bodywork which just isn't wearing its age well and an unsolved brake problem which has cost £400 and rising. It feels like it's going to turn tatty within a couple of years, so I've decided the sensible thing to do was bail out while it still had £4-4.5k left in it.

The V50 I looked at was slightly older than the Mondeo, had a slightly lower mileage, but looked and felt younger and far more solid. The one concern is space, hence me gazing longingly at a V70.

Having moved house last year and committed to an extension this year, it could be three or four years before I gather a useful chunk of cash to go towards a car...by which time dear old Mondy will be several bills down the line and worth a lot less.

The V50 ain't perfect (though it might do with a top box for holidays), but I wonder whether a V70 - indeed, any older, high miles car - will cost more to fettle. Have also looked for Accords or Saab 9-3. Did look at a Mazda but it's right up there with the Avensis in the charisma stakes and there aren't many around. Ditto X-Type estates, unless you're willing to swallow V6 fuel bills. I also looked at an 02 BMW 525d with 90k miles on the clock, but it had gone by the time I got to the dealer.

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - JohnM{P}

Bear in mind that HJ has reported that the S40/V50 can also suffer from the same ESP weakness as the VAG cars (see HJ's V70 Review)

Volvo V70 - Volvo dithering - Avant

It's worth bearing in mind, MO, that you could get a newer Skoda Octavia for your budget than you could a V70 or Accord. It has a lot more room than a V50 and won't cost any more for something with similar age and mileage.

As DP and others have found, buying a high-miler can be well worth while provided that it's got a full service history and, as far as you can tell, seems to have been looked after.