See below
www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/item.htm?id=6408
Must be quite a logisitcs exercise getting 1100 cars from a factory, onto a boat and over to here and on to a dealer? Any guesses how many times each individual car will be started and moved in that process? (obviously all on cold engines!)
I am guessing:
factory to pound
pound to transporter
transporter to pound
pound to ship
ship to pound
pound to transporter
transporter to other pound?
pound to transporter
transporter to dealer
Am I missing more? Wonder how many people are used to load and unload the boat? Maybe GordonBennett can shed some light on this?
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Even more reason to buy British? as if you needed one!
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looks like the korean manufacturers are cleaning up the market in these tough times.
Where I live, of the new 58 and 09 plate cars these are mostly of Kia picanto's, ceed's and Hyundai i10's and i20's
Very few fords on a 58 or 09 plate
Funny enough I have not seen one Kia soul on the road yet
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I can remember when Korean cars wern't that highly rated, I'm thinking of the Pony and Cortina sized Stella - had never heard of Kia back then.
But now, well - they're certainly 'on the ball' now ok.
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I can remember when Korean cars wern't that highly rated
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>>>>>>>>>they arent
they are just cheap cars for the masses
the new lada if you like
or an eyeful for the lorry driver and his wife as sir alan omnce said
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they arentthey are just cheap cars for the masses the new lada if you like
I don't think you could put the Hyundai Coupe in the "Lada" bracket, mate. Mine's well screwed together, reliable, comfortable, goes stops and handles; furthermore it doesn't seem to have the rust problems associated with many cars which are considered superior to it. I read all the reviews before I bought, and few had anything bad to say about it; final thing that swayed me was an old friend of mine, who rarely has anything good to say about Oriental machinery, rated it the best car he'd ever owned.
I confess that I once had the same view as yourself, but my advice is not to knock 'em till you've tried one.
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>>they are just cheap cars for the masses>>
You're a bit behind the times.
Which? Car magazine describes the Kia Cee'd as "seriously impressive, well built, spacious and comfortable" and concludes that "initial reliability looks promising, suggesting Kia's seven-year warranty confidence in the car is not misplaced.
The Which? refers, of course, to the independent consumer organisation's publication.
Edited by Stuartli on 26/06/2009 at 12:15
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Very few fords on a 58 or 09 plate
I'm suddenly seeing lots of the new Fiesta. There are lot of i10's & i20's about too though, which is surprising here (a little east of Chester) as there isn't a Hyundai dealer in the immediate area.
Edited by Bill Payer on 25/06/2009 at 15:13
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You can add another three or four times at the factory and probably the same at the dealer.
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You can add another three or four times at the factory and probably the same at the dealer.
Yep. And the movement on and off the transporters and the ship are done with some aggression.
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Just substitute "airfield" for "ship" and add park for a year or so, and you have a locally-produced car.
Also substitute "Japanese" for "Korean" and we could be in the Bachroom of the '70s
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they arent they are just cheap cars for the masses the new lada if you like <<
Amazing ... I thought the iwhatever it is, was a 'state of the art' job & up to European standards!
Also substitute "Japanese" for "Korean" and we could be in the Bachroom of the '70s <<
Well blow me down with a wet woodbine, I honestly thought Hyundai had 'come of age',
I'd better go back to my dwarf Dahliars :)
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aye but there was no t'internet in the 70's and everything was grey.
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always wondered how they planned the unloading of these cars...do they have minibuses that collect all the drivers in the pound and drive them onto the ship and then each takes a car off and meets again at the minibus...otherwise I'd imagine there's alot of walking......
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i think they use a transmorgerd from starship enterprise
they wind all the drivers up ,give them sixpence for lunch ,issue them with trade plates and tell them not to come back till mission hi-undie accomplished ;-)
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Thats exactly it UKBeefy, a minibus onto the ship, drive the car off to the pound and then meet up back at the bus for the next batch - it was in a feature in the Mail on Sunday, istr.
Apparently in th old days the dizzy cap was removed and the cars were manoevered on the starter motor within the ship - not sure if I imagined that though.
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When I started in shipping in 1961 in London as a lowly water clerk it was the end of the car export boom to mainly the US and Canada. There were hardly any large specialized car carriers so normal single or tween deck vesseles were fitted with extra decks made of Acrow scaffolding and planks! The cars were loaded by cradles under the wheels and then pushed into position and lashed by ropes tightened by the nasty sounding ?spanish windlass? . Seem to remember the SMMT recommended a 9 inch clearance between vehicles. To work out how many cars we could load we had loads of little brass blocks at 1:200 scale inscribed on the back with e.g. ?Vauxhall Victor 14'0? x 5'6? ? and fitted them onto a 1:200 plan of the vessel! All very amateur I suppose but it seemed to work.
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everything was grey...
No.
It was brown.
More shades than you could shake a stick at, but brown.
Might have been called Sienna, Bracken, Antelope, Russet brown.
Even the "red" shades were brown too - damask red, carmine red, tartan red... the list goes on.
I'll get my (blue) coat on the way out.
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Here's one for those that missed out? on the 80's ~
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCadWHUaPz4
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And then there were the greens - Avocado, Pampas, etc. but they should all have been called Algae.
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I remember years ago we were waiting for the ferry (Dover or Folkestone - can't remember which) and there was a line of newly imported Chrysler Horizons that had to be moved from one end of the dock to the other. We watched them do it.
No prizes for guessing the way they were moved.
Answer: High rev start, red line it, change gear, stamp on the brakes to stop. No wonder so many Horizon engines had premature deaths!
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aye but there was no t'internet in the 70's and everything was grey.
No, everything was brown.
Edit: I see I was beaten to it! I must read to the end of the thread before posting.
Edited by nick on 26/06/2009 at 19:49
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Bobby G's OP was pretty well on the ball for car movements, but there may be a few more compound movements at all points in between, going to PDI workshops to have various things fettled and fitted for example.
I don't suppose 30 or so starts is bad, the new stop/start cars will perform thousands in their life span
The cars will be competently driven...import centres and compounds are well run and any idiot drivers would be out the door pronto, not least with H&S in place.
Damage is avoided at all costs, seen and unseen.
I suppose many of us still remember brand new cars being trade plated to dealerships, cars that were often driven flat out.
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slightly different tack - a road was resurfaced at the local MB dealership last week - no more than 5 feet from rows of shiny new motors - and some customers cars being serviced. Do you think any of those cars were moved or covered whilst the navvies did their thing ?
'course not , it was a hot day and I imagine the cars were getting caked - no thought at all there - pure idiots , and their labour charge is £125 p.h + VAT
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