03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - speedy mondeo
Just purchased a 2003 FORD MONDEO 2.0TDCi 130 LX 5dr [6] Diesel Hatchback, which is a great car and the aircon and heating sysytem are working, however, there is no air coming out of the front vents you aim at the body. The others appear to be working fine. Also when you turn the car on before starting the engine there is an electric noise which appears to be trying to regulate something, it also happens when you turn the car off, is this normal?

Many thanks in advance

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 22/06/2009 at 13:38

03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - redviper
Does your car have electronic air distribution? IE instead of turning knobs that operate a series of pulleys, you simply press buttons or the knob controls the distribution electronically.

It could be that the servo that will operate the flap has failed or not engaging and the noise you hear is that servo in question.
03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - speedy mondeo
I'ts the electronic system. How do I sort it?
03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - redviper
Well I would have to say that it is checked, to see if it is at fault and then replaced.

Im sorry I could not be more help, as i dont know much about your type of car
03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - Saltrampen
Before You pay a garage to look at it, set it so only Air is directed to front vents, then set the fan to a high speed and set temp to max, leave for a minute, then set to minimum and leave for a minute. If still nothing, then if light is on, maybe a garage job .

There is some info on Mondeo owners site, which suggests could be a broken flap.
www.fordmondeo.org/forum/showtopic.php?tid/809539/



03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - speedy mondeo
Hi,

Tried what you suggested to no avail. Could you recommend a gagrage and how much am I looking at?
03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - Saltrampen
You need a good Mondeo specialist in your area ideally, if you post what area you are in, someone on the site might know of a good place.
If you feel competent, you could buy a Haynes manual and do it yourself, but if it involves taking the facia off, then unless you get it exactly right you can end up snapping plastic fasteners etc. I have yet to tackle the facia on a Mondeo, but having done it on other cars, it is normally a pain and probably 2 - 4 hours labour to take one off and put one back and fit any parts. IF the facia has to come off, I would guess at £150 - £250. If it doesn't then will be cheaper. Hopefully someone who as had it done might post on this site.
03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - speedy mondeo
Cheers,
I live in Salford, how much for Haynes manual and clips (better buy a lot hey) and where from. Has anyone took the air flow units out is it quite a simple job or trickier than anticipated?

SQ

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 28/06/2009 at 13:16

03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - Saltrampen
If no-one posts, I am sure you can find a Mondeo specialist in that area (Yellow pages) etc.
Haynes manuals on sell in places like Halfords or online for £17 - £20, there is a 2000 - 2003 manual and a 2003 - 2007 manual, but if yours has the LCD display for heater and 3 yellow LED buttons for air flow it is the same as the 07 model.

Mondeo site has a link to removing air control unit:
www.fordmondeo.org/wiki/index.php/Centre_Console_R...3

- Only gives info on first part, doesn't tell you where to find airflaps.

Also manual might allow to identify fuses and check them.
03 2.0TDCi Air flow fault, front air vents - Honest Mike
I have same fault on my 53 2.0TDCi Mondeo Estate

Its a major headache!
I have stripped out the entire dash,steering column and a major horizontal strut after establishing that the servo's were OK.
I now know the reason for the failure. The servo that drives the flap contolling the front air vents should only drive so far and then stop. You can get at the flap by unfastening all the necessary clips including dropping the bottom section away from the top.
The plastic housing will then split vertically with care far enough to pull the flap out.
When I finally got the flap out, I found that the servo motor had at some time travelled further than it should breaking the drive shaft off the flap so that it was the stuck in that position. The sound you can hear is (i think) a calibration process where the control electronics drives each flap to its end stop in each direction and counts the number of stepper motor steps it took to get there. It then knows how far it has to travel to open and close (and set mid position) each flap. However, I only know this because after I managed to re-build the broken shaft, I put the flap back in and saw the electronics perform this manouvre. When I then selected the various positions for the air flow I saw the the cause of the original fault. The flap reached its end stop and the motor carried on driving again breaking my carefully crafted repair. I also bought a second hand air con box with all flaps and servo's for £45 (£600 new not including fitting) only to find that the rubber seals on the flap I needed were perished making it unuseable, BUT, I also noticed that at the point where my flap had broken, there were signs of a stress fracture starting to appear.

Conclusion - Ford have problem with this system that is probably quite common. It appears that the electronics can fail causing damage to the mechanical assembly.

I emailed ford to complain - answer as follows
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Dear Mr Blower

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If you have an issue which you would like to make us aware of then please
contact our Customer Relationship Centre by telephone on 0845 841 1111, where a
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I haven't phoned them yet as I only re-fitted the repaired flap yesterday.

Not sure what response I will get but the more people that contact them the better. I would even consider taking them to a small claims court if necessary. I think this is a design fault. The system should fail safe i.e. should not cause secondary damage.

I hope your problem turns out to be far simpler but it sounds exactly like mine. Its easy to check the servo's by disconnecting the cables from the two without the white plastic gear and swapping them over. If the fault is still the same its not the servo's. Be very careful with the suspect one (top right of the three) it ame out ok but when I tried to re-fit it it pushed the broken shaft inside the box. I would like to hear how you get on.