Never had, or seen, one of these before.
Got a reminder from the DVLA about the 24th May that my Sorn/Road Tax was due to expire and I should make arrangements to renew.
This came in ' postcard ' form, not in an envelope and was available for anyone to read.
Strangely, I had already renewed, online, about a week earlier and the disc was already on the windscreen !
Anybody else had one...and why ?
Ted
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Mine came in an envelope, about 21 days before renewal date and had a huge 16 figure Ref No + for use when using the on-line or telephone facility. I think the postcard, readable by all, is probably not a very good idea - I take OP's point
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VOSA MAKE MOT PLEDGE
Inspectorate formally agrees its commitments to MOT stations for the first time
the next one is dvla to the public
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Yes AS, mine came as usual, with the big number and in envelope. This is what I taxed it on. The post card thing came later, almost a ' final demand ' sort of thing.
Strange no-one else on here seems to have seen one.
Ted
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post card?
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Not like a seaside post-card but same principle, open to anyone to read, owners address, message and car reg, also some other DVLA propaganda about taxing on line, I think.
Threw it away at the time as I had taxed car....wish I hadn't now.
Ted
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must be new then,never seen one
dont like the idea details are open to prying eyes though
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Most postage I receive has my address on it. My car is standing about 10 ft from my front door with number plates clearly visible. Not sure there is really a security issue here...?
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think of the bigger picture
look at the scams perpetuated daily
lets just say with your name,your adress, your registration number and the chassis number in the car window,i could apply for things that i shouldnt be able to
ok i have to get round the fact the dvla send you a letter to confirm you no longer own the vehicle but im sure theres ways round such a minor problem as that
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So who is going to perpetrate the scam ? - you plated car is outside your gaff - you can see the VIN. The postie knows where you live and will know your name from your subscription to Playboy so what more can he learn from the postcard from the DVLA ?
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ive absolutelty no idea but some people in the bad big world would rather look for a scam than work 9 while 5
maybe someone will post in 12 months time how they were skanked?
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hang on
i want to say now ive never bought playboy
might have looked
but never bought :-)
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I wasn't worried about any security implications. I was more interested why it was issued, reminding me when I had already paid up. ( 0r actually reminding me at all when I still had a few days left on the old one ).
Have to wait 'til next one comes.
Ted
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The postcard could be intercepted and the ref. no. noted and then your car could be SORNed online by a miscreant and then you will get ANPRd and fined / seized. How did we let the machines take over?
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And why would they do that?
Does your mail normally get intercepted by people with a personal grudge against you?
Surely this would only be a problem if such a bizzare event were to occur AND you didn't tax it yourself?
I'm putting on my tin foil hat as I type...
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I've just renewed my car tax - the reminder came in the usual way i.e. in an envelope containing a form which included the 16 digit number and details of various ways to pay.
It also listed my tax as being £180 even though it was £185 last year, but when I renewed on-line I had to fork out £190...:-(
Full credit to the DVLA though - I did the on-line renewal last Tuesday afternoon and the tax disk arrived on Thursday.
But seems a bit strange that if you pay by credit card, you have to add £2.50. If I spent that much at Tesco, for example, it wouldn't demand such a charge (presumably to cover its fee to the CC company) and, what's more, would give me ClubCard points as well.....:-)
Before anyone points out that there are around 32m cars on the roads and that figure times £2.50 is a large sum, Tesco serves millions more customers than that number over the course of a year.
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Yeah but Tesco assume that a lot of people will pay by plastic and factor it into their profit margins. They most likely view cash customers as a bonus and credit card customers as the norm.
DVLA view cash(or debit card) customers as the norm and Credit Card customers as a costly nuisance that they have only recently had to put up with.
I work for a utility company and we still don't accept all types of Credit Card, we used to discourage payment via that means as it isn't good practice to borrow money to pay essential utilities. Also we don't want to incur extra charges which ultimately get passed on!
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>>They most likely view cash customers as a bonus>>
Unlikely, as the more cash there is on the premises the greater the problem with securing and removing it safely.
It's one of the reasons that those with debit cards can obtain cash as well as pay for purchases - it ensures the level of cash available is substantially reduced and its introduction some years back was a brilliant security measure for large stores and supermarkets.
I use one of Tesco's busiest Extra outlets in the UK and the turnover daily is quite staggering, so such security benefits must prove a real bonus.
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and the funny thing is technically the money is worth next to nothing it's all a giant group fantasy we all live by you only have to look at the sums the government made up out of nothing for the banks which was in the hundreds of thousands for each person in the uk.
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Tesco serves millions .. >>
The merchants who do not charge a fee do so by recovering the CC merchant fee cost in their overall profit margin.
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The postcard could be intercepted and the ref. no. noted and then your car could be SORNed online by a miscreant .. .. >>
Now you've got me paranoid about receiving anything in the post.
Bank & Credit card statements, Utility bills, driving licences, passports, road tax reminders in brown envelopes, tax returns, dividend cheques, premium bond prizes, ....
I had better cover up my house number, road name sign, car number plate, etc. in case someone comes along to read them, having seen them covered up in google street view.
snip It is too late worry to stop George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm visions coming true.
Edited by Pugugly on 04/06/2009 at 01:30
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Yes AS mine came as usual with the big number and in envelope. This is what I taxed it on. The post card thing came later almost a ' final demand ' sort of thing. Strange no-one else on here seems to have seen one. Ted
We had one yesterday, again for a vehicle that has already been taxed. Odd
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The only thing which occurs to me is that I'd prefer that my postie didn't find out, from seeing the registration number on the card, what an old car I've got. At the moment he doesn't know because my car is always in the garage when he calls.
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1400ted. Beware of displaying the new tax disc that early as you were not displaying a valid tax disc prior to 1st June. Regards Peter
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1400ted. Beware of displaying the new tax disc that early as you were not displaying a valid tax disc prior to 1st June. Regards Peter
I'm not too sure about this nowdays.
There is no "from" date on a tax disc.
You can only get one in advance if it is a renewal of a current tax disc.
So a June disc, displayed in May should be fine.
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I'd like it if they'd actually send me my tax disc after i buy it, bought it may 15th still not here i phoned them up yesterday and they say a new one should be here soon, in mean time i'm driving round with an out fo date one.
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Anybody else had one... >>
Mine has just been delivered. It is a postcard with no other details apart from my name and address. There is no car make, registration number, reference number or any other identifying detail for the car concerned. So some scare stories above were completely off the mark.
...and why ? >>
Don't know. Seems a waste of public money, since the first renewal form received about 3 weeks ago was quite adequate.
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People would complain if they got caught and Nanny State hadn't reminded them... (bear in mind MOT threads here!)
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People would complain if they got caught and Nanny State hadn't reminded them... (bear in mind MOT threads here!) >>
;-) A reminder for a reminder. Where will it end?
Seriously though, I wonder what/who decided that it was a good idea to send these postcards as a 2nd reminder. There is one sentence on there which is probably the news [although not news to this forum as it has been mentioned on previous threads here] that they are trying to convey to those who are not yet aware:
"If you pay for your vehicle tax before the current tax disc runs out, then you can legally drive or keep your vehicle on the road while displaying the tax disc that has run out, for up to five working days."
[Note it says working days, not calendar days].
I shall try to post a link to an image of the postcard later.
Edited by jbif on 04/06/2009 at 15:12
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