I've got a split rear bumper, scuffed paint on the front one, a dent in a door and a scratch on the rear wing. Every one was done in a car park while I was away from the vehicle and not one person left a note or hung around to own up. On that basis, should I be idiotic enough to cause damage to a perfectly visible stationary vehicle I'm afraid my attitide would be to say, "Why should I cough up when nobody else ever does?" and drive off.
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Not a very kind attitude RR. I'm sure we've all had, at some point in our motoring careers, a bump or two with stationary objects. Perhaps the reason you 'attract' all these bumps & scratches is a karmic response to your own intention.
Max67, report the incident, get a Police incident number - always better to have these things logged. You seem to have been unlucky in bumping the car of aggressive, bullying idiot who has no right to talk or interact with anyone except you (without intimidation) - & cetainly not your children.
One thing that I would not tolerate in any way ,shape or form, is anyone (and I mean anyone) attempting to get at me via a family member - they wouldn't be leaving the scene under their own power. Do report this for your own peace of mind.
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I agree with woodbines. Straight to the police, and mention that he's been speaking to your kids.
Clearly a very small and rather sad little man with an inferiority complex if he approaches children rather than have a face to face conversation with an adult. It probably tells you all you need to know.
I would lay it on thick to the police about approaching your kids and being concerned for their safety. I'm sure they'll send someone round to have a word with him.
The important thing is, you are completely in the right here, legally and morally.
Edited by DP on 25/09/2008 at 15:57
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well i gave a twenty quid note in a shop last night, was given change from a tenner, and when i complained was given an agressive load of nonsense, and had my phone taken from me when i went to take a photo of the member of staff
ive had lots of idiots drive into the back of me and just had them shrug their shoulders and written off the repair myself
idiot who caused accident last year was nice enough at the time and gave his details and insurance, but has subsequently denied it to his insurance company
what did he actually do, complain and raise his voice? talking loudly and complaining is not against the law
sounds like you deserve some complaint
so you gave your details great, doesnt at all mean you will own up to your insurance company in this day and age
i intervened to stop some thugs, they nicked my car the following night, support from police to decent citizen, er none
and of course all plod bother with these days is 5 mph over the limit
the country is going to the dogs, get used to it
you tolerate these idiots in power you deserve all you get
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Regtwe - you said
"the country is going to the dogs, get used to it
you tolerate these idiots in power you deserve all you get"
I will try to find the quote, exactly, but roughly speaking it said:-
There are 2000 people in positions of real power in this country, there are 2 million people carrying out their edicts and dim regulations, and there are 50 million of us putting up with the carp AND paying their salaries! Remind you of anywhere?
I stand liable for correction of the exact figures but you get the general drift?
Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 25/09/2008 at 17:12
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An interesting rant - not sure what it's got to do with the OP though...
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because i have sympathy with the guy going round and complaining loudly
its not as if he has actually done anything physical
admitting the offence and leaving your details does not mean you are innocent
staggers belief
its very hard to put up with the constant barrage of carp nowadays a bit of loud complaint is hardly the biggest problem we have to deal with
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Sympathy? Why?
Accidents happen. The OP has fessed up, apologised and done everything by the book. Why the aggrieved party then needs to drive by, talk to his kids and do more loud complaining is beyond me. What's the point? What does it solve? Does it make the insurance claim go quicker or more smoothly? NO. Mr. Angry man may just end up having the police round for his troubles. Fat lot of good complaining loudly did him then.
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why do you think im a troll?
check out my other posts
so youre not happy with this guys actions, fair enough
getting the police round is a total waste of time since
i) he has done nothing wrong
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ii) the police do sweet fanny adams even in extreme cases of violence so hoping they are going to somehow help is naive in the extreme
and yes i nearly decked the guy who took my 20 quid note last night, i didnt, but i understand the self control needed to let the pink fluffy dice get away with it, im getting so cheesed off with folk taking the mickey out of ordinary decent folk AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT CONSTANTLY
so yea i understand a little loud complaining, im getting to that point myself
accident happen yes, but normally there is a party at fault
idiots
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 25/09/2008 at 19:59
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accident happen yes but normally there is a party at fault
Yes retgwte. But we can all nerf another car when parking. To leave a note admitting liability and offering, in effect, to make good, is the decent thing to do. To go round and yell at someone who has done that seems the height of unpleasant idiocy, unless of course they have thought better of it and try to welsh. What imaginable good could it do? What purpose is served by being unpleasant to someone who is trying to do the right thing?
Damn nasty shops they have round you. I wouldn't go in that one again.
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Without my Mod's hat on.
The reaction of the owner of the damaged car sums up exactly what's wrong with certain elements of soceity, full of mean spirited, nasty little weasels, and exactly why decent, honest people have stopped or are reluctant to do the "right thing".
Stoop to conquer - sort the repair out either by cash or insurance and forget about it, Karma will be along shortly to sort out the little idiot.
In my day to day work I come across people who are on the face of it "normal" who have profoundly at odds ways of handling situations, we've bred a nation of ill-mannered carphounds who lack the social skills that allow them to deal with things that happen to them.
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why do you think im a troll?
Because I didn't think anyone could seriously be putting forward the views you expressed.
Forgive me: obviously I was wrong.
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i have sympathy with the guy going round and complaining loudly
Why, in this situation does he need to 'go around complaining loudly'? From the information given, the OP has been honest and decent by leaving their details with the damaged car.
Yes the OP is responsible for the damage, but they say they have admitted it and are therefore willing to put it right.
In this situation the other party getting aggressive is totally unnecessary and THAT is an example of this country going to the dogs, IMO.
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why? he doesnt need a reason
yea so its probably not good manners, but threatening the police and getting all high and mighty is a lot of old tosh
he may have had a bad day
the nhs may be letting his father die for lack of simple treatment
someone may have pranged his car last month, admitted it at the time and been nice as nice can be but susequently denied it to their insurance
his wife may have been beaten up in front of witnesses but the police refused to do anything
there are a whole bunch of reasons he was grumpy
so grumpy people let off steam and complain loudly, i tell you what thats still a lot better than being one of the millions who regularly prang cars at the supermarket cos they are so carp at driving
i think youve all lost your sense of perspective
and to pug im afraid the polite calm and friendly ways of dealing with things tends to lead to you being treated v badly nowadays, im not defending it, i try to be as reasonable as i can myself even under extreme provocation BUT acting like little naive bumkins who phone the police at stuff like this is laughable - for one thing it proves you dont get out much and you dont see the real police priorities out there
and yes we are raising generations in carp schools who know no better BUT there is no reason to suspect this guy was any of the sort
hey scratch my car i may well complain and shout at you, phone the police they will laugh at you, get a life you lot
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...get a life you lot...
Small accident - aggressive response - by a poster to a motoring forum.
Edited by ifithelps on 25/09/2008 at 19:42
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just adding a bit of balance, in a totally non aggressive way
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What a completely unsympathetic point of view, I can hardly believe it's for real. Well, we create our own world I suppose & perceive it through that prism.
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He may not be a troll as such woodbines but he isn't averse to a bit of barracuda fishing from a motor-boat using a spinner....
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not really
folk who damage cars, admit it, say sorry, then tell their insurance company they didnt do it create this vibe im afraid
its not unsympathtic, its pragmatic, realism, and based on an understanding of how the other guy feels
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I agree with the majority here, OP doing the right thing, i would be very grateful to find a note with details on my car in the same circumstances, and would make my appreciation known.
Aggressive twerp syndrome seems to be spreading far too quickly.
A lifetime ago my first wife pranged another car on a roundabout, how she described it to me was obvious she was at fault, i called round to see the other driver to offer to pay for his damage, he was so pleasantly surprised, he told me to forget it and we shook hands and parted.....a fast vanishing breed called gentleman.
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. Perhaps the reason you 'attract' all these bumps & scratches is a karmic response to your own intention.
that's brilliant! may i borrow that phrase please woodbines, I'm sure that'll come in handy at some point! ;-)
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