3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - HarveyHumphries
Hello all.

I'm looking to get shot of my 120K 51-plate Mondeo estate (2.0 Ghia X auto) before something expensive goes wrong, and have been thinking (largely because they seem stupidly cheap, and the Mondeo left me feeling slightly shortchanged in the oomph department) about a 3.2 V6 auto Vectra estate. I've seen 04/05 ones going for £4,500.

I've also been pondering 2.0T/3.0 petrol Laguna Initiale tourers (reliability apparently much better since the 2005 facelift) and Jaguar X-Type estates (2.5/3 petrol). Also like the idea of a Subaru Legacy 3.0, but they look a bit 90s.

We only do about 7-8K a year, so I'm hoping fuel cost won't be too much of an issue. I just get the feeling that it's quite a good time to buy a big petrol-engined car if you don't do too many miles - on the basis that their used prices have collapsed.

Vectra C reliability from what I've read seems pretty good - particularly for this engine and the Toyota-engineered auto box. Does that tally with anyone's experience? I have to say the Mondeo has been excellent on that score, and having had old Volvo and Merc estates before I'm never going back to "premium marque" service/repair costs again (hence why I'm not quite so keen on the X-Type).

Insurance would be up two or three groups from the Mondeo, and the tax would be more. I'm prepared to pay that differential in exchange for right-foot satisfaction.

Is it a stupidly impractical choice? Are big-engined auto Vectras as fun to drive as the performance figures imply?

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 24/09/2008 at 01:35

Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - midlifecrisis
I've driven many, many miles in a 3.2 Vectra (in a Police role and a manual) and they are a great car. They are generally rock solid. They were one of the most reliable cars on the fleet and are great to drive. ( But are thirsty when driven hard)

They are very cheap at the moment as well. Check out www.Vectra-C.com. Some good examples pop up for sale on there.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Mapmaker
>>something expensive goes wrong,

Surely not! Your car is probably worth £800, so is worth driving until something expensive DOES go wrong at which point you throw it away.

Your new car is far more likely to have something expensive go wrong on which you will have to spend the money.

If you need to justify the purchase to yourself in those terms, then all well and good. But don't feel you have to justify it to us thus.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - cheddar
Surely not! Your car is probably worth £800 >>


Reckon three times that at least, a good Mondeo estate will sell easily, and the 2.0 auto boxes are not trouble free so it might be a good time to sell. The Vectra is certainly VFM, the 3.2 V6 is a great engine (expensive belt changes !) though I have had much better service from Ford dealers than Vauxhall and the Mondeo chassis is sharper.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Alby Back
I really like my Signum 2.2 petrol Design. It was also remarkably cheap. Can't really fault it. Nice and smooth, reasonably powerful engine. Well appointed with plenty of toys. Astonishingly economical too. It is though, just a car to me.

I have to admit though to a deeper relationship with my older, tattier, high mileage Mondeo Ghia X diesel estate. I have been offered a good price for it but can't quite seem to let it go yet. An odd car to have an emotional attachment to I'll be the first to admit. All I can say is that it just fits me like a favourite pair of careworn shoes or jeans which your wife wishes you would throw out.

Funny things, cars.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - barchettaman
Vectra 2.0 turbo estate with a BRS remap could be an option - 210BHP.
Looking at the Signum version at the moment (but don't tell Mrs Barchetta yet).
As others have mentioned, the vectra-c.co.uk forum is a useful resource.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - midlifecrisis
As others have mentioned the vectra-c.co.uk forum is a useful resource.


And the moderators are quite nice too!! :)
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Alby Back
Can recommend the Signum Barchettaman. See above. I compare mine to a latterday Cav SRi. Quite a hard car if you know what I mean, whereas the Mondeo has more of a comforting / benevolent sort of feeling about it. A bit like your favourite Auntie as opposed to your slightly tough guy mate. Both handy to know in different ways.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Pugugly
And the moderators are quite nice too!! :)

:-x
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - midlifecrisis
And the moderators are quite nice too!! :)
:-x


I think you're a close second ;)
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Pugugly
Bet they wouldn't post a kiss though :-)
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - smokie
I have a 3.2 Vectra hatch - '04 with about 63k miles. It has the auto gearbox, which when you knock the lever to the left becomes a semi-auto. Mine is the Elite, and I suppose I'm surprised at just how "firm" the ride is.

As said above, it;s a guzzler when you push it. At 145+ the mpg doesn't bear thinking about (in Germany) - but it reached that speed very readily, and can stop fairly quick too. I'd hoped to hit the max (book says 155) but ran out of clear & safe road. (btw the speed debate is elsewhere!)

The MFD is a bit optimistic in that it usually shows somewhere around 30mpg, mostly motorway driving, but brimming it shows more like 28mpg overall.

I understand values have dropped like a stone mainly due to the high road tax in 2010 (there's still a chance this could get turned over though), and although £410 or whatever it wil be sounds high, you'd pay something anyway, so the premium for a bit of decent performance isn't too bad.

Although I wish I still had the barge-like but oh-so-comfy-and-predictable Omega MV6, the 3.2 is a really quick drive, and can be the source of a lot of fun, in the right conditions. I preferred rear wheel drive, and sometimes the 3.2 gets very light at the front end if you power off a roundabout too enthusiastically!!

Cambelt is at 80k, and I thought I was told it was 2 hours, which isn't vastly expensive (is it?)

However I had to replace the power steering motor in mine and (had I not got some assistance from Vx) the cost with labour was something over £700.

Otherwise it's been reliable even though somewhat neglected (well, a service is overdue). Funnily enough, last week I had the hots to change it and was looking at the 2.2 diesel Mondeos, which are pretty nippy for oil burners. A diesel-driving mate who has travelled in mine said I would miss the performance of mine (even though most of the time I don't really use it), so I am veering back to keeping it as I've already taken a large hit on depreciation.

I wouldn't go out of my way to recommend the car to anyone car hunting, not because it isn't good, but because it's not everyone's cup of tea. But I have nothing bad to say about it, so as you are already thinking of one, go for it!
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - HarveyHumphries
Thanks for the input everyone. Much appreciated. Good to hear I'm (probably) not making a stupid mistake.

I'll take a look at the vectra-c site - sounds useful.

My Mondeo... in theory it's worth more than 2,000, but thanks to the, um, named driver it's liberally decorated in dinks and scrapes, so very probably isn't. Full main-dealer history, though...

I will miss it - still feels pretty tight, and is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned (nb - this is saying very little). An alternator, a couple of bulbs and six tyres in four years... the only big problem was down to the Ford dealer stripping the thread off the sump plug (their handling of this episode means I am unlikely to look back on blue oval service with fond nostalgia).

Those mpg figures for your 3.2 are actually pretty good, smokie - the Mondeo averages about 25 (though that's mainly down to a short daily commute).

Looking forward to getting one now - do they come up at auction a lot?
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - cheddar
>> Cambelt is at 80k and I thought I was told it was 2 hours which
isn't vastly expensive (is it?)


Not saying you are wrong, it may have changed, though my 2.5 V6 Vectra (same basic engine) was 60k miles and was a £600 plus job at the Vaux dealer, must be more than 2 hours even if they have made it more accessable.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - smokie
I'm probably wrong! it was in recently for MOT and I'm sure the guy said 80k though...
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - cheddar
Thought I would Google it, you are right re 80k though it seems that earlier is recomended:

forum.vectra-c.com/showthread.php?t=40934

Edited by cheddar on 23/09/2008 at 22:50

Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Alby Back
To drift vaguely back on to your topic Harvey, have you had a look at any V6 Mondeo estates as well ? Saw one recently with the 2.5 engine and all the toys, not very old and low mileage for about £5k.
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - HarveyHumphries
Thanks, fellow Humph. Aside from a rather childish allergy to buying the same car twice, from the figures the Mondeo 2.5 didn't look to have the requisite incremental grunt - at 10.4 secs 0-60 it's only a second quicker than my 2.0, and you get a rather paltry 25bhp extra.

I do like Mondeos, but I like under 8 seconds and 208bhp rather more. Of course, there IS the 3.0 V6 Mondeo (weirdly, that's 2 insurance groups higher than the 3.2 Vectra...)
Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - Dynamic Dave
Thought I would Google it you are right re 80k though it seems that earlier is recomended:


Yep, official recommendation is every 80,000 / 8 yrs.

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Vectra 3.2 V6 estate - a daft choice? - smokie
Never bothering getting one done early again - last time was the wife's Focus, got it done 20k miles early and the mechanic (not Ford) didn't change the tensioner. It collapsed just a few hundred miles after the change = quite expensive and very inconvenient

Thanks for confirming 80k though. And this has remidned me to book a 60k service (late!)