Looking online at Mytyres, Kwik Fit, National etc., there are lots of brands of budget tyres that I have never heard of all between the £40 and £50 (inc fitting) price range.
195 60 15 H is what I am after and to go on a rear axle.
What do you recommend please?
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-1 replies? That's impressive!!
Why would you choose a budget tyre when you can buy much higher quality rubber from Hankook or Kumho (as fitted to 101 makes of car by the manufacturers) for only about 10% more?
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Have alook on ebay you will get a good set of tyres for £100
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Hi Tron,
A budget tyre is a budget tyre. They're great as a cheap, legal tyre for your car but that's all. You're not going to get great mileage out of them but if you just want to get back on the road and all you want is a budget, then go for the cheapest one you can find.
Adam
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Try these people, used them many times, you won't go wrong with Vreds or Toyos or Avons.
Vred made in Holland usually, Avons usually made in England.
tinyurl.com/5usx78
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Tiny URL link is not working for me - been playing up for a while now GB would you post name of company please so I can Google it?
Thanks to all for your replies - keep 'em coming though as I am still looking!
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Gord's link was to the following site:
www.camskill.co.uk/
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Thats strange Tron, never mind.
www.camskill.co.uk
You'll have to sort out fitting locally though.
Edit...thanks Adam, i'm getting slow and past it..;)
Edited by gordonbennet on 26/08/2008 at 13:49
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Either that or I'm poking my nose in where it's not needed! ;)
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Either that or I'm poking my nose in where it's not needed! ;)
Not at all, some of the car compounds i go to bring my cars to me, instead of this old chap stumbling along their load lanes to fetch his own, i'd like to think they do this cos i am such a nice bloke, but i reckon its more likely they don't want me collapsing in a dying heap and cluttering their place up.
I'll start getting worried when kids offer me seats on the bus...won't hold me breath mind.
..;)
Just a thought Tron, a local tyre place to me (good indy, not part of a chain) will usually meet those camskill prices and just charge their usual fitting fee, could be worth a visit if you've got a decent place locally.
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Either that or I'm poking my nose in where it's not needed! ;)
talking of which - welcome back A
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>>talking of which - welcome back A
Thanks RF! You'll be annoyed with me in no time. ;)
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>>talking of which - welcome back A Thanks RF! You'll be annoyed with me in no time. ;)
Welcome back, Adamski. Where have you been?
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snipquote!Welcome back Adamski. Where have you been?
Aha, I know Adam jacked it in a year or so ago though I havent been around much this year myself so I didnt know Adam hadn't also.
Haven't heard much from RF over the last few weeks though!
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 27/08/2008 at 11:26
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Heeey! Snaily and Big C!
Thanks! All we need now is NoWheels to come along and we'll be all set!
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I recently had to change my tyres, and I always go for a budget brand. Any my local tyre outfit changed my front tyres to NEXEN ones. They seems OK and are fairy cumfy and quiet and for 84 pound all in inc fitting well impressed. Googling NEXEN yields some good reviews.
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Tiny URL link is not working for me
You aren't running Zone Alarm's toolbar by chance?
If so, then Zonealarm is seeing tinyurl as spyware.
Explained ome time ago in a previous comp related thread:-
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=60643&...e
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=60643&...e
btw, ZA's toolbar was found to be slowing down my pc, so I uninstalled it.
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I'm running Maxis on the front of my golf (205 65 16 I think). at £40 / corner they are just approaching 22K, and there is plenty of life left in them!
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Why go budget when you can get known brand for much the same money?
www.roadtyres.com/195-60-15-H.asp
Sorry, haven't found how to make a link.
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Never, NEVER, ever buy budget tyres. The contact patch is tiny in comparison to the size of the car and it's the only thing keeping you on the road.
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Thanks to all - sorted & fitted.
Had a real issue with National tyres - lets just say I would not use or recomment them to anyone ever again.
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C'mon Tron, you can't just leave it like that keeping us in suspenders, pleasant as that may be on a Saturday night..;)
We need to know what you bought, and we need updates when they're bedded in.
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Hi GB & Peeps,
I do apologise for not updating sooner - I went and as originally planned for today, fishing for a few hours this evening. I didn't catch out though - just good to be bank side (as I have not been for months) throwing lures in to the water and seeing my terrier doing his thing - killing rats. He's very good at it too.
Tyre procured was a Riken Maystorm 2TL @ £42.46 and was from ATS.
Wheel balance was £5.32 and Nitrogen fill was £1.49 with vat all came to £55.
Only driven 30 or so miles on it so far (20 on motorway) and I have to say it feels ok.
I have a good 170 miles to travel tomorrow and Thursday another 160 mile journey so I will know by then if I have anything negative to say about the tyre itself.
Good thing about ATS that I liked is they also inspect your vehicle and just give you an advisory notice - no heavy sales pitch involved at all. So it is all down to you if you decide to heed the info given and do anything about it.
The workshop was immaculate too.
Edited by Tron on 26/08/2008 at 22:23
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>>throwing lures in to the water and seeing my terrier doing his thing - killingrats. He's very good at it too.
Hmmm, I have a cat that does that!!
Tyre procured was a Riken Maystorm 2TL @ £42.46 and was from ATS.
Michelins aren't they? Probably decent enough tyres.
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>>>Michelins aren't they? Probably decent enough tyres.
They don't rebadge Rolls Royce to Tata.
If they were Michelins, why call them Riken?
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For another few quid you could have bought some decent tyres, Conti Contact 2 for £65 for instance, a much much better tyre.
I hope you are not driving behind me on a wet road if sudden braking is required.
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Oohhhh get her!!!!
I hope you are not driving behind me on a wet road if sudden braking is required.
And I hope you are not behind me in the wet if they are good tyres!
Riken test: tiny.cc/NjhV3
Conti Contact 2 test: tiny.cc/P0A63
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That 4 for wet grip/braking is a German mark where 1=A, 2=B, 3=C, 4=D, 5=E and 6=F.
To get a 4 in a review like that is very poor indeed.
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To get a 4 in a review like that is very poor indeed.
Yep, I too did wonder why Tron was happy about that.
As they state "Rate Performance:
1: Top marks for tyre performance in this category.
6: Tyre performance is unacceptable in this category. "
www.tyretest.com/pkw_sommerreifen/continental/spor...l
Reviews Continental SportContact 2
Average based on 319 completed reviews
Grip under wet conditions Score 2.51
compare that with the review linked by Tron
www.tyretest.com/pkw_sommerreifen/riken/maystorm/i...l
Reviews Riken Maystorm
Average based on 1 completed reviews
Grip under wet conditions Score 4.00
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Have you looked at National Tyre and Autocare - they're doing certain sizes of Avon and Barum (owned by Continental) 'buy one get one free'.
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I've often thought about buying tyres on t'interweb, but how much is it to get them fitted and balanced and are tyre fitting shops happy to do it when you are not buying from them?
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"Have you looked at National Tyre and Autocare - they're doing certain sizes of Avon and Barum (owned by Continental) 'buy one get one free'. "
They will still be many pounds dearer than most otherplaces
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Hancook and Kumho are fine though IMO the best value are Falken, they are considered very much a premium tyre in many countries including the US, Japan and Germany though can be got at very good prices here.
I am just about to have 2 Falken FK452 205/50-17 fitted at under £70 each where as Contis etc are well over £100.
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Morning Peeps,
All I wanted and had to do was fit a stop gap cheap tyre until pay day....
I have 3 x Pirelli P6000's with the one Riken on the rear axle currently fitted to my vehicle.
I have been using the P6000's since seeing them fitted to a Formula Ford I drove around Donington. The P6000's worked there so well I have fitted them to my cars since!
The Rikan is on the nearside rear because I know the Pirelli's will 'easily' out perform it under braking.
The Rikan will be replaced by a P6000 by the end of this month but before I do replace it - I will rotate the wheel to the front (having tested it on the rear first) and brake test it as I want to know what the Rikan can actually do.
Edited by Tron on 27/08/2008 at 10:42
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I wouldn't worry about it Tron. Of course there may be some measureable difference in its "on the limit" performance but you are clearly quite an aware driver and are highly unlikely to be troubled by that.
I would think there are a vast majority of vehicles out there with far worse set ups due in no small part to neglected tyre pressures.
Keep the tyre and spend the money on fuel !
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I'm currently looking for tyres. My local fitter can do them for the same price as on line suppliers who arrange fitting with local companies.
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>>The Rikan will be replaced by a P6000 by the end of this month but before I do replace it -
Why waste money on a temporary tyre for a few days' use? Use the spare!
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I wish I could have used the spare! It is right on the TWI's at 1.7mm and is now showing signs of perishing (small cracks) otherwise I would have done this yesterday - I will run the Rikan too down to 1.7mm and then move it across to the spare.
Car is up for MOT 2/9 and I have two long motorway journies to make this week. Hence needing a replacement tyre so quickly.
The spare is (just) sufficient to get me off a motorway etc., and to a repair or replacement if (please no!) needed.
Damage to the tyre I had to replace was a 1cm long deep cut (6mm of tread left too) down to and making the ply clearly visible - just asking for a blow out and at any speed that is.
Can't even fit it onto spare :( as I will not take the chance it would hold.
Better safe than sorry eh?
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I've often thought about buying tyres on t'interweb but how much is it to get them fitted and balanced and are tyre fitting shops happy
If you check out mytyres site, they have a list of fitting centres that you can search with your post code.
If you see how much they are charging then with a bit of searching you may find the tyres you want considerably cheaper elsewhere, but still use the aforesaid centre.
Its also worth ringing those same centres for a supply and fit price anyway, when they realise you have researched what you want and are specific, they do come up trumps very often.
Generally 10 to 15 quid a tyre to fit and balance, depends if you know someone.
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Well, just to let those know that asked - the Rikan is spot on.
Front or rear axle - it holds just as well as the P6000's in the wet or dry. No sqeeling, no sliding, no loss of grip on cornering and it leaves a clear 'water dry' line behind the vehicle.
Performs just as well under braking too.
Very happy with it indeed!
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AutoExpress (I think?) did some reviews on the cheaper tyres such as Kumho in the last few years. Some of them are brilliant, others not far off the top of the range tyres but with a huge saving. Replaced my Michellin Energy 3A's with Marshall KH35 and never looked back myself.
Unfortunately as with many things in the UK, people will pay for branding reassurance rather than look up the alternatives.
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New boot seems good then Tron, wonder when the weather cools if you'll notice any difference.
Its quite a minefield now this tyre game, was a time when there were only half a dozen to choose from, and when i was a tyre lad, only half a dozen sizes too.
Certainly you can't say that all far eastern tyres will be rubbish, equally though you still need to do your research and not just assume that as Kumho's get good reports that all will be as good.
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Some budget tyres are good and some premium brands are rubbish and you're just paying for pit girls, advertising, branding and sponsorship and all of the corporate infrastructure that goes with it.
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That's the same as with any branded goods. Look into "premium" Philips vs "cheap" Samsung TVs for instance.
I'd never go above the minor brands such as Kumho for a typical ordinary hatchback, but then I'd never go below that level either because of the low cost difference.
Edited by Pugugly on 31/08/2008 at 21:19
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I'd never go above the minor brands such as Kumho for a typical ordinary hatchback but then I'd never go below that level either because of the low cost difference.
Well it would appear that Nissan certainly do not consider Kumho as a minor brand else they would hardly deploy them as in :-.
tinyurl.com/6q44sq
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I fully realise that -- it was I who mentioned Hankook and Kumho in the first place.
The reference to "minor brand" was one purely of perception.
Still, as I say when you can buy a budget tyre for say £30 for a typical small family hatch, and £35 for the Hankook/Kumho which is within a hair's breadth of being just as good as a £90 Continental or Michelin, what's the point in spending more, or less than that £35?
Edited by Pugugly on 31/08/2008 at 22:24
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Some BMWs also use Kumho's too.
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And you're obviously not Manchester United fans - they are "platinum sponsors" for the next for years - not cheapskates then.
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AutoExpress this week did a comparison of tyres. This time 17" wheels and the test car was a Golf GTi. For stopping distances the cheapest type took 5/10m longer in the dry/wet respectively. In an emergency 10m in the wet equals two car lengths at least!
I once had Avon's on a Passat company car - they seemed okay driving wise and lasted a lot longer than all the others fitted to that car. And make in the UK (?).
Not sure if you need to go for a premium brand but you do not need to go for the cheapest - I would not risk that with only 4 patches of rubber between you and a problem. Also some cheaper brands associated with the premium ones too although the AutoExpress test proved that they were not all benefiting from the parent company's knowledge.
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rtj70,
I don't suppose you could provide a link to that test, i recieved the automated email from auto express, but the tyre test link didn't work.
Thanks.
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If it's not working on their website then I probably cannot help. I actually get it in the post every week, as in "I buy it" ;-)
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it in the post every week as in "I buy it" ;-)
Apologies, i somehow presumed you had linked to the article, thankyou anyway.
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From a 2007 report. Golf GTi 225-45-17 size - same as A3 which is why I was looking.
Goodyear Eagle F1
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
Contisport 3
Potenza RE-050A
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Kumho KU31
Dunlop Sport Maxx
Yokohama S driver
Top score 96, bottom score 82.
This was a 10 page report over a series of tests covering all types of motoring.
I went for Vredesteins (Ultrac, not Ultrac Sessanta) to replace the factory fit Pirellis as I've had them before and had no problems. I could tell this morning I had new rubber on the front. I have to enter an NSL road from a standing start and today it was a damp surface - no traction flashing, wihch wasn't the case last week with front Pirellis at 2.5mm.
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Hello Smokescreen.
Could I ask you how much you paid for these Marshalls?
I need four new tyres for my 52 Mondeo TDCI and I was quoted £240.00 plus £20.00 for tracking (205x55x16).
I was also quoted £280.00 (incl. of tracking) for a set of Dayton 210's which are apparently made by Firestone.
For the same price, I could get four Dunlop SP2000's so I'm not sure what to do - never know what to believe with these garages as I think they'll recommend anything for a quick sale!
Anyone else bought/heard of Marshalls and Daytons?
Cheers all - your help is much appreciated!
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Camskill have 4 Kumho kh21 205 55 16s delivered for around £170, should be max another £40 for fitting and you have a decent set of tyres for around £210.
Tyre-shopper can get you 4 Barum Bravuris fitted for around the same, Barum are a decent 'mid-range' brand.
Never heard of Daytons, Marshalls are OK, but if you can get the SP2000s for around £250, tracking being about £20-30, sounds reasonable, try haggling for free tracking, managed it in the past when forking out for 4 tyres.
Cheers
CBG
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>>4 Kumho ... and you have a decent set of tyres for around £210.
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I certainly like my Kumhos. they seem very quiet to me.
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>>Never heard of Daytons,
Nor had I but from the web...."Bridgestone has upgraded its Dayton range of car tyres"
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Thanks for your help too, Henry!
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Many thanks CBG!
As it was, my hand was forced... got a puncture so managed to get it to the nearest tyre place, which is where I was quoted for the Dayton's. I have 4 new ones on - all seems ok but only done 500 miles on them. They have a lifetime guarantee so we'll see... maybe they'll turn out to be very good tyres - I'll add a review on here once I've done a few more miles!
Thanks again - you were very helpful!
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Hi, I paid £50 per corner late last year, fitted, for the Marshall (aka Kumho) KH35s. Had them for a good 9 months.
This particular model was supposed to be poor in the aquaplanning department, but I'm yet to have a problem with them, though I am mindful when the roads are that wet. Much quieter than my Michellin Energy 3as. Will be buying again.
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It always surprises me and worries me that the supposed champions for the British motorist (the AA and RAC) do not appear to publish tyre tests and recommendations.
The German organisation, ADAC, do this and score expensive, mid-range and budget tyres for both summer and winter tyres.
Mods: Please delete this link if you feel inappropriate but here is a link to ADACs test of 195/65 VR 15 tyres tinyurl.com/3jeu9a
That was the closest to the OPs tyre size they had available for summer tyres which are the equivalent of all year tyres in the UK. Vredestein appear to do well.
Edited by gmac on 15/10/2008 at 21:44
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It always surprises me and worries me that the supposed champions for the British motorist (the AA and RAC) do not appear to publish tyre tests and recommendations.
I think they used to, back in the days of the AA's Drive magazine, which was full of in-depth road tests, reviews and background articles. But such things cost money, and were probably deemed not "core business" by their beancounters...
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