Hi all
A collegue told me today about her other halfs car that has a very nice set of alloys
the last few weeks there have been a spate of attempted and succesfull alloy wheel thefts in the area
However
This car is kept in a residental street, and it turned out a month proir to the above that 1 or 2 wheel nuts where missing of the one wheel, now as they where placed on properly by my collegues other half (also my mate) its apperent that someone attempted to remove them and must have been disturbed for whatever reason
It was only the other day when my collegues dad was admiring them he noticed that one wheel had missing nuts when questioned about this my friend was adamant that they where on properly and of course went to inspect and they where missing.
I know they you should check your wheels on a reguler basis, but it wasnt that noticble they where gone only on a close examination but what really upsets me is that some narrowmined people dont relise of the dangers just leaving one or two nuts in a wheel can cause, although i dont condone it but taking the whole wheel would not cause a death, to a inncocent party.
(Sorry to Rant)
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If the people who try to steal alloy wheels gave a damn for anyone's safety or well-being they wouldn't go around interfering with other people's cars rlz.
They aren't just idiots. They are genuinely nasty idiots who ought to do a few months' human shield work in Helmand Province to make amends.
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agreed, its just a sad state of affairs, where peoples property cant be left alone, and common sense are not used.
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Could be that they are simply after the wheel bolts, they can cost well over a fiver each, nicking four from each wheel and leaving the locking nut, and of course wheel, behind would net 80 quid in wheel bolts.
The courts would probably look at it the same as nicking a wiper arm though should really consider the danger element.
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Even worse are the idiots who go round stealing drain grates for the scrap value.
The one in the road in front of our house was stolen last week - and it's just after a blind bend. If a cyclist or motorbike had gone down it, I dread to think of what might have happened.
The council have put a bolard in and on it for now, apparently they have a replacement type that has no scap value.
MVP
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And if they survive, they should be brought home and made to replace the removed wheel nuts with their teeth.
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If the people who try to steal alloy wheels gave a damn for anyone's safety or well-being they wouldn't go around interfering with other people's cars rlz.
Well said Lud. I'm generally very liberal in my views, including those on crime and punishment - but occasionally I have moments where I think about the mindset which leads to the smallest of crimes (small in a relative sense) such as burglary perhaps.
When you think of those peoples complette disregard for the feelings and wellbeing, what other way is there to describe them than sociopathic? And that leads to the thought that they don't deserve to exist in society, and that leads to ridiculously harsh ideas on punishment.
I just can't get my head round how people can perform these crimes knowing how much they're hurting others. Does it not occur to them? Or do they honestly not care a jot for the wellbeing of anyone else?
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Conventional wisdom BB is that they are emotionally deprived and have become callous through being treated in a heartless or cruel manner themselves. This can happen of course but I am afraid a sort of benign, indulgent neglect and no schooling to speak of can have much the same effect given that we are basically savages who need some sort of apprenticeship to become socialised.
I am afraid the attack on censorship of films and TV, which I have always favoured (the attack I mean not the censorship), has had bad effects too. The amount of relatively depraved and worthless, but superficially exciting, material put out on mainstream TV is depressing although on reflection not surprising. Violent and immoral films and TV are thrilling even to well brought up adolescents, and may have quite a malign influence on youths with no meaningful adult supervision.
Edited by Lud on 18/08/2008 at 17:06
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>>That leads to the thought that they don't deserve to exist in society, and that leads to ridiculously harsh ideas on punishment.
Do they honestly not care a jot for the wellbeing of anyone else? <<
I suspect that some of them might care, but may not consider the consequences of their actions - e.g. if I nick these wheel-nuts, the owner is bound to notice, so no harm done, eh?
While feeling the same rage as other posters here, my theory is that Society (which Maggie said doesn't exist, but on which these scumbags depend for their existence) can tolerate a certain level of scummery, but must try to prevent it reaching too uncomfortable a level. In some parts of the country there are dangerously high concentrations of pondlife, as news bulletins constantly remind us.
Edited by Andrew-T on 18/08/2008 at 18:10
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it just annoyes me that small minded people cant leave other peoples property alone, as they casue a lot of damage -
someone tried to kick my drivers side mirror off recently, they missed and I was left with a muddy shoe scratch down the back door, its now scuffed and there was a scratch on the main body near the fuel filler, didnt hide properly with touch up paint.
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What to do about it is a problem. In some areas and some individual cases a heavy hand will be called for sooner or later.
Sometimes though social or even simple civil engineering can make quite a difference. Less than a mile from where I live there used to be a monolithic brick sixties/seventies estate with huge buildings, very long corridors, walkways, a large population shovelled into it from the old Notting Hill ghetto then being gentrified: all the components of a notorious sink estate, which it duly became. I knew two people who lived there, who used rather sweetly to escort me in and out of the estate when I went to see them to prevent me from being killed and eaten by their feral young neighbours.
Although some of the buildings are still there, the biggest ones have gone and you wouldn't recognise the place now. Small houses with gardens and blocks of two-story maisonettes, winding streets, bits of lawn, have transformed it and to some extent the attitudes of the people who live there. Of course it is still an area with a complex street and parallel culture, much of it adolescent. Some well bad nippers round here, and adults too, but on the whole they don't bother other categories of citizen.
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Happened locally - I'll try to find a link - where a wheel was only held on by the locking nut, and parted ways at 90km/h, causing a massive smash and fatalities.
examination of the wreck showed that one of the other wheels only had the locknut and one other nut. Obviously the vermin work in teams.
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I know I've said it before, and it will be of no consolation to you for me to say it again, but it's a sign of the times. Things haven't always been like this, and eventually morality will improve. Morality goes up and down in cycles, but unfortunately the cycle time is very long and I don't expect a significant improvement in my lifetime. What's needed is a policy of zero tolerance so that people know where the line is between right and wrong in all matters. Unfortunately at the moment that state of affairs doesn't exist. And, equally unfortunately, if we did have a policy of zero tolerance there would be lots of complaints. At the moment there are regular complaints on this forum that, for example, being given a parking ticket for just exceeding the time limits is unjustified. It is justified ~ there's a line between right and wrong and exceeding a parking time limit is wrong and should be punished accordingly.
However, I'm convinced that the time will come when petty crimes/offences/misdemeanors (or whatever you want to call them) which are now seen as being acceptable by a lot of people will cease and all levels of crime will fall and your wheels will once more be safe ~ just as they were when I first learned to drive.
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