I'm due to inspect a car i intend to buy on Wednesday, but i have a couple of questions:
1, How many keys should i get to the vehicle? ie 2 x electric fobs? 1 x fob and 1 x regular key (non-electric) oir just 1 x key fob?
2, When i pick the car up a few days after purchase do i have to show the dealer valid insurance?
Any hints or tips?!
Ta!
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Presumably this is the Mondeo mentioned in your other post?
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=49999
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Is the car new or used?
I have one remote key and one basic one. I don't know whether that's the norm but I suspect it's fairly usual.
As for insurance, if you need the garage to tax the car, I presume they'll need the certificate beforehand. When I bought my (new) car, I was asked to arrange for the insurance certificate to be posted directly to the dealer. When I asked the company to do this they didn't seem to think it an odd request.
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The car is already taxed. You say you had to post the insurance direct to the dealer, did this mean you had to wait to pick up the car until the insurance note arrived there? (hoping to get the car asap).
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The dealer only needs the insurance cert to tax the car. if it's already taxed then that's not an issue.
Keys vary but generally 1 remote and 1 ordinary but try hard to get 2, if only because they're pretty expensive.
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Thanks for the replies about the keys, but i don't think i was clear in my question about the insurance. Forget the tax angle, what i mean is will the dealer allow me to drive away the car or does he need to see valid insurance? I will obviously have insurance, but i will not have received any paperwork in the post to prove this.
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If you are buying the car on finance, then he may be compelled to check your insurance. Other than that, its unlikely and would be off his own back if he did.
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Part-ex then remainder cash. Many thanks.
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Hi,
I recently bought a 6month old Mondeo ST TDCI and it came with two full remote keys. I therefore believe if you are buying a Mondeo it should come with the same.
Carse.
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Thanks for the replies about the keys, but i don't think i was clear in my question about the insurance. Forget the tax angle, what i mean is will the dealer allow me to drive away the car or does he need to see valid insurance?
Instead of us all suggesting an answer, when maybe the dealer has a different agenda, why don't you call and ask them?
I have a feeling that, strictly speaking, you're not supposed to drive until you have the insurance cover note in your hand, but I don't imagine many people bother waiting (even if it's true).
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If you are about to look at the car, ask to have a look at the instruction manual as this will specify how many keys were supplied with the car when new. Then check how many keys are being supplied and make sure the seller supplies that number. When collecting the car I would suggest you try all the keys in the ignition to check they have not just given you any old key just to make the numbers up.
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Roger
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
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You say you had topost the insurance direct to the dealer, did this mean you had to wait to pick up the car until the insurance note arrived there? (hoping to get the car asap).
No. It was posted first class and arrived in time. If the car is already taxed I can't see any reason for the dealer to care whether you have the car insured or not. Others may think of a reason though.
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As your Mondeo is a Titanium X I believe you will get one flip key and one normal key but they both have the central locking and boot release buttons. This is what I got on my Focus Titanium at least, and I think the Mondeo's are the same. You only get two full flip keys on ST models.
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Mondeo's dont have flip keys. Post the 2005 facelift which added the new rear lights, all models come with 2 remote keys.
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I travelled from North Wales to AvailableCar.com at Castle Donington last April to look at a Mondeo, liked it, test drove it, bought it, drove home in it , chanced the journey home untaxed (but insured over the phone with instant cover) and got stopped on the A50 and given a £60 fixed penalty for my trouble. The annoying thing was that the dealer told me they would be able to tax the car at purchase when I enquired over the phone, but this just wasn't true. The car sat on my drive for a few days until the insurance certificate arrived.
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Depends how second hand your car is. There is no reason for a dealer to hold back any keys, equally if they haven't been handed in by the previous owner or came from the auction, he is unlikely to make up the new car key complement from his own profit. Only when the dealer has arranged finance (and the co. have it as a requirement) will he need to see insurance - or if you want him to tax. Car can be taxed on their ins. policy but that will add them as a registered keeper. When you buy the car, its yours, why would the dealer put any restriction on you driving it away?
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">given a £60 fixed penalty for my trouble.<"
Peter Perfect has a criminal record. How times have changed
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">given a £60 fixed penalty for my trouble.<" Peter Perfect has a criminal record. How times have changed
A fixed penalty is a penalty, not a conviction. Only a court of law can convict you and give you a criminal record.
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I expect the dealer will give you as many keys as he gets. Mine came with one. We checked with the previous registered owner who had had it from new via his employer, then had bought it at the end of the lease period. He said he had only ever had one key for it, as his employer or the lease company had kept the other(s). A new plip key would have been very expensive so we just had a copy made of the key for any emergency.
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If PP admitted to committing a criminal offence by accepting the fixed penalty for failing to display a valid vehicle excise licence then it is now on record that he is criminal (it pains me to type that), what will Penelope say?
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My new C4 yesterday came with 1 folding remote plipper and 1 fixed (non-remote) key.
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thare are only two types of court, criminal and county. Motoring offences are not dealt with in county court therefore motoring offences are regarded as a criminal offence.
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cellarman you are wrong, there are two types of court. I can think of Magistrates (where most motoring offecnces are heard), High Court, Family Court, Appeals Court. I am not from a legal background, but no doubt someone else will clarify matters further.
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Roger
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
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Also you can be arrested for certain motoring offences, DNA taken, fingerprints and photograph etc, this is procedure for anyone being tried in criminal court of which a majistrates court is one. If you dispute fixed penalty you have to plead your case in a majistrates court which deals with criminal cases, i.e motoring cases are in effect criminal offences.
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i take your point but there are at the end of the day only two types of offences to come before a court, either civil or criminal and motoring offences do certainly not come under the heading o
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motoring offences are not civil offences but criminal offences.
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A fixed penalty isn't dealt with in *any* court, so it's not a conviction (of *any* kind).
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if you dispute or contest it it most certainly is dealt with in a court. But to return to the point I was making there are only two types of court, either civil or criminal and motoring offences are dealt with in a criminal court, if you contest a fixed penalty you have to do so in court, i.e a criminal court.
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Ah, such pedantry all round is to be admired, I think perhaps the middle ground is that PP has admitted to a heinous criminal act, that of failing to display a valid vehicle excise licence, his criminality is now therefore a matter of record, although he may not have a criminal record.
But the most important thing is, does Peter's confession improve my chances of a hot date with Penelope Pitstop?
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apologies for the spelling gaff, i.e. magistrate not majistrate spell checker not used, cringe cringe !!
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this is my first time actually replying to a thread so I crave your indulgence, but must admit it`s rather good fun !!
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