Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - XF8U
I am after a bike. Not too expensive. Bikes I have in mind are VFR400 KR1S RS250 RGV250
Relatively cheap to tax and insure although I am mature rider (37) but have been out of the game for two or three years or so now.

I had a KR1s a few years ago and had one or two problems but on the whole it was reliable.
I love two-strokes and was wondering if I got a VFR400 would I be dissapointed.
I know four-strokes are generally more reliable but are they less fun?

I have also noticed that VFR400's are quite pricey (even G and H reg ones) and for the same money I could buy a 600.

Any suggestions?
Mike
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Tiffx19
I bought a Kawasaki ZZR 400 after passing my test,identical to the 600,and very cheap to buy...once I got used to it,I dropped in the 600 motor,which too is identical to the 400,apart from the bore size.ZZR's are much less likley to have been thrashed than the bikes you mention too!
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Westpig
Honda build quality has to be considered
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - cheddar
Honda build quality has to be considered


The VFR400 is very complicated, an import "baby blade", a CBR400R. might be a better bet if you want a Honda.

The BEST 400 was the FZR400RR circa 1991, std UK model not import, exquisite alu beam frame, exup valve, you could fit an FZR 600 motor straight in (taking the 65 bhp to 95) though that would be verging on vandalism, otherwise the bullet proof ZXR 400 was made pretty much unchanged from the early 90's through to 2003 and still looks knockout.

All of these bike are small though, not comfortable if you are anywhere near 6ft.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - J Bonington Jagworth
A 600 would be less buzzy, IMHO. How about a Suzuki SV650?
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - cheddar
A 600 would be less buzzy, IMHO>>


True, though a 1000 would be less buzzy than a 600, there is something satisfying about a small high revving 4 cyl bike engine.


>>. How about a Suzuki
SV650?

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Looks carp and Suzuki finish is way behind Kawasaki yet alone Honda and Yamaha.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Robin Reliant
Drop the RGV 250 from the list if you want a cheap bike. Probably the nearest thing ever made to a GP bike that was road legal. Chews expensive tyres like there is no tomorrow and knackers bores and rings at almost the same rate. Will have been soundly thrashed by the previous owner and probably thrown down the road on a few occassions as well.

I can't see any insurance company offering cover without taking a deep breath and looking at how many zeros will fit on the calculator screen.
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Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - DP
Buy a ZZR600. Great all rounder and cheap. £2k will get you a well looked after late 90's model with the upgraded front forks. The 400 is a great bike, but the 600 is hardly any more expensive to buy or insure, and is that bit more effortless.

A real "do anything" bike. Tours well (500 miles in a day on mine once with only a slightly numb bum), 180 mile tank range when touring, very protective fairing, yet more than capable of being chucked about if you want to go scratching. Good pillion seat, lots of bungee hooks for attaching bags and cargo nets, and very reliable. Never was the "latest and greatest" sportsbike, so they don't tend to get mercilessly thrashed, or command silly used prices. Great engine which is tractable and smooth (and economical) under 8,000 RPM, but goes absolutely nuts from 8,000-14,000 RPM.

Look for rotten downpipes and warped discs. Otherwise the finish is generally pretty good. Rear shock upgrade (Hagon, £250) transforms it and was the best thing I ever did on mine.

Cheers
DP
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Pugugly {P}
Get yourself a bike course as well. COming back to bikes at this sort of age is statisically risky even after two years.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Westpig
Get yourself a bike course as well. COming back to bikes
at this sort of age is statisically risky even after two
years.


very good point........... a bike course IMHO is absolutely essential, otherwise if you're lucky you'll have a few near misses....and if you're not lucky................?..........it doesn't bear thinking about

10 years ago i came back to biking after a good 12 year gap........ i thought that because i was an advanced police driver i'd be laughing........well in some repsects i was..........but in others i most definitely wasn't and should have had some extra training, wish i had.... would have saved some brown trouser moments

Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - J Bonington Jagworth
"Suzuki finish is way behind"

So everyone says. My 6-year old GS500 lives outside and remains pretty tidy, however... :-)

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Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Edward
...and my GSX600F was 14 years old on it's original (tatty) exhaust and in daily use (inc. winter), when I traded it in last year for a brand new Honda 125 (due to greatly reduced commute). Honda already has rust on the frame, downpipe and various fasteners after only one winter.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Mr.Tee43
Get yourself a Yamaha Fazer FZS600, 1998 - 2002 version.It is a bike that will do anything you want from nipping down to the shops to touring.
It a smooth easy to ride bike that is reliable and cheap to run and insure.

Lots of information for a new owner at
www.foc-u.co.uk
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - cheddar
Get yourself a Yamaha Fazer FZS600, 1998 - 2002 version.It is
a bike that will do anything you want from nipping down
to the shops to touring.
It a smooth easy to ride bike that is reliable and
cheap to run and insure.


Good tip, I know of one that was still going strong at over 200,000 miles.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Clanger
"Suzuki finish is way behind"
So everyone says. My 6-year old GS500 lives outside and remains
pretty tidy, however... :-)


AIR HORNS - don't you just love 'em? Did you declare the bike as 'modified' when you insured it?
:-)
Hawkeye
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Stranger in a strange land
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - ssray
How about a early cbr(fm on) and fit a fs rear wheel and ram air? i did they are cheap and plenty of bits around.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - bikemade3
IMHO go for a Honda the buil quality of the eara you are looking at will surpass anything out there. Modern Hondas are good but not as good as they used to be.
If you do go CBR route check out the charging system lots of bodged bypassed wiring as the connectors corrode. Other than that they are fairly bullet proof.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - Geordie1
I came 'back' to bikes 3 years ago when then age 60 after a lapse of 37 years without any probs following a 'refresher' basic training course. Bought a new Triumph Bonneville T100 790cc which suits my style of riding and have no regrets on my choice of machine.
Decisions decisions - what motorbike? - J Bonington Jagworth
"Did you declare the bike as 'modified'..?"

Well, I said it now had an alarm fitted... :-)