Unless one happens to use the (often) on-site Tescos cafe, feeds and changes a baby and then shops?
I always felt the systems that gave free parking on demonstration of a till receipt worked best. Even if someone is taking the mickey by using the parking for town, they've at least come and spent a minimum amount (5/10 quid usually to get free parking), better than hounding otherwise decent customers?
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Unless one happens to use the (often) on-site Tescos cafe, feeds and changes a baby and then shops?>>
We have one of the largest and busiest Tesco Extra stores in the UK less than two miles from where I live - it now has a "three hour" parking limit policy (hardly surprising in view of its abuse by some motorists who work nearby).
I could use the cafe, feed and change nappies for a couple of young babies and fit in the shopping in far less than three hours and with plenty of time to spare...:-)
That's even with being out of practice, with regard to the offspring, for several decades...:-)
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I have one friend who was hounded (on his death bed) by the debt collectors from Tescos about a perceived overstay. It was actually 2 separate visits of his car, with the manual system unable to differentiate between separate parking periods. It took over 4 months of letters and visits to the store manager by SIL to get the dogs called off. He was dead by then!
At least an ANPR system will overcome this. Whether it will read mis-spaced plates and funny fonts is another issue. Time for flaps on the number plates I guess for arrival and departure at the supermarket car park and then free all day parking again for the commuters!
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Unless one happens to use the (often) on-site Tescos cafe, feeds and changes a baby and then shops?
Well, I did say more than enough for most genuine shoppers.
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I went to Tesco to change my babtybut I didn't like their selection so I took the original one home! Merry Christmas all!
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Examine the small print of the parking arrangement pmh.
'No retun in "X" hours.
Camera will spot in and out twice within the period and you get a ticket because the parking time in total has been exceeded.
Also bear in mind it is the intention of HMG to have all these cameras geared to National data base of ANPR......
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We have a local Tesco Express with parking restrictions. Problems with parking do exist but some of the cars taking the spaces are staff... hmm.
What I think could anger real customers, like me, is you pop to the shop and get some things. You get home later realise you forgot something and go back. So in theory because I go back I could be fined £70 (the time limit is 30 minutes I think)... I suppose Tesco Clubcard might come in handy proving two separate shopping visits. The alternative is you shop somewhere else.
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You'll find that the parking rules are enforced by some dodgy third party that couldn't give a fig for about your two till receipts...
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"You'll find that the parking rules are enforced by some dodgy third party that couldn't give a fig for about your two till receipts..."
Exactly... so they might end up keeping loyal customers away.
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It's still better than risking a parking ticket from the local council's draconian traffic wardens if you go to Asda - the council has the parking rights....:-(
Which is one reason why I don't shop at Asda. All to easy to overlook the time if you pay for half-an-hour in advance and have to wait to pay at the checkouts.
In fairness to Asda it does refund parking charges if you spend a certain amount or more, but it can't be much good for its profits.
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There's been complaints to our BBC 3 Counties Radio consumer prog, recently, about the fuel station at Stanstead Airport - not naming/shaming in case there are more than one.
Apparently a fixed penalty is mailed to you if you outstay their 20 minute allowable time frame. So how anyone would fuel, feed, coffee, kiddies clean up & impulse buy, goodness knows!!
The problem was 'created' by passengers being dropped off on the site, rather than proper set down/pick up points. No doubt other Broomers, familiar with the location will let us know how practical this would be!
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I saw a similar system to this being used at the Somerfield store in Borrowash nr Derby. Basically Borrowash is a village which happens to have a medium sized Somerfield store but very few other shops nearby, with the exception of a couple of hairdressers, a butchers, a florist, a small hardware store, a travel agent, a wedding dress shop, an angling shop, a chemist and a pet shop. Not much else around other than private housing and certainly not somewhere you would park for hours and hours.
Anyway, one day they decided to install this ANPR business on the entrances to the car park and set a time limit for the use of the car park. Everyone was up in arms about it and the system was only live for two or three weeks. So what observations did I make? Well before the ANPR I can never remember seeing any parking problems in the day time. There were always spaces and it was never chock a block. As soon as the ANPR appeared a lot of cars disappeared, which left the car park almost deserted (comparitively). I understand that the other businesses were hit by a sudden drop in trade and they led the protests against Somerfield. Presumably no one wanted to risk parking there whilst going for a haircut etc, and took their trade elsewhere. Whether or not the parking restrictions hit Somerfield themselves I don't know.
So like I say the ANPR parking scheme ceased after a few weeks and has never been reintroduced. The state of play in the car park is back to what it was, and personally I can't see any problem with that whatsoever. I can only conclude that the car parking scheme was primarily designed to extract money from people, rather than to combat any parking problems.
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>>Apparently a fixed penalty is mailed to you if you outstay their 20 minute allowable time frame. So how anyone would fuel, feed, coffee, kiddies clean up & impulse buy, goodness knows!!
The same thing is happening at BP /McDonalds at Gatwick
another money maker and no appeal I know a couple of people been caught and they were genuine visitors to McDonalds.Its about time we English stood up to this type of thing, these bullies can only get away with it in Britain be ause we are so soft and week and are mug enough to put up with it
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The thinking behind the the 'no return clause' is to allow 'policing' by low tech manual methods, ie a man making a list which only records presence at a given point in time. Not location, and 2 records more than X hours apart are assumed to mean that the vehicle has been there all the time. This is to prevent all day parking or overstays.
However once ANPR is implemented (on enter and leave) they can detect muti entries and length of stay. They then do not need to a have a no return policy. Provided of course that they can correctly identify the vehicle registration plate! They will need to have a time limit posted of course so that they can enforce the charges on the overtays, and to catch manually (probably on an a random basis those who conceal the registration plates.
Question, is it an offence to conceal the number plate in a private car park? I presume it is private since they can enforce their own charging regime!
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