Going back to cheap cars - dagwood
After just paying a large bill to get my car through MOT, by the way now have to pay for retest, i was thinking about going back to paying £500 for a car with a years MOT and then throwing it away as it were.
Wondering if anyone else does this and what were there experiences.
Any websites of interest?I already know Bangeromics.
Going back to cheap cars - bell boy
A car can easily consume £100 in an mot therefore the car you will be buying is a £400 car,anyone selling something like this is doing it in my opinion because they know or the mot man has said get rid of this as it wont get a pass next year.
Spend between £1000/£1500 and you are in a different league buy carefully and i dont really see why you shouldnt enjoy relatively cheap motoring over the next 4 years
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Going back to cheap cars - dagwood
Thanks for reply.The problem with that is once you get into thousand or more and you have a problem,the temptation is to spend more money on the car and before you know it the car owes you £2000.
Going back to cheap cars - jc2
Buy the car with a year's MOT;at the end of the year,check it for obvious faults and put it in for another MOT-if it passes or can be fixed cheaply,you've got it for another year;if not,scrap.
Going back to cheap cars - pmh
Three similar cars at £500 each are a better bet than a £1500 one! You have spares for life and if you choose carefully they will each be capable of 30k miles if bought with around 100k on the clock.
Pick something where you can source cheap pattern parts through GSF or Europarts. For that reason alone I would avoid all Japanese.

It all depends though on your ability to choose and maintain. I regard the £1500 car as a potentially expensive investment because you are committed to spend on maintenance in the event of a major problem rather than thro the car away. But it all depends on your finances.

By buying old you will be able to avoid the generation of cars with irreparable modules, or at least be able to fault find by substitution.

A friend who has just spent rather a lot of money on an Aston Martin was amused when I pointed to my BX and pointed out that I could have 600 (six hundred!) of them and parked nose to tail they would stretch the best part of 2.5 km.
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Going back to cheap cars - pmh
What I left out above was a link, go to
bangernomics.tripod.com/
for solid advice!

My personal choice if I was to follow my own advice would probably be a VW Jetta, with Golfs easily available for most spares.


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Going back to cheap cars - Sprice
Disagree with the above, if all you want to spend is £500 for troubke-free mororing, then its Japanese you want to be looking at! My current car is a 1991 Celica which Ive had for 3 years (41k trouble free miles, only oil changes etc, cost £1500), before that a £200 Sunny, a £200 Bluebird and £110 Passat. All were trouble free and came with new MOT's (all from Leominster car auction). I could afford to spend far more on a car if I wanted, but why pay for all that depreciation and worry about parking it etc.
Going back to cheap cars - jc2
Over the past twenty years,I have owned,besides my good cars,four"bangers",all bought cheaply,two as MOT failures which I fixed cheaply(look to see what the "fail" shows).No Jap.A 2CV,Fiesta(Mk1),Sierra(XR4i),Panda-each in turn served me for several years of reliable motoring at minimal cost.
Going back to cheap cars - jc2
I should have added the Sierra and Panda eventually went for scrap(157,000 and 178,000mls.respectively);2cv and Fiesta were sold as going concerns.
Going back to cheap cars - local yokel
My top tip would be a 205 diesel, non-turbo. Loads of parts available, bodies never rust, and very economical. Good ones fetch about £500-600, but should last well.
Going back to cheap cars - Cliff Pope
It largely depends on how competent you are as a DIY mechanic. If you are dependent on garages for servicing and repairs, then you need to view each car as simply a year's motoring, with another MOT being a bonus.
But if you can tackle most jobs yourself, then the way to get almost indefinite cheap motoring is to stick with a particular model you are familiar with, like, is basic and easy to work on.
Look out for cheap spare cars during your first year. If it fails the first MOT, buy another of the same kind. You are now building up experience of the kind of things that wear, so look around for other scrappies that have the bits you need still OK. The cheapest way to get, say, a gearbox, is to buy an entire car that has just failed its MOT on something else.
I'm assuming you have the space, of course.
Going back to cheap cars - Lud
Absolutely CP, had 10 years of cheap entertaining motoring, nasty surprises and dirty hands with a succession of Skoda Estelles. My present Escort 16v is a move upmarket, but uses more petrol than they did and has less character...

I'm looking for a gearbox and final drive for it right now. Don't suppose anyone has or knows of one?
Going back to cheap cars - jase1
Three similar cars at £500 each are a better bet than
a £1500 one! You have spares for life and if
you choose carefully they will each be capable of 30k miles
if bought with around 100k on the clock.
Pick something where you can source cheap pattern parts through GSF
or Europarts. For that reason alone I would avoid all Japanese.


This view is old fashioned. As Jap cars become more popular the price of parts is coming down. Nissan in particular, we've had three in a row and, on the rare occasion they've needed any parts, they've been as cheap as any French/German/Italian car (Ford/Vauxhall are cheaper I'll grant you but older Fords seem to drop to bits once they hit 10 years old in my experience, whereas the Nissans keep going until the body drops off with minimal frustration), and as easy to come by. Not that we've needed many (the odd corroded pipe, brake disc, battery etc).

Not as if there aren't tons of parts for old Nissans in the scrapyards and on ebay anyway. Recently needed a new tailgate strut for our old Sunny, it cost £8 delivered from an ebay bloke breaking on ebay. Doesn't get much cheaper than that.
Going back to cheap cars - Pugugly {P}
Cavalier, change the belts, check the hoses and stat. You can actually change the headlamp bulbs if they go without a degree in electronics and hands the size of a sycamore leaf.
Going back to cheap cars - Xileno {P}
I read in one of the car magazines today that TATA are importing into the UK, badged TATA rather the CityRover.
Going back to cheap cars - Lud
I read in one of the car magazines today that TATA
are importing into the UK, badged TATA rather the CityRover.


Perhaps they will be of impeccable quality now that the maker's name is at stake.
Going back to cheap cars - JH
X,
My neighbour has a TATA pick up and a local garage is (was?) a TATA dealer, so either they've been away and they've come back or they're entering the car market.

First call centres, now cars, grumble grumble.

JH
Going back to cheap cars - J Bonington Jagworth
Sound policy, as long as you know more or less what you're doing. It's a long time since I spent more than £1000 on a car, although I did spend £2k on a bike, which was of course a wild extravagence...

If I had the funds, I might be tempted by a new Kia Magentis for £7k, but then I would also be tempted by a Porsche 928... :-)
Going back to cheap cars - Navara Van man
With the price of mondeos you could probably pick up a six/ seven year old medium mielage example at the £1000 mark at auction.
Going back to cheap cars - rip
I fit nicely in this league (through finance, or lack off, not through choice!)

Yes bangers are the way forward, if someone scratches your car you don?t give a damn, but of course because its a banger no will scratch your car!

My scenario: xantia cost £800 two years ago, probably get £700 now on good day, maintenance cost roughly £300ish a year.

ave cost of 2 mot?s is £70 each included the mot fee.

Timing is all important on bangers. A car with 60k miles will soon need a belt, maybe cat and clutch, which will be expensive unless you are a good diy. A car at 90k will have two, preferably all three of these items done.

Bangers are an undefined concept. For example my car has hydropnumatic suspension and is 9 years old, does a smallish new £15000 car purchased today have this superior system...no chance. so which is better?

Also I find larger card will last better than smaller cars and not cost more to run, as the public on the whole are unaware of this these cars and are dirt cheap thus bargains.

bangernomics if chosen carefully is the way to go, if something major goes wrong scrap it.
Going back to cheap cars - Thommo
I buy cheap cars and waste all my money on expensive motorbikes.

There is always one car that is seriously out of fashion and just laughably cheap.

At present my pick is the SEAT Toledo Mk1. Its basically a Mk2 Golf but no one wants them. I picked up an R reg SXE one owner genuine 30,000 miles full main dealer history for £1,200. Had it a year now just been through the MOT clean as a whistle and expecting nothing but consumables for at least 3 years to come.

I don't know who buys new cars these days but they must have money to burn.
Going back to cheap cars - jc2
Upto 3/4 of the cars sold in the UK are business owned in some way-it's why most of the cars sold are hi-spec.
Going back to cheap cars - mike hannon
The UK market is hopelessly unbalanced because of the company car obsession, but at least the rest of us can have some cheap fun.
Going back to cheap cars - Thommo
It always used to be company cars and companies have to buy new have them main dealer serviced and sold at 3 years as this is the norm and anything else opens them up to litigation in court however I thought the company car was dieing out as people took the cash option.

Anyway good for us.

What you can get for £1,000 nowadays is absolutely amazing and usually good for 2/3 years on nothing but consumables and then bye bye.
Going back to cheap cars - jase1
It always used to be company cars and companies have to
buy new have them main dealer serviced and sold at 3
years as this is the norm and anything else opens them
up to litigation in court however I thought the company car
was dieing out as people took the cash option.


Well I get the cash option and don't buy cars new -- get them at 3 years old and run them until they become expensive to run. Most people with the money will still blow it on a brand-new model though I find.