>>If the hole is not near the shoulder, you can get is fixed for £10 and peace of mind all round.>>
Well it is half an inch from the shoulder, perhaps a bit close for a repair, reckon I will monitor the air loss over a week or so.
Regards.
|
I have experienced a tyre with nail as posted above. Didn't deflate at first. Only deflated when, upon parking, the tyre was at just the right rotation to open the hole just that bit more.
Get the tyre fixed. Although this is never a 100% certainty, the rubber yielding and tearing is a definite event.
|
I've had a tyre deflate without warning at (err) 70 in the outside lane of a motorway.
It taught me two things. First, look after tyres and keep them in good condition. Second, do something about young drunken louts lobbing glass bottles around near my drive.
Get it fixed.
|
|
I can only agree with patently. Fix it.
|
Get it fixed, your not just messing with your life but other road users as well. MOst places will repair foc
I inagine your insurance company would take a very dim view if you made a claim and they found out you had known all about the puncture.
And here it all is in black and white.
:)JaB
|
There seems to be a concensus opinion to repair on the basis of safety however there is a counter argumment. The tyre had a very narrow sharp pointed nail in it, it had probaly done no more damage than a large thorn might if one was to run over a fallen twig. However to remove a tyre imposes significant stresses upon it's structure not withstanding the fact that the repair requires a 4 or 5 mm hole to be drilled into the carcus cutting through perhaps one of the steel plys before a 'patch' is pulled through and bonded in place.
I checked the pressure again today, no air loss, I am in two minds.
|
The tyrehad a very narrow sharp pointed nail in it, it had probaly done no more damage than a large thorn might if one was to run over a fallen twig.
WOW, Can I borrow your glasses, clearley you can see through tyre walls with them. Unfortunatly you can not see what damage has been done unless the tyre is removed, It way well have popped some of the wire through to the inside of the tyre and weakend it. For piece of mind I would get it checked and repaired.
|
|
|
|
|
Have to agree with the last three. Couldn't imagine continuing to drive on a tyre that I KNOW has a puncture. Who knows what might prompt it to let go?
|
|
Well I have absolutely no air loss, in fact the other rear has lost a pound or two over a week due to a slight leak around the valve, perhaps I was mistaken when I thought I heard a gentle sssh as the nail came out.
|
Small hole in tyre allows damp through to cords, cords rust and deteriorate over period of time. Rubber then separates from cords and BANG!
Seen it happen with fatal consequences. Nuff said!
It aint worth the risk. The minimum you should do is have it repaired and the hole re-sealed. Still carries an element of risk.
Fullchat
|
I don't think I would dare mess around with mine, I like knowing that if I want to I can throw it into a corner mercilessly without (too much) fear of a tyre blowing out. Of course it's a second hand car and as such as had second hand tyres so I suppose it's not possible to be certain...
Blue
|
|
Once you have done 50 iles on a new tyre there is no knowing what you might have run over and what damage has been done unless you get a puncture.
|
Cheddar,
It's quite clear that you have made your mind up not to get the tyre repaired, as you are arguing counter to anyone who suggests repair.
This seems odd, as it won't cost you anything bar five minutes of your time to ask a tyre place if a fix in that spot is possible. If they say "no", you can leave and run the risk exactly as you are now. If they say "yes", then for a tenner you can get real peace of mind.
You might want to look inwards and see what it is in your mind that is stopping you wanting to resolve this.
V
|
Cheddar,
<< ...a very narrow nail approx 6 or 7 mm long with a large head...
What you described sounds more like a drawing pin than a nail.
Tread depth when a tyre is new is usually about 8mm, so the tread depth of a used tyre will on average be about 5 mm. On this basis it's POSSIBLE that the nail MAY not have penetrated through the outer layer of rubber. However, because it's a safety issue I will not go any further.
--
L\'escargot.
|
It's quite clear that you have made your mind up not to get the tyre repaired, as you are arguing counter to anyone who suggests repair.
Not true, I am not sure that repair is either 1/ necessary or 2/ wise.
1/ There is no appareent damage or air loss.
2/ Taking a tyre off and on a rim does not do it much good, nor does drilling a 5mm hole in it through the metal plys and plugging it.
This seems odd, as it won't cost you anything bar five minutes of your time to ask a tyre place if a fix in that spot is possible. If they say "no", you can leave and run the risk exactly as you are now. If they say "yes", then for a tenner you can get real peace of mind.
Perhaps, for peace of mind I will ask if a repair is necessary.
You might want to look inwards and see what it is in your mind that is stopping you wanting to resolve this.
That is a bit heavy for a motoring forum! I repeat I am not sure that repair is either necessary or wise. Therefore I am not even sure that I need a tyre fitter yet alone a psychoanalyst (though a spell checker might help)!
|
Chedder
About an hour ago I had one of the Land Rover tyres repaired. It too had had a nail in it. Chris, the local garage owner, took the wheel off the vehicle, deflated the tyre, removed the valve and inserted some repair compound, refitted the valve, re inflated said tyre and refitted it to vehicle all whilst I waited all for a fiver!
He mentioned that he may not be able to carry out a normal repair because of the type of damage.
FWIW - get it done you tight wad!
H
|
Nah, leave it. Will be one less Mondeo TDCi on the roads when the inevitable happens.
[/tic]
|
Leaving $$'s crass ignorance to one side can we put this into perspective.
I had a tiny incy wincy nail in my tyre, it clearly had not been there long, I carefully pulled it out and thought I heard a sssh, I must have been mistaken because there is not air loss in over 10 days now.
Following your advice I will, in turn, ask my friendly tyre centre's advise however my current opinion is as follows:
1/ Stress to the tyre in removing it/refitting and the process of drilling and plugging the tyre puts it in a more hazardous condition than leaving it well alone.
2/ The insertion of sealer is not applicable because there is no leak to seal.
3/ Sealer is potentially dangerous in it's own right because it allows a damaged tyre to remain inflated, rather than deflate in a controlled way, thus makiung a blow-out more likely.
4/ Normal day to day driving exposes the tyres to various man made and natural objects that do cause minor damage to tyres that the driver is completely ignorant of.
Regards.
|
|
PS: Yes I can afford 10 or 15 quid to have it repaired if required. In fact if I am given such advice I might prefer to replace it, after all as you guys say, better to be safe than sorry. ;-)
|
|
Why dont you get some tyreseal put into your tyres as you will find that the seal will enhance the life of your tyre, and you will not have to check the pressure each and every day. Just in case there is a leak or damaged tyre. I think you can get it done at £10-per wheel. Dont just have two done, have all four done, but make sure that all the wheels have been balanced
|
Why dont you get some tyreseal put into your tyres as you will find that the seal will enhance the life of your tyre, and you will not have to check the pressure each and every day. Just in case there is a leak or damaged tyre. I think you can get it done at £10-per wheel. Dont just have two done, have all four done, but make sure that all the wheels have been balanced
As I said before above:
"3/ Sealer is potentially dangerous in it's own right because it allows a damaged tyre to remain inflated, rather than deflate in a controlled way, thus makiung a blow-out more likely."
|
|
I must say that to deny you have argued against everyone who has said "play safe" is a little disingenuous. You clearly want to take the risk. Let's hope nothing goes wrong. If it does, let's hope it's just you who has an accident.
|
As all sides of the discussion have now been adequately covered, and insults have started flying, there can't really be much more to say, so I've locked the thread.
smokie, BR Moderator
|
Cheddar has further information to add to this thread so I have unlocked it. Some of the earlier posts have been edited.
There's no need to repeat the earlier statements concerning any risks you consider he may be taking as we've already covered that.
Thanks
smokie, BR Moderator
|
I had a very small thin nail removed from the rear tyre on my motorcycle in France a month ago. The fitter who did it instantly checked for loss of air; absolutely nothing came out.
I've since done another 700 miles with no loss of air whatsover. I thought I was looking at being £150 lighter for a new tyre, so for the first time ever I'd say it's a right result. I'm also perfectly happy I've not got much to worry about until the tyre needs replacement on wear grounds alone.
|
Reading this thread reminds me that exactly the same happened with the fron tyre on my wifes car. Pulled a nail out and put a bit of spit on the tiny hole and it bubbled for a second or two.
Marked the area and checked again a day or two later and the pressure was still the same and with no leak. Forgot about and now a couple of years and several thousands of miles it still keeps its pressure.
|
I must say that to deny you have argued against everyone who has said "play safe" is a little disingenuous. You clearly want to take the risk. Let's hope nothing goes wrong. If it does, let's hope it's just you who has an accident.
As I said before above:
" Yes I can afford 10 or 15 quid to have it repaired if required. In fact if I am given such advice I might prefer to replace it, after all as you guys say, better to be safe than sorry."
|
OK, rather like Rhino and Alvin above the advice I have been given is along the lines of "there is no air coming out and you cannot even see a hole so why worry".
Of course I will continue to check the tyre pressure regularly.
|
Of course I will continue to check the tyre pressure regularly.
That is exactly what I would do. There must be thousands of cars that have, or have had, a short small-diameter piece of metal stuck in a tyre. As I said (in different words) earlier your "nail" may have been shorter than the thickness of the outer layer of rubber. In addition it maybe didn't even go in at right-angles to the tread surface.
--
L\'escargot.
|
I quote: "Cheddar has further information to add to this thread so I have unlocked it."
Cheddar adds further information:
>As I said before above:
>
>" Yes I can afford 10 or 15 quid to have it repaired if required. >In fact if I am given such advice I might prefer to replace it, >after all as you guys say, better to be safe than sorry."
Wow, thanks for the extra information!
|
Wow, thanks for the extra information!
That was not the extra information, instead it was a point made earlier in the thread that you, for one. chose to ignore. Once again you have either misunderstood or miscontrued a point that has been made quite clearly!
|
I'm a little lost here. Just what is the new info? Has it been editted in to an existing post or is it in a new one? I can't see anything new here except one of my comments having been removed (although the retort that led to it remains. How even handed).
|
I'm a little lost here. Just what is the new info? Has it been editted in to an existing post or is it in a new one? I can't see anything new here except one of my comments having been removed
Post today at 07:09.
>>(although the retort that led to it remains. How even handed).
Yes, I agree, the fact that it was a retort makes it very even handed.
|
|
|
|
