Help me narrow down these choices for me please! - dave321

I currently drive a Focus MK3 Manual with the ecotec engine which is likely to give out soon, my fault for not doing my due diligence before buying.

Anyhow, my family is growing so soon will need 2 baby seats in the back, and modern baby seats are bulky. So would need to fit 2/3 adults and 2 baby seats.

Will need to be ULEZ compliant, I don't mind diesel as I will be doing the occasional long motorway drive, but mostly driving around London.

I've narrowed down to these choices below, budget is around £9k, and looking at ULEZ compliant, Automatic cars;

Saloons

BMW 3 Series 2015+; small-ish so not daunting jumping up from a small hatchback to this. Diesel engines are good

Merc C Class 2016+; slightly more roomier in the back than the 3 series, and more bells and whistles as standard than the 3 series (i.e. reverse camera etc).

BMW 5 Series 2015+; very solid engines, much more spacious than a 3 Series or C Class. Surprisingly cheaper/more available used than the 3 Series or C/S Class. Some even cheaper than 3 Series.

Merc E Class 2016+; Probably the most luxurious feel, more roomy than the above listed. E220D supposedly solid engines, more things fitted as standard, though the most expensive out of the ones listed above.

Estates

3 Series Touring: Looks really nice, in fact the only nice estate of the versions mentioned above. But is it any roomier than the passengers than the standard 3? Harder to source so more expensive.

SUVS

I know generally frowned upon by car enthusiasts, but just thinking about putting in 2 rascals into the car without having to bend down excites me! Lol

I want to avoid Qashqai's as I've heard the ones that are available within my budget (upto 2015ish) are quite problematic.

VW Tiguan: Same reason why I am choosing to avoid Skoda's/Audi's, because gearbox issues. I've not known anyone that's managed to get these cars to high mileage without gearboxes failing or causing major issues. However happy to be proven wrong.

Audi Q5; see above.

Lexus NX: Can't find any above my budget. Boot seems a bit too small.

I am open to suggestions (you guys are the experts!).

Edited by dave321 on 06/08/2025 at 14:44

Help me narrow down these choices for me please! - galileo

Grand daughter had a 2 year old and a 3 year old girl: gave birth to twin boys so needed a 7 seater, found a Dacia Jogger which has service history, seems good, 1 litre turbo engine, from reputable dealer, leasing for about £200 per month.

Help me narrow down these choices for me please! - Xileno

He wants automatic, I think only the Hybrid model comes with that so probably out of budget?

Help me narrow down these choices for me please! - Adampr

Used BMWs and Mercs are relatively cheap to buy for a reason (they cost a lot to keep going).

I suspect most will suggest you'd be better off looking for a Toyota Auris, Avensis or RAV4, or a Honda CRV.

Help me narrow down these choices for me please! - Chris M

"So would need to fit 2/3 adults and 2 baby seats."

It would have to be a very small adult or a very short journey, possibly both, with two baby seats in the back. I think only the outer seats would have isofix and it would be tricky clambering over one to enter/exit - especially in an emergency.

Help me narrow down these choices for me please! - SLO76
I don’t personally rate any of the cars you’re looking at - on that budget. The 3 series and the Merc are really small inside, I had a 2018 C Class estate for a year and didn’t really get on with it, our Nissan Leaf was bigger inside. The 4cyl engines are unrefined and noisy at idle, the diesels suffer DPF issues and sensor problems, they’re poorly built inside and there’s less space than in most Golf/Focus size hatchbacks. The auto box requires a costly service at 77,500 miles which will set you back £500-£700 at a specialist and the parts are crippling if you need something other than service items. It was very comfortable though. I got shot of it after a year. I liked the look of it though so I get the appeal.

The 4cyl BMW’s aren’t paragon of reliability either, plus space is tight inside. I wouldn’t buy one as a family car for 4. They do drive well though. A genuine local BM specialist is an absolute must if you want to run one of these however. Main dealers are ludicrously overpriced, and most other garages have no clue how to maintain them reliably in their dotage. Ditto this for the Merc. Totally get the 5 series Touring though, these are nice things. But as with any modern DPF equipped diesel there’s loads to go wrong, plus the self levelling rear suspension can fail. I’d go for one without this. The auto box it a good one though, no daft automated manuals here.

I’d be looking at a Mazda 6 estate with the tough 2.0 Skyactiv petrol motor and torque converter box. They’re not quick mind, but they don’t really go wrong. Just make sure you get underneath to look for serious rust. The SUV CX5 with the same engine and box are good family wagons too, but avoid the diesels at all costs. The CX5 is more plentiful.

Wouldn’t touch a VAG car with the DSG box, so no Tiguan or Audi A6. They’re miserably unreliable gearboxes as they age, and you’d be buying at the stage where it’s liable to fail catastrophically. I’d be tempted by a manual A6 Avant, but I couldn’t find any when looking last year.

Sounds like you’ve the same requirements we had. The Merc estate I bought was a compromise, I couldn’t find a decent Mazda 6 estate at the time and had to jump. It was the wrong car, it wasn’t well made and lacked enough space for a family. But the budget I had was £16,000. The cars you’ll be looking at will be much older with many more miles up, I wouldn’t even think of one at £9k unless it had a perfect history and the gearboxes service has been done on time. Most haven’t, and no dealer will fork out to do it.

We effectively replaced the Merc with a VW ID3, which actually has much more space inside despite taking up less road. There’s no engine, so everything sits further forward. Rear space is more akin to a Passat than a Golf. But I know this isn’t on your list.