Ive just been to give Gordy another £160, whereupon I had a friendly argument with the post office staff! I filled in the tax renewal from, and took it, along with a VALID insurance certificate,my current one, as stated on the form. (My insurance is up for renewal at the same time as the tax). The lady said she couldnt accept it because it did not cover the taxation period. I stated that my next insurance policy was not valid as of today! No joy.
The point is, I might not have sorted out my next policy yet. You can do it online and get instant cover the night before if you so wish, but with these new rules of an £80 fine on the day your current tax disc runs out, you will get fined!
So you either have your next years policy ready, with the certificate/cover note at your disposal or you pay £80 fine!
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She's a jobsworth who's talking rubbish. Only requirement is to have the car insured on the day it is taxed, same as the MOT. Try another Post Office, or your local VRO.
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RichardW
Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
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Had exactly the same problem with the wife's car. Insurance ran out three days after the tax and at first the Post Office refused to accept the certificate. I told them I only needed a valid insurance certificate for the tax and as far as I was aware there was no stipulation as to how long the insurance had to be valid for, but if there was for them to advise me on how long this should be. I eventually spoke to the PO manager and he completed the transaction. I actually had the new certificate on me, but preferred to argue my point!
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It is stupid, I had the new ins certificate at home and had to go back and get it (easier than going elsewhere).
The point is though, it was not valid! (Also, I could now cancel it as I havent paid anything because it hasnt started yet!)
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Thought the requirement was to show cover at the commencement of the licence, if you are renewing a January expiry that will require cover including 1 Feb. The new £80 fine (described as a VED supplement) applies when you have neither taxed nor SORNed 30 days after the old disc expired. If you use the car on the road after expiry you are theoreticaly liable fo the offence of going untaxed, but you would be seriously unlucky to be reported and prosecuted inside the first few days of Feb.
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You're right Simon, my goof! However, it is very misleading to say simply "a valid insurance certificate".
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Tax I presume runs from the midnight preceeding the first day. Insurance usually runs from mid-day.
So the time of day could be critical too.
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How many people have insurance that runs at the same dates as the VEL expiry? Not many I suspect. So what about MOT-does the same apply there then? No it doesn't. Bless the Post Office!.
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Ive just been to give Gordy another £160, whereupon I had a friendly argument with the post office staff!
So it seems to have been a misunderstanding on your part?
In an older thread there was debate about 14 days period of grace. This is what the DVLA say
www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/vehlicnc.htm
7. Unlicensed vehicles and Continuous Registration
If you are/or become the registered keeper of a vehicle, you must ensure that the vehicle is relicensed or a SORN declaration has been made. If it is not, you could face a fine and further penalties. Under the system of Continuous Registration (CR), which commenced in January 2004, it is not necessary for your vehicle to be sighted on the public road, for an offence to have been committed. DVLA now has the authority to carry out enforcement action against the registered keeper directly from information held on the vehicle licence records.
If your licence has just expired you may continue to use your vehicle for up to 14 days after its expiry as long as you have applied for a new licence that must run from the day after the last one expired. This 14-day period of grace is a concession. By law, you must display a current licence at all times the vehicle is in use.
BOLD is as per DVLA site.
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Yes, sort of! I think they were probably right, although it does say on the renewal form, take this form and a valid certificate of insurance, which is very misleading. PS I'll have a dollop of cream with my slice of humble pie!
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Yes, sort of! I think they were probably right, although it does say on the renewal form, take this form and a valid certificate of insurance, which is very misleading. PS I'll have a dollop of cream with my slice of humble pie!
We've all been there mate - you're in good company!
Hugo
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also see previous thread for some more useful info
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=18864
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