Bodyshop problems :( - KeithP
Another problem now :(

My son recently took his car into a bodyshop to have a wing replaced as an elderly lady had pushed a trolley into the side of it.

He decided to have both sides sprayed down the side and the bonnet also to make sure the car all blended in and also get rid of a few scratches.

He got the car back and was initially very pleased with the finish.

Until he looked at the rear quarter and noticed that between the window and the tailgate where there is a strip of metal that the bodyshop hadnt removed the water marks underneath and laquered straight over the top, so he now has permanent water marks :(.

He contacted the bodyshop and they at first didnt believe him, until he explained all he had done to check that it wasnt just surface watermarks.

They then offered to spray the effected sides and then laquer over the top, but this would cause colour match issues or to just leave it as it is :(

We tried to suggest that perhaps they could use a rubbing compound like Farecla G3 to remove this new laquer layer, so they could effectively get down to the top paint level where the water marks are located, remove the water marks and then relaquer it, so the colour match is still perfect. But they have refused saying that it cant be done, just wondering if they are just trying to save time and therefore refusing, does anyone know?

Thanks again
Keith
Bodyshop problems :( - Sooty Tailpipes
If the bodyshop gets the same type of paint from the same supplier, I doubt colour match will be an issue, so have them just do the affexted panels again., Colour match should not be an issue in the computer afe, with computer controlled paint mixing and colorimeters to measure the existing paint anyway.
Bodyshop problems :( - KeithP
hmm,

I didnt think they could do that, as when a friend had her car hit from behind, the car was taken to a Nissan Bodyshop and when the tailgate was replaced it looked visibly darker as it was newer paint and due to the fade on the older paint.

The bodyshop is actually a Vauxhall bodyshop and they never suggested that and when I went there all I didnt see any computer based paint mixing machines. Is this generally only found in more specialised bodyshops? or should any bodyshop have this?

Thanks
Matt
Bodyshop problems :( - KeithP
Just a note to say that I am the "Son". :D

Matt
Bodyshop problems :( - Sooty Tailpipes
They order the paint from a local car body factors, they mix it according to the code that the bodyshop supplies, this is usually on an information plate on the body. It will say something like PAINT CODE 003T TRIM CODE JK

They tell them the paint code and make and year, and they mix it using various base stocks of different colours and about 8 different types of metal flake for metallics (even these are sometimes mixed in certain ratios)

Usually the bodyshop also has the choice of at least Acrylic or Two Pack paint, the first being easier to use and gets a nicer finish from the gun, the second is very toxic, and needs a bit of buffing (refinishing) or it can look plasticy, but is much more durable.

A good bodyshop will return a poor match of paint and have them alter it, a good painter will be able to phone up and say, can I have a bit more brilliant blue and two dots of black in this paint, and they will collect it and redeliver it later on (the paint people have vans going round the bodyshops all day long with supplies)

Hope it helps!
Bodyshop problems :( - KeithP
Hi,

Thanks for the reply, I will put that to them when I speak to them next ;)

If for whatever reason they cant do that, is my idea about rubbing down the laquer layer with a Farecla product a feasible idea?

Thanks
Matt
Bodyshop problems :( - KeithP
Hi,

Just spoke to them today and they said that they cant do that :( and theyve never heard of it, all they said they could do was use the same paint (so it wont be faded to the equivalent of 10 years and wont blend into the rest of the car).

So now im stuck with either permanent water marks or paint that doesnt blend at all.

Now ive found other problems with their work.

Getting seriously fed up now :(

Matt
Bodyshop problems :( - Mark (RLBS)
I'm a bit confused.

The has been resprayed on two sides, and presumably only recently since you've just found the watermarks.

Therefore that is "new" paint. Does it blend in with the remaining "old" paint ?

The area with the watermarks is "new" paint within a large area of "new" paint. So presumably respraying just that piece would not introduce any colour mismatch between it and the already recent paint ?

So I'm either confused or I'm missing the problem because I can't see where new paint will meet old paint in any place where it doesn't already.
Bodyshop problems :( - KeithP
Hi,

Sorry I probably didnt explain well.

Yes it is recently.

Basically on the sides they sprayed the wing and door and then blended into the panel, which basically means they get half way up the rear then flick the gun so it spreads the paint, so that it blends in and there is no further need to spray back. Then they put the laquer layer on top to give it the correct finish, the trouble is at this particular area on the car (just between the rear window and tailgate) all of the metal area there shows water marks, and they laquered straight over it, rather than just wipe it down before hand.

Hope that makes sense ?

 

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