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Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Ciaran COLLINS

spent £3750 on a car 6000 miles down the road and 10months my mot BILL is due AND £1300 the garage said to PASS CAR ,i looked back at the mot history and was suspect to see that mot have had advisories on every year and never been attended to or fixed to my knowledge yet the mot that come with the car had a pass with no advisories and my new mot came with the past history of all the years advisories £1300 bill all in one bundle ,all the MOT are done by the same MOT inspection garage who has covered its history who is situated next door (and why they didn't pick up at least one of advisories over the last 10 years when they did the MOT the previous advisories had been corrected as not showing on the mot I thought, is this a honest garage

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Falkirk Bairn

It's a 13 + year old car and you bought it from a dealer for £3750.

On a budget of £3750 a smaller & newer car might have been a better buy.

My 15 year old Mazda Xedos, £22K new in 1998 - 2 owners including myself for 14.5 years was sold by me for £500 - apart from the odd remark / minor cause of failure on the car it had been flying through MoTs for 10+ years and cost me less than £1000 in repairs in my ownership & mostly due to age - rubber perishes and brake calipers wear out seals.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - nellyjak

This seems a bit unclear to my simple brain ...I presume that the OP is complaining more about the MOT/History/repair costs etc. than the actual car itself.?

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Bolt

spent £3750 on a car 6000 miles down the road and 10months my mot BILL is due AND £1300 the garage said to PASS CAR ,i looked back at the mot history and was suspect to see that mot have had advisories on every year and never been attended to or fixed to my knowledge yet the mot that come with the car had a pass with no advisories and my new mot came with the past history of all the years advisories £1300 bill all in one bundle ,all the MOT are done by the same MOT inspection garage who has covered its history who is situated next door (and why they didn't pick up at least one of advisories over the last 10 years when they did the MOT the previous advisories had been corrected as not showing on the mot I thought, is this a honest garage

Am I reading this correctly, you bought a car with new MOT that had no advisories on, gone for a new MOT, but they have used all previous MOT advisories in one lump and charged you for fixing them all??

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - galileo

It is a pity you did not check the MOT history and advisories before you bought this.

If you had, you could of asked the dealer if all had been fixed and had them put this in writing, which would give grounds to claim against the dealer and/or the MOT garage.

On the other hand, you might have decided to look for a better maintained vehicle elsewhere.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Ciaran COLLINS

Charging me yes if I want it to pass mot, I told them I understand wear of tyres brakes I don't mind that but the advisories in past history obviously was not fixed im not complaining about the general wear but the past is a bit unfair , if I would of known those advisories where still present i would of had a different opinion on buying i thoughtthe advisories not appearing where dealt with

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Andrew-T

Advisories are just that - advice that potential future faults have been noted. Some testers may decide to fail a car while others issue a pass with advisories. If the car's MoT has not expired you might take it to another test-station for a second opinion, but that is unlikely to work as all history is now online.

As has been said, it would have been better to check the car yourself before buying. I would have thought your price was rather high for a 12-year-old car, but that may be because of the recent supply-demand imbalance ?

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - edlithgow

You don't have to fix advisories. That is why they call them advisories.

Are you saying that ALL the previous "advisories" have now "matured" into fails, but the penultimate MOT pass you bought the car with had no advisories, and that all the MOT certs are from the same MOT station?

If so, yeh. smells like collusion. Report them, if you are sure of your facts

(to the DOT? A while since I've had to deal with this...er...stuff)

I'd think that should endanger their possession of a testing license, or whatever its called.

Actually it looks like conspiracy to commit a fraud, which I'd think should up the ante quite a bit.

But I'm not a lawyer. (Seem to keep typing that lately).

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Ciaran COLLINS

The facts are there in black and white I've checked history and put in the log book number to see who mot was carried out with and same garage since 2014 ,2015 ,2016,2017,2018,2019 (,2020 mot with car straight pass no advisories, I've reported them to consumer services they throw it to trade standards and I haven't heard anything from them, what else can I do the garage stopped communicating with me im sending a ladt action letter , its not very honest if this is allowed , any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - brum

The facts are there in black and white I've checked history and put in the log book number to see who mot was carried out with and same garage since 2014 ,2015 ,2016,2017,2018,2019 (,2020 mot with car straight pass no advisories, I've reported them to consumer services they throw it to trade standards and I haven't heard anything from them, what else can I do the garage stopped communicating with me im sending a ladt action letter , its not very honest if this is allowed , any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated

From what I understand, the OP was sold a car that had a recent clean MOT with NO advisories. The next MOT, the same garage demanded £1300 to carry out necessary repairs referencing advisories that were from MOTs previous to the last, claiming it would not pass the MOT. The same MOT station/garage were involved.

It does sound as if the no advisories pass possibly was "arranged" or the garage is simply deliberately trying it on with a customer.

It's difficult to judge, perhaps the OP could post the MOT history and repairs carried out. MOT's are down to the judgement anf opinion of the tester on the day which can vary from person to person.

At the very least the OP can report it and it might get investigated, especially if the garage has been reported previously.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/complain-about-...t

So did the car fail the latest MOT and the garage quoted £1300 of repairs, or did the garage say it needed £1300 of repairs to guarantee an MOT pass before the test was actually carried out?

Edited by brum on 27/05/2021 at 17:02

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Ciaran COLLINS

The facts are there in black and white I've checked history and put in the log book number to see who mot was carried out with and same garage since 2014 ,2015 ,2016,2017,2018,2019 (,2020 mot with car straight pass no advisories, I've reported them to consumer services they throw it to trade standards and I haven't heard anything from them, what else can I do the garage stopped communicating with me im sending a ladt action letter , its not very honest if this is allowed , any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated

From what I understand, the OP was sold a car that had a recent clean MOT with NO advisories. The next MOT, the same garage demanded £1300 to carry out necessary repairs referencing advisories that were from MOTs previous to the last, claiming it would not pass the MOT. The same MOT station/garage were involved.

It does sound as if the no advisories pass possibly was "arranged" or the garage is simply deliberately trying it on with a customer.

It's difficult to judge, perhaps the OP could post the MOT history and repairs carried out. MOT's are down to the judgement anf opinion of the tester on the day which can vary from person to person.

At the very least the OP can report it and it might get investigated, especially if the garage has been reported previously.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/complain-about-...t

So did the car fail the latest MOT and the garage quoted £1300 of repairs, or did the garage say it needed £1300 of repairs to guarantee an MOT pass before the test was actually

Car failed MOT they said it wasn't safe to drive

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - bathtub tom

Car failed MOT they said it wasn't safe to drive

I think you need to tell us the registration number so we can look at the MOT history, or alternatively look it up youself and post it here with any details you want hidden, deleted.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Ciaran COLLINS

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Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Ciaran COLLINS

Car failed mot unsafe repair 1,300

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has created me - Bolt

Car failed mot unsafe repair 1,300

Not much point in telling us what they have said/done if we do not know what the failure/s were for and knowing how serious they are.?

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Andrew-T

The facts are there in black and white I've checked history and put in the log book number to see who mot was carried out with and same garage since 2014

Although it may look suspicious, I don't see what solid case you could make. If the faults which needed fixing are the ones advised about over those years, it is plausible that they have become serious enough to be no longer 'advisories' ?

As has been said, that clean MoT pass may be down to the opinion of a lenient tester.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Bolt

As has been said, that clean MoT pass may be down to the opinion of a lenient tester.

That would look odd anyway the fact it was given clean bill of health for sale, but the same advisories suddenly pop up after the sale, don`t you think?

warrants reporting imo!

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Ciaran COLLINS

Mot retest this isn't down to opinions on testers believe me it's quite visible

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Ciaran COLLINS

Thing is this Andrew what you've just said to me sounds like a perfect alibi thats all

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Andrew-T

Thing is this Andrew what you've just said to me sounds like a perfect alibi thats all

I thought you said that it was 6K miles and 10 months since the clean MoT ? A lot can happen in that time.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - brum

It appears the OP is unwilling to share any information about these previous "advisories", the MOT fail or the repairs carried out. Therefore I cannot offer any further comment or help, and I expect that DVSA or trading standards will be unwilling to get involved.

It sounds to me simply that the OP feels aggreived at spending £1300 and trying to make a case and find support that they were ripped off.

There are relatively short time limits to when MOT complaints can be filed. Its all in the link I posted earlier.

If the OP is successful with his endeavours, then it would be nice if they posted about it as a follow up.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Ciaran COLLINS
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Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - badbusdriver
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In 2018 the only advisory is; "N/S rear brake pipe slightly corroded"

In 2019 the only advisory is; "O/S rear brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material"

Even going back to 2017, the only advisory mentioned is a deteriorated front suspension bush.

This doesn't support your claim re previous advisories, and that the garage was trying to hide the actual condition of the car. I think you just need to accept the fact that this is an old car, and cars will invariably deteriorate over time.

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - Ciaran COLLINS

Unfortunate i maybe with the car but with the mot it didn't look fair to me and suspicious Ike the pass was wiped clean for the sale by the mot tester whos situated next to his garage ME thinking they didn't give me a genuine honest description of the car and not fair to the public ive checked similar cars on his web site all with a similar pattern but I cant check tester as you need a log number

Toyota rav4 - I'm not sure if a garage has cheated me - badbusdriver

I really don't understand why you think the MOT history is suspicious?. If anything, it may be slightly suspicious (especially the rear disc) that there were no advisories at all on its last MOT, but that was a year and 7k miles after its previous one. But your comments that the MOT history is, essentially, proof of of your claim that you have been duped by the garage who sold you the car and/or the garage who did the MOT last year, doesn't hold any water.

Looking at the MOT history, apart from the current fail, the most (advisories) mentioned was 2016 (5 years ago!), and most of the text is taken up by saying that all 4 tyres are near the legal limit. Other than that, the deteriorated suspension bush is mentioned, as is a 'slightly' binding rear brake, so nothing serious. The year before that, 2015, the suspension bush is mentioned (for the first time) along with a slight exhaust leak and a loose heat shield. Again, nothing serious.

So I completely fail to see what you appear to think the MOT history proves.

Tyres wear out, brakes wear out, suspension components wear out, wiper blades wear out. Short journeys where the car doesn't fully warm up cause the exhaust to rust (due to condensation).

 

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