Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution

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Mon 10 Jun 2019 17:41
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - IrfanW

Hi all, apologies starting off yet another thread on this. I've seen two previous ones but can't seem to add to them

I've read the two following forum discussions as I'm having similar problems

I was wondering if the user Screwloose is still available as they answered alot of the questions?

Problem has been ongoing since November 2018. The antipollution fault light came up after the car was not picking up speed and would barely get past 30mph. I've done the following so far :-

- Added some Redex and DPF cleaner and taken it on a motorway run a few times @ 3000pm to try and give a kick. Did this for at least 20mins if not more and this seemed to help a little. The car can now get past 30mph on but still takes alot longer than normal. You have to max out on each gear before changing.

- I got my brother in law to use a reader (Carista) and got the following codes (not a garage I know) :-

OBD2 - confirmed:
P1447
P1351
P2408 - Fuel Cap Sensor/Switch Circuit

OBD2 - pending:
P1162
P0490 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation "A" Control Circuit High
P0299 - Turbocharger/Supercharger "A" Underboost Condition
P1351
P2408 - Fuel Cap Sensor/Switch Circuit

- Took it to the mechanic who advised about the fluid/additive needed replacing, so we did that, but no change.

- Mechanics were not able to 'reset' this and so advised to take it to a specialist. I did so and they quoted me £400-£500 to clean the DPF (Terraclean) and also replace the spark plugs, not sure why though as the car starts without an issue.

The engine management light came on the other day and I remember reading about the fuel cap on the previous discussions, and so I gave it a thorough wipe - no more warning

Car is now on 60K miles.
Can't see anywhere in the paperwork that the 50K topup/service was done

VIN No. is a HZC vin no and I dont know how to find the model of the ECU as i've read that one code can have three meanings dependent on this.

Help!!

Thanks
Irfan

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Tue 11 Jun 2019 13:42
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

First things I can see are faults with the fuel cap sensor (probably lost magnets) and glow plugs.

If they're missing or broken the car won't regen, and the system will slowly get clogged, not just in the DPF, but the EGR valve and turbo.

Anyone can top up the ELOYS additive, but the car's counters needs to be reset with Peugeot Planet. If they're not it won't regenerate.

Google "planet owners map" and get it diagnosed properly.

If you need a new DPF you can get 3rd party ones cheaper from CATS2U.

All your faults are well documented on peuegotforums.com so I'd have a good read up there.

It sounds like you've seriously had your pants pulled down with regards to costs of £500 and Terracleans.

Edited by Gibbo_Wirral on 11/06/2019 at 13:42

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Tue 11 Jun 2019 14:14
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - skidpan

Mechanics were not able to 'reset' this and so advised to take it to a specialist. I did so and they quoted me £400-£500 to clean the DPF (Terraclean) and also replace the spark plugs,

So a specialist advises you to replace spark plugs on a diesel, does he not know diesels do not have them fitted?

With regards to DPF's, are you sure an 03 plate has one. The first diesel we had with a DPF was an 08 plate and when we bought the Ceed in 2010 there were still some in stock that did not have (or need) a DPF. Everything from 01 January 2011 had to be fitted with a DPF under Euro 5 laws so surprised a car 8 years older would need one. We had a 2005 Focus with the same 110 PS engine as your Peugeot and that did not have a DPF but they were fitted from 01 January 2006 under Euro 4 laws since the car would not comply without.

If it has one fitted and its not required simply get it removed by a specialist. But if it is required removal would mean an instant MOT failure.

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Wed 12 Jun 2019 13:25
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

With regards to DPF's, are you sure an 03 plate has one.

Its a 110, so very likely. Only the 90s escaped them

Plus the car is showing fault codes for other components of the DPF system.

A quick look in the rear passenger side wheel arch should confirm it if there's a Eolys tank there.

OP: the fault codes you have missing descriptions are:

P1351 - glow plugs and / or relay

P1447 - differential pressure sensor (to tell if DPF is blocked)

P1162 - stuck EGR valve (probably gummed up with soot)

Edited by Gibbo_Wirral on 12/06/2019 at 13:29

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Tue 18 Jun 2019 11:50
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - IrfanW

Sorry, should have mentioned the full specs, its a '55 plate.and yes its a 110.

If it has one fitted and its not required simply get it removed by a specialist. But if it is required removal would mean an instant MOT failure.
How would I know or find out if one is required or not?

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Tue 18 Jun 2019 11:45
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - IrfanW

I'll have a look again at the fuel cap. I think the magnets are in tact because when i did give it all a clean, the message went immediately.

With regards to glow plugs, if the car has never had any issues starting up and the same in winter or am i missing a trick?

I'm not expert, but when they gave me that figure I wasn't going to blindly accept it!

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Tue 18 Jun 2019 13:32
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

With regards to glow plugs, if the car has never had any issues starting up and the same in winter or am i missing a trick?

Glow plugs are used post starting and for the DPF regen.

Its only in the depths of winter they're used to help start.

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Thu 20 Jun 2019 14:40
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - IrfanW

Thanks for that Gibbo.

I've registered on the site you mentioned, to see if I can find anyone who can run a diagnostics for me.

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Fri 21 Jun 2019 13:36
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

I think it might be me you contacted!

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Tue 2 Jul 2019 23:16
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - IrfanW

So since my last post I had a carbon clean done on the weekend, a fair bit of carbon out of the exhaust etc. Seen a difference on my own car but not the Mrs' Peugeot. Diagnostics/readings came back clear for the DDPF/EGR and pointed towards the fuel cap/fuel cap sensor.

I tried something suggested by another post, to take the fuel cap out and start the car with the other key. Nothing came up on the dash/warning lights. So my question now is, how do i get to the fuel cap sensor, magnets on the cap themselves are fine, no cracks or breaks.

I've searched for videos etc. but or pictures but cant seem to find anything :-(

Help!

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Wed 3 Jul 2019 13:37
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

See here.

https://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/307-38/fuel-cap-warning-19050/

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Wed 3 Jul 2019 13:37
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

And here:

https://www.peugeotforums.com/forums/307-38/diesel-fuel-filling-cap-sensor-info-please-18302/

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Wed 3 Jul 2019 17:21
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - skidpan

Only just spotted your correction.

In the title you say its a 03 110

but later you say

Sorry, should have mentioned the full specs, its a '55 plate.and yes its a 110.

A 55 plate 110 will without doubt have a dpf.

Its surprising how the correct info helps posters give correct replies.

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Thu 4 Jul 2019 13:32
Peugeot 307 - Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 03 110, Anti Pollution - Gibbo_Wirral

Only just spotted your correction.

In the title you say its a 03 110

but later you say

Sorry, should have mentioned the full specs, its a '55 plate.and yes its a 110.

A 55 plate 110 will without doubt have a dpf.

Its surprising how the correct info helps posters give correct replies.

To be honest, if you know Pugs then you'll see from the fault codes in the first post that they relate to the DPF cleaning system.

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