Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

Hi I have a Clio that timing belt snapped and bent some valves I changed them to new skimmed the head new gasket and belt but its I've timmed it several times but is not drawing ant air in I spayed deodorant into air intake as its turning over and nothing going in just blows away any help would be loved

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Peter.N.

You must still have the timing wrong, assuming the valves are closing OK.

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

Dont suppose you have tip on it as all looks good from markings

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - bathtub tom

Could you have the camshaft timing out by 360 degrees?

The camshaft turns at half engine speed - one revolution of the engine turns the cam by half a revolution.

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Peter.N.

You can but it shouldn't make any difference - unless its a very old petrol engine with a distributer.

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - hardway

Did you lock the engine with pins?

or do it by eyeball,

and if you did did remeber cylinder #1 on these engines is at the flywheel end,

not the more usuall crank pully end.

Simple test is lift the top cover off so you can see both valves are closed on cyl#1,

That'll be the flywheel/gearbox end.

t

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Wackyracer
You don't say what engine it is but, If it's the 1.2 16v then you can lock the flywheel at TDC using an 8mm drill through the engine block under the starter motor. The Cam pulley has a mark that lines up with a mark on the rear plate IIRC.
Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Railroad.
If the engine is petrol remove No.1 spark plug and turn the engine so that the piston is at TDC. Remove the cam cover and see if either No.1 & 2, or No.7 & 8 valves are 'on the rock'. If they're not then the valve timing is wrong. No's 1 & 4 pistons move together as well as No's 1 & 4 spark plugs fire together, so it doesn't matter whether you time it up on No.1 or 4.
Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Micky-BO

What ever was the need to get the head skimmed on this vehicle

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

Got it skimmed just because of age save waiting for it to go as everything was off already

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

Thanks will try it tomorrow if weather holds off iv had 2 weeks of with everyone in family cars breaking or getting crashed

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

It's a 1.5 diesel I should learn not to touch diesel never have any luck but needs must

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Wackyracer
There we have it! It makes things much clearer knowing what engine it is.

Did you follow the correct procedure for installing the timing belt?

The correct procedure is here replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt.../
Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

thanks just checked weather for tomorrow looking dry so hopefully have a go tomorrow and let everyone know if it starts of "accidentally" blows up lol

Thanks for the help everyone

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Ncwales

Checked timings again and all spot on tryed starting but it just not even trying so got fed up and pushed it off drive and to roll down hill to bump it but nothing

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - liammcl

forgive me... I'm sure it's not this...
but when my belt snapped and bent a valve...
the motorfactors gave me the wrong size valve...
it was only by checking it next to the original that I found it out !

They gave me the right one to replace the middle one
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Could a wrong size valve, or its seating cause the problem?
or a slightly bent stalk...

I dunno...just a wild guess..

Cheers
Liam

Edited by liammcl on 03/02/2016 at 02:39

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Oli rag

I've heard of cases where the hydraulic tappets "pump up", holding the valves slightly off their seats causing lack of compression.

I think that the wrong grade of oil was the cause. Not sure whether it's anything to do with the problem you have though.

I'd have also suspected that the engine would turn over very quickly with a lack of compression. Is the cranking speed normal?

Renault Clio II - Engine not drawing air in - Peter D

I would not crank it over. You need to remove the crank pulley and inspect the woodruff key, you may have sheared it off. Regards Peter