Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Hello Everyone,

In the market for a 4x4 as we have a large dog we want to keep in the boot. Looking for something sub £5k with FSH, less than 100k on the clock and less than 10 years old. After having a bit of a look about it looks like these 3 options are what I should be looking for, what would you go for out of those 3?

Cheers!

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - RT

There's a Mercedes-Benz ML350 on Auto Trader within your parameters.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Engines too big for me mate and the reviews arent exactly the best to say the least.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Collos25

Its probably a better buy than the three you have mentioned for the money you are willing to pay there will not be a lot life left in them.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Why is it a better buy?

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - SteveLee

Its probably a better buy than the three you have mentioned for the money you are willing to pay there will not be a lot life left in them.

I've had plenty of sub £5,000 cars which have been trouble-free over 100,000+ miles of use - (fluid) service them annually regardless of mileage and don't thrash them cold.

Petrol RAV4 and CRVs can run on to startship milages with nothing more than basic maintenance. I know of two CR-Vs with over 250,000 miles and still going strong,

As long as the car was sound when you bought it and you change fluids and filters regularly (brake fluid every two years on the Honda to halt internal ABS modulator corrosion) there's no reason why they shouldn't last for years.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Avant

At this age of car condition matters more than make or model. Avoid diesel (old diesels can go expensively wrong) and find a petrol - engined model of one of your three choices which has a service history and appears to have been well looked after. They're all good cars and better value than a Mercedes.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - oldtoffee
What Avant said plus maybe look out for a well cared for Subaru Forester?
Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

I would, but I have seen no good examples in my price range unfortunately.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Collos25

I totally agree condition is king at this age and mileage but if you drove a Mercedes the others would be also rans.I personally think all four are rubbish as a vehicle unless you have a special job for one,There are two wheel drive vehicles that will offer far more versatility and be much more economical to buy and run. The. Nissans suffer from expensive engine failures the Hondas suffer clutch and rear drive problems cannot comment on the Toyota never had anything to do with them.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Cheers mate but we need something with an extrememly large and high boot, and me and my wife dont like estates aesthetically. We do go to the country a fair bit so a smaller engined 4x4 makes more sense for us.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Cheers Avant!

From reading up I was going to always go for a petrol as they do seem have a lot of problems with the diesels.

The ML350 from this period has terrible reviews wherever I have looked, it gets a 2 on this website for instance, and build quality seems to be terrible from this period. I dont see why anyone would buy it apart from for the badge on the front personally.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - xtrailman

If youre buying a petrol go for the xtrail 2.5, (or 2.4?) the 2L is gutless.

Of the three the xtrail has the best 4x4 system, look for a SUV this comes with leather and Nav.

Look for a cared for low milage model, with service history, unfortunatly the petrol was only sold in small numbers, so may be hard to find.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Yeah thats exactly what I was looking at, thankfully they seem to be around 2 dozen on autotrader that meet all the criteria! Any other advice regarding the X-Trail? Cheers!

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - madf

Subaru Forester better than any to drive.
Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

Even the 2.0? Just cant afford the extra fuel and insurance costs for the 2.5.....

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - xtrailman

Sorry should have said SVE.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Reentrant

I'm biased as I had a 2004 X-Trail dCi (from new) and recently traded it in for a new one.

The three commonest problems with the original X-Trail:
1) Turbo - but the "bad" version would have failed by now and been replaced with a good one that's fine.
2) Brake caliper slider pins prone to sieze - check disks for even wear
3) Sump gets rusty and porous - be very suspicious of oil on the sump pan.

Other than that it's a great car. I didn't want a CRV because of the dog-unfriendly boot lip.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - kerbed enthusiasm

I run a 2.5 petrol X-trail. I went for petrol because of the (probably exaggerated) tales of diesel woe. It was bought to tow a horse trailer which it does quite happily and I've been glad of the 4x4 system on several occasions already.

Overall, it's a good car but fuel economy is a lingering issue. That said, I'm not complaining: I have a low annual mileage; diesel is currently 8-9p more per litre; I paid significantly less for a used petrol than for a used diesel and I'm not concerned that a turbo might go pop at any moment.

You pays your money and you takes your choice...

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - corax

The Forester boot will be small for a large dog - they are based on the Impreza chassis so not a large car.

Also you won't get much more than 28mpg average, but no petrol 4x4 is particularly frugal. However if you are only doing a small annual mileage it doesn't matter.

You really need to drive all the options to find out which one suits you best, because the reliability isn't much different between any of the petrol versions.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Tommasi

I do very little milage wise, 2000 or so as I work abroad for half the year, and my wife wont be using it for commuting either, itll be for purely social driving. So fuel economy doesnt come into it too much.

Im leaning towards the X-Trail but all options seem to be pretty equal, so we'll just have to test drive all three and see what we think!

Thanks for all the help everyone!

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Happy Blue!

The Forester was sold with a 2.0L engine (X), a 2.0L Turbo (XT - not too extreme just 175bhp) and then in about 2004 the 2.5L turbo (also XT). I drove the two 2.0L engine models, both auto and both with more than adquate poke.

They were far better built that the OP's suggestions and a 2003 XT will be a very nice car. It is also a bit lower than the others so easier for the dog to jump into, but not so low that you feel you are in a regular car.

Autotrader has many examples at less than £5,000 with less than 100,000 miles. All look to be in sound order.

Edited by Happy Blue! on 02/01/2014 at 18:45

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - davros

Driving through Dijon last summer I stopped behind a very striking Geneva-registered 1950s-vintage Rolls Royce (Silver Wraith??), yellow over v. dark green, white-wall tyres, perfect chrome and absolutely immaculate.

The only occupant in the rear was a piebald Great Dane who seemed to be enjoying the ride, although he was slobbering copiously over the open windows (it was HOT). His humans were squeezed into the chauffeur’s compartment at the front…he looked very comfortable (he had enough space to sit up in it).

My BiL has a 65kg Swiss Mountain Dog who until recently was transported in the rear of a Legacy Spec B. BiL is an “enthusiastic” driver – to the point at which my sister insisted he think about a more sensible dog wagon. She was thinking an SUV, or maybe a big Mercedes. He bought an Audi RS6..... I think Juvé (the dog) will need a padded suit in the back of that.

BTW, on topic, as Happy Blue says, a Forrester XT isa hoot to drive and won't let you down. That said, the rear of a Forrester is smaller (in terms of m2) than a Legacy / Outback (a squeeze for two Lab-sized dogs), probably OK for a Dane or similar because it has good head room. Sadly, even a Legacy is too high now for my two oldies to jump into (16 and 17 years old) - worth remembering that when considering an X-trail or similar.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - RT

Any enthusiastically driven model needs a small space for animals, just enough room to turn round - they get thrown allover the place in bigger cars!

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - oldtoffee
I have a Mondeo estate with a dog guard and a 50/50 boot divider that's gives my 30 kg labradoodle enough room to relax and stretch and should do until he reaches his 42 to 45 kg max. That frees half the boot which is usually plenty although this Xmas I needed a roof box to make it work for the extended family and pooch. I fancied a bigger Superb estate but the Mondeo was miles cheaper and only a bit smaller.
Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - christo

Our Border Collie is fine with our 2005 Honda CRV and leaps in with enthusasm every time wondering where she is going! If your dog is unable to leap in there are ramps avalaible to assist their egress.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - bananastand

I was happy with 29mpg from my deceased Vectra 3.2 so I'm considering an X-trail amongst others. What can I squeeze into my budget of up to £2500, with leather, to tow a caravan? A lot of the heavier cars and 4x4s in petrol guise seem to come nowhere near the Vectra on economy.

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - Ethan Edwards

Have owned a 2003 2.5ltr auto Xtrail from new. In fact I just traded it in for a Qashqai last friday (picking the new vehicle up in two weeks). IMO the XT's an excellent choice. As previous posters have said check the sump plate for mysterious oil blobs as the thin plate has been known to perforate through rust.

Other things to look for...

Also listen out for noisy wheel bearings on your test drive. If you decide to buy one thats been LPG converted (like mine) make sure it was flash lubed from the start otherwise do get a compression test done as they are prone to valve issues on LPG. Mines been done harder valve seats etc so the next owners getting a good 'un. Fairly bullet proof in most other respects. Oh and mine has a s/s exhaust so again a winner for the next owner. They have two cats one under the floor and one near the manifold (dubbed the mani-cat). This has been known to crumble with age and the resultant debris gets lunched by the engine and suddenly you need a new engine....reportedly thats rare though. Best of luck .

Nissan X-Trail - X-Trail 2004 Vs RAV4 2004 Vs CR-V 2004 - skidpan

In the market for a 4x4 as we have a large dog we want to keep in the boot. Looking for something sub £5k with FSH, less than 100k on the clock and less than 10 years old.

What you want is a large estate car and not a 4 x 4. The large estate will be much easier for the dog to get into and will cost much less to run. For the same money you will get a much newer car.

Look at Mondeo's, Vectras etc but don't forget the Kia Ceed, for your budget you should get one with some warranty left.