alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - mossop

Just changed the front tyres on my 2.2 brera coupe and note the dealer has replaced the original Pirelli Zero Nero 235/40/ZR19 Load rated 96Y with Pirelli Zero 235/40/ZR19 Load Rated 92Y. These are a more expensive tyre but the load rating is less than recomended in the manufacturers handbook - is this a problem? Hope you can help?

Regards John Fitz

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - Simon

I wouldn't worry too much, on a car the speed rating is more important than the load index by my reckoning. If it was a bigger vehicle, such as a tow car or a light commercial then yes the load index would be more important and should be at least equivalent to the original spec.

No doubt someone will disagree with me though...

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - skidpan

If the OEM factory fit tyres were 96 load rating and speed rating Y and they have been replaced with load rating 92 and speed rating Y you have a problem. Should you have an accident your insurers will very possibly refuse to pay out on your claim.

If I were you I would insist that the garage replce them with tyres of the correct spec. If they refuse check with your insurers and see if they will still cover you with lower rated tyres.

There is also a strong possibility that if you were involved in a serious accident and a tyre was to blame you would be prosecuted.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - Simon

A 92 load index gives you 630kg per tyre, which with four tyres gives you a weight limit of 2520kg. Your car will weight around 1500kg, so unless you are going to load the car up with 1000kg of people and luggage, you are unlikely to exceed the capacity of the tyres.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - skidpan

A 92 load index gives you 630kg per tyre, which with four tyres gives you a weight limit of 2520kg. Your car will weight around 1500kg, so unless you are going to load the car up with 1000kg of people and luggage, you are unlikely to exceed the capacity of the tyres.

Unfortunately it does not work like that. The manufacturer specifies the load rating, the owner cannot decide to change simply because it appears that a cheaper tyre will do the job.

The load rating is not simply a static measurement, there is far more to it than that. Manufacturers employ engineers to carry out these calculations, its is not something you can change by simply adding four numbers together on a beermat.

Your four tyres are your cars only connection with the road. Buying cheaper tyres with is lower load rating may save a few pounds but could end up costing you far more.

Don't tell people to do what is unsafe.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - Collos25

From what I read they ony need "w" rated tyres on a 2.2 .there are also five models of tyre in this type.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - thunderbird

All cars are homologated with a range of wheels and tyres dependant upon engine and trim spec. 15" or 18" they will have pretty much the same speed and load rating. If you upgrade it is normally acceptable provided that the new tyres have at least the same speed and load rating but any change form the factory fit needs telling to your insurers.

Downrating for either speed or load rating is not acceptable except for winter tyres where insurers will normally allow you to drop down a speed rating provided its still above the max speed of the car. Considering that the differences in price between a H and V rated tyres are tiny and likewise the difference between a 92 and 96 rated tyre are tiny (on Camskills site a Continetal 96Y is £7.80 more than a 92Y) you would have to be clinically insane not to match the OEM spec.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - RT

All cars are homologated with a range of wheels and tyres dependant upon engine and trim spec. 15" or 18" they will have pretty much the same speed and load rating. If you upgrade it is normally acceptable provided that the new tyres have at least the same speed and load rating but any change form the factory fit needs telling to your insurers.

Downrating for either speed or load rating is not acceptable except for winter tyres where insurers will normally allow you to drop down a speed rating provided its still above the max speed of the car. Considering that the differences in price between a H and V rated tyres are tiny and likewise the difference between a 92 and 96 rated tyre are tiny (on Camskills site a Continetal 96Y is £7.80 more than a 92Y) you would have to be clinically insane not to match the OEM spec.

Unlike some countries, there's no requirement in the UK to fit speed rated tyres to match original specification, nor indeed to match the car's top speed.

As long as the tyres are speed rated for at least 70 mph then the legal requirement is met - common sense requires at least the top speed to be covered but it's not a legal requirement.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - skidpan

Unlike some countries, there's no requirement in the UK to fit speed rated tyres to match original specification, nor indeed to match the car's top speed.

There may be no legal requirement in the UK if you start reading to law to the letter but that does not stop any insurance assessor and the Police checking the tyres after an accident.

What is better, arguing the point in court or simply spening a few extra pounds on the correct spec tyres.

It not like we are talking hunreds of pounds here, H or V for my car makes about a tenner for a set of 4.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - Wackyracer

While speed and weight ratings of tyres are not part of the MOT test, The motor vehicles regulations 2001 state the following

6. Each wheel on each axle shall be equipped with a tyre which has a load capacity such that when the axle is loaded to its maximum permitted axle weight, the weight transmitted to the road surface by that tyre does not exceed that load capacity.

7. The speed capability of all tyres fitted shall be not less than the maximum design speed of the vehicle.

So I'd say you'd likely get a penalty for it, If someone in the know spots them.

Edited by Wackyracer on 26/12/2013 at 14:15

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - mossop

While speed and weight ratings of tyres are not part of the MOT test, The motor vehicles regulations 2001 state the following

6. Each wheel on each axle shall be equipped with a tyre which has a load capacity such that when the axle is loaded to its maximum permitted axle weight, the weight transmitted to the road surface by that tyre does not exceed that load capacity.

7. The speed capability of all tyres fitted shall be not less than the maximum design speed of the vehicle.

So I'd say you'd likely get a penalty for it, If someone in the know spots them.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - mossop

While speed and weight ratings of tyres are not part of the MOT test, The motor vehicles regulations 2001 state the following

6. Each wheel on each axle shall be equipped with a tyre which has a load capacity such that when the axle is loaded to its maximum permitted axle weight, the weight transmitted to the road surface by that tyre does not exceed that load capacity.

7. The speed capability of all tyres fitted shall be not less than the maximum design speed of the vehicle.

So I'd say you'd likely get a penalty for it, If someone in the know spots them.

Thank you all for your replies - area which seems to be a bit of a mindfield. For information I have contacted my insurance co and Police and both have confirmed that tyres are acceptable (well within car weight limits) and are legal and will not result in any potential prosecution. Also note that I have not been charged the premium price for these tyres over the much cheaper P Zero Nero tyres.

alfa romeo brera - tyre load markings - Simon

Thank you all for your replies - area which seems to be a bit of a mindfield. For information I have contacted my insurance co and Police and both have confirmed that tyres are acceptable (well within car weight limits) and are legal and will not result in any potential prosecution. Also note that I have not been charged the premium price for these tyres over the much cheaper P Zero Nero tyres.

Which is basically what I said in my posts (second and fourth ones in the thread). Its makes a pleasant change to hear the follow up to the dilemma unlike so many posts on here.

As per normal though, many others think that they always know better after reading some article in a motoring magazine or some waffle that they have read on an internet forum. Common sense goes out of the window.

I haven't spent all these years in the motor trade to learn nothing...