Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - Firmbutfair

Close inspection of the latest UK website published data (October 2013) for the 1242 cc '120 gm/km' 60 PS and 82 PS Ford Fiesta engines strongly suggests that customers are being taken for an expensive ride. It appears that the 'entry level' models for each level of trim are only available with the low power engine even though the 'standard' (higher power) engine is (probably) mechanically identical to the low power version and only a different engine management mapping (and maybe some restriction to partially 'choke' the airflow into the low power version) separates the two. That is to say they are charging £500 extra for a different software or firmware mapping in the ECU. The data show that the low power 60 PS (artificially 'limited' engine) offers much slower acceleration and lower top speed but identical official government fuel economy and CO2 figures so there is no VED advantage for the low power version. However the performance (and £500 price difference) is sufficient to bump up the insurance group from 4 to 7 for the 82 PS version. This pricing policy has an impact on driver safety and a large impact on popularity and therefore resale value – so in fact you are being bullied into choosing the high power engine since nobody wants the low power version. Therefore the adverts that say 'From £xxxy' etc are grossly misleading – why can Ford not be honest, stop messing about and just offer one engine variant namely the original standard engine and adjust their prices accordingly?

I suspect that similar examples can be found from other manufactures but how can this artificial price hike be justified? It is also clear that some manufacturers do not adopt this questionable 'sales brochure' approach and offer the full specification engine even in the entry level models.

Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - gordonbennet

Vote with feet, only buy cars from makers who treat their customers with respect and stand by their product more than 5 minutes.

Whilst people accept such things and still buy (or vote for as certain political parties are just as bad) into such deals they'll just carry on.

Worth looking up Jackie Mason (Jewish comedian, very funny in his day) on youtube and watching/listening to his Starbucks routine, the parallels should provoke thought.

Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - Firmbutfair

Thanks Gordon - I will look up Mr Mason as you suggest - I could do with a good laugh!

Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - bathtub tom

It used to be the same with early editions of the BMW 'mini'. Cooper performance could be had for a few quid by changing the ECU.

Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - Auristocrat

Isn't this similar to VAG, where they offer two different versions of the 1.2 engine in the Polo/Ibiza/Fabia - a 60bhp and a 70bhp version. However the price differential is more.

Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - Firmbutfair

I would recommend that every customer tells the dealer that he knows that the 82 PS version actually costs 'the company' no more than the 60PS version and that if the sale is to go ahead then an additional £500 discount must be offered, or its equivalent, in the form of say a fully comprehensive 3 year routine servicing plan at no extra cost - oh and rubber mats through out plus a real spare wheel instead of a useless aerosol aswell !!!

Edited by Firmbutfair on 29/10/2013 at 10:53

Ford Fiesta - Charging £500+ extra for 'standard' engine - skidpan

This is called marketing, all manufacturers have been doing it since Adam was a lad in one form or another.

They advertise an "entry" level model that no will will ever buy and no dealer will ever stock just to have a low starting price and get you into the showroom.

Its the same with any extras on a car, they cost peanuts compared to the price charged.

If you are not happy with that don't buy a car,