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Fri 4 Oct 2013 01:56

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - Grimson2452

Hi new to the fourm so apologises if this is in the wrong section.

Been looking at a new BMW 1 series I wanted a 116i but the dealer is currently offering me a pre registered 114i with 5 years servicing and a comfort package for £17,885 is this a good deal or could I get it for a bit less

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 09:29

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - skidpan

Why not do what I would have to do to answer your question. That is search the on-line brokers and ring round (or visit) other dealers.

I am not going to do your hard work for you, do it yourself.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 11:22

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - dan86

Personally I feel a BMW should bee no less than 2000cc and six cylinders. Might as well get a golf if your getting anything less. But that is juat my opinion.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 17:43

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - corax

Personally I feel a BMW should bee no less than 2000cc and six cylinders. Might as well get a golf if your getting anything less. But that is juat my opinion.

Unfortunately BMW is moving away from six cylinders, so there will be no choice but to buy a four cylinder if you want a new model.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 21:06

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - dan86

Iv had a few old BMWs and I loved them I had a 1986 325 and a 1991 325 automatic and they were both brilliant to drive I also had a 1997 530 but nouthing in the current line up or anything from this century makes me want one. Except for the Z4 but I cant fathom why

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 11:50

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - Grimson2452

Thank you for your warm welcome. I was not asking anyone to do my leg work for me I have been looking round dealers and online brokers all ready. I was simply asking for an opinion on the deal

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 12:52

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - galileo

That is a lot of money to invest in a car. Unless you really want that badge on the front there are other makes and models which would perhaps be better value, it all depends what you personally want in a car.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 14:30

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - oldtoffee

Looks a little high to me but only by £500 or so. Rather than spend £200 in travel costs to save £500 by taking yourself off to the wild north, I'd ask for some money off the price or £500 towards the winter wheels and tyres you'll soon be needing.

Trouble is that prospective BMW 1 series owners want a BMW, badly, are going to buy one and the dealer knows that so you'll struggle to get much of a deal off them especially if the 114 has offers attached. That kind of money for an entry level 1 series will get you a much higher spec and engined alternative, for example Golf or Focus but not the perceived kudos.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 14:37

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - Grimson2452

Thank you for the help going to have a word with them tomorrow and continue to look round at other cars.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 15:35

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - gordonbennet

Think the 1 series at that price is good value, IF you prefer a RWD car and enjoy the differences (i do), relatively short makers warranty but you can usually pre-buy a service package at just about the best value for any makes which levels the playing field somewhat.

The one thing that puts me off modern BMW's is the runflat situation, or is there an option to go normal tyres with 1 series, been a while since i carried any and can't remember if they have a spare wheel well.

3 Series compact you could have some nice sensible tyres, 205/55 x 16 ISTR which were quite comfortable and very reasonably priced, and much better than the elastic band trend when snow fell....hope a similar option is available on 1 series.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 16:42

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - thunderbird

Got a 118d and love it. Recently looked at a new 116i as it looked like a good replacement but I simply cannot work out if its good value or not. It drives fine with sufficient power but only just

One thing I know for sure is there is no way I would buy a 114i even if it was the best offer on the planet. 116PS is simply not enough power in a car that weighs the same as a small moon, its not that torqey or economical either. I have not driven one but based on my experience with the 116i it expect it would be a slug, and probably a very uneconomical one if you had to thrash it all the time.

To me the 114i is only there to get people in the showroom, after they drive it they hope the buyer will spend more on a propper car.

No car is a bargain it you are unhappy with it, as I say I am not sure if I would be happy with the 116i thus pretty sure I would hate the 114i.

But if you like it buy it, my 118d appears to have retained almost 41% of its value after 5 1/2 years which is really good plus its cost very little to service.

Currently looking into the Volvo V40, trouble is its more expensive than the BMW.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 17:04

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - daveyK_UK

Why dont you get a new Mazda 3 for similar money?
Looks a far better car, the reviews are raving about them.

If I was going to spend £17,000 on a small hatchback, the 1 series would not be top of the list.
Focus
Civic
Mazda 3
i30
A class

I cant wait to try the new Mazda 3, very tempted.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 19:36

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - Bobbin Threadbare

Why dont you get a new Mazda 3 for similar money? Looks a far better car, the reviews are raving about them. If I was going to spend £17,000 on a small hatchback, the 1 series would not be top of the list. Focus Civic Mazda 3 i30 A class I cant wait to try the new Mazda 3, very tempted.

I also like the look of them - I'm a fan of Mazda and the new 3 could well be a contender for my next car.

114i? You might as well walk. 100hp ish on a car that's probably close to 1.5 tonnes; bet it's sluggish.

Quick look up says it's also a £125 VED, which is certainly beatable by a lot of the newer hatches on the roads.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 20:40

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - misar

Why dont you get a new Mazda 3 for similar money? Looks a far better car, the reviews are raving about them.

Good advice. You can have the very latest 2.0-litre 120ps SE Nav unregistered for £17,595. I seriously considered a 1 Series and bought the 2009 3 instead. Very nice car, loaded with extras and far nicer looking. Unless you are obsessed with the badge it is a no brainer. Pricing the BMW extras to get up to a similar spec was an eye opener for me. And for the record the 3 is also really nice to drive and more comfortable.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 21:35

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - gordonbennet

Mazda 3 and the others mentioned are just more of the same in the long modern history of cloned FWD hatchbacks...which is great if you want a FWD hatchback.

If you want a RWD car and the enjoyable (without driving like an idiot) driving experience it brings you're stuck with BMW or a real MB in other words not A or B series which arn't.

Nothing wrong with FWD's, they do all you want they look nice (in your eyes, not mine) and they appear to be reasonable value compared with the asking price of the BMW.

The problem here is that you're comparing apples and pears.

Several mentions above of how sluggish this BMW is going to be, all from people who haven't driven it, nor have i. You cannot go purely by bhp figures, its how the car behaves how its set up and how it delivers the power that makes all the difference, my own experience of BMW's is that they have always got an awful lot of oomph from relatively small engines, it might surprise in the flesh.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 22:07

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - misar

Mazda 3 and the others mentioned are just more of the same in the long modern history of cloned FWD hatchbacks...which is great if you want a FWD hatchback.

If you want a RWD car and the enjoyable (without driving like an idiot) driving experience it brings you're stuck with BMW or a real MB in other words not A or B series which arn't.

Nothing wrong with FWD's, they do all you want they look nice (in your eyes, not mine) and they appear to be reasonable value compared with the asking price of the BMW.

The problem here is that you're comparing apples and pears.

I thought the same as you regarding rear wheel drive until I hesitantly bought my first FWD in 1996 - a 2.5l V6 Mondeo. I then realised the world had moved on. 99.9% of drivers today would not be able to guess whether they were driving front or rear drive. Given the 102 psi of a 1.4i BMW, nobody would notice any perceptable benefit of RWD unless they were driving it like an idiot.

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Fri 4 Oct 2013 23:35

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - Bobbin Threadbare

If I were the sort of person who went for badge and wanted a Beamer, I'd expect it to be a flaming great monster of a car, RWD or not (there's been another thread discussing that this week and it really is hard to tell on a regular vehicle!) even if it was a little hatchback. I wouldn't want to be paying BMW's prices for a C-sgement hatchback if I could get a decent drive and gadgets for less, with cheaper parts and servicing probably. I don't care whether it's FWD or RWD.

Now the Porsche Panamera RWD hatch would probably go like stink. Toyota are planning a RWD hatch apparently but it seems to be aimed at the American market.

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Sat 5 Oct 2013 09:29

BMW 1 Series - 1 series good or bad deal - skidpan

I had a 118d for 5 years, great car. The 143 PS was adequate, a 114i with 115PS would be a slug.

Recently changed it for a new Mk3 Seat Leon 1.4TSi. 140PS and less weight than a 1 series makes for a quick car and with 184lbs/ft of torque between 1500 and 3500 rpm it has diesel like pick up in the gears. Also has diesel like economy, a genuine calculated 46mpg so far in the usual mixed motoring, over 52 mpg on one longish run. £30 a year RFL is a good saving over most similar petrols as well. Taking petrol/diesel fuel price into account my running costs are virtually identical comape#ared to the 118d, not bad for a petrol.

It rides far better than the 1 series, has a bigger boot and better rear space plus it a lot easier to get into.

Best bit was the price, brand new £15000 on the road. No extras necessary,it has all the kit as standard.

Do I miss the 1 series, not really.

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