Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - japanrustybucket

Hi all i need to buy tyres for my rusty + hail bucket car , its japanese, lexus gs 350 2016 face lift size 19. Car is non f sport package ,can i use other size or i need to stick to 235 40 19? I think that was size ?
Tyres are very expensive, i demand the best from my car so help me choose,
here are options i like and i,am considering:
Bridgestone t006 turanza - cheap non sporty tyre i was not happy from t005 cracked very fast,
bridgestone potenza,sport. - i never driven with this
michelin pilot sport 5 - i never driven but with 4 and 4s i have driven my. Old gs 450h it was great tyre, not sure if 5 is worse or better.
Continental premium contact 7? I never driven some people complain tyre wear is very high....
good year. Eagle asymetric 5 or 6 not sure,what is best and latest? I never driven too , and finally pirelli p zero 4 or 5th gen? I never driven too please advice. Which one you drive and like the most i plan to drive 5 or 10 years with these .

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - badbusdriver

No knowledge on those specific tyres, but some general points/obseravtions.

Re other tyre sizes. If sticking to the original wheels, while in theory you can choose a different size, I'm not sure there would be much benefit in price or ride comfort. The need to keep approx the same circumference for speedometer accuracy and gearing, along with having to fit on your wheels means the "smaller" tyre wouldn't be much smaller (and therefore probably not much cheaper. Using a comparison tool, I see 215/45 x 19 has more or less the same circumference (+0.8%).

If changing to a smaller wheel, you have more options which would mean cheaper tyres offering better ride comfort (but you would need to ensure adequate clearance over brake components) If going down an inch you could use 215/50 x 18. If going down another inch, you could use 215/55 x 17 or 235/50 x 17.

But I also can't help wondering, given you seem to be describing it as both rusty and a bucket, whether you should be either driving it hard or spending circa £1000 on premium tyres for it.

You also don't seem to be aware of the fundamental contradiction in looking for tyres which provide maximum grip/roadholding and offer a long life. High performance tyres by their very nature are going to use softer rubber to provide maximum grip, which is obviously going to mean a higher wear rate. If you want a tyre which is going to last as long as possible, you need to be looking at tyres which are not so performance orientated, but also you need to be driving in a more sedate manner when it comes to acceleration, cornering and braking.

One other point is that if changing from original tyre size, you should inform your insurer.

Edited by badbusdriver on 26/04/2025 at 08:46

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - japanrustybucket

Hi car new costed around 100k, right now car cost around 20k gbp, it have hail damage and some rust, and some other issues as i mentioned previously i demand the best from my car and my summer tyres i dont like winter tyres in the summer or all season tyres or chinese knock off.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Orb>>.

It is hard to advise you as we don't know where you are. Tyres will wear differently in hot climates and or desert conditions. 100.000 what ? if your car is typically 30% dearer wherever you are, maybe tyres etc are dearer too.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - japanrustybucket

I am in Europe, and i need the best summer tyres, i drive my ultra luxury car not so often but i demand the best from it i also have older 40 years old 2nd car which i drive daily.

i drive luxury car in highway and on better roads its sedan car not suv so no desert or climbing. yes tyres are extremely expensive since they are 19 inch.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Adampr

I'm guessing you're the guy who asks about which cars have 40 way adjustable seats and laser guidance all the time, in which case I'm wasting my time even typing this.

However, in theory, the best summer tyres for a car are the OE. As I understand it, Lexus use Yokohama tyres and previously used Bridgestone. The best thing to do is contact.Lexis and ask what they recommend, or just take the car to a dealer and ask them to.put the correct tyres on for you

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - badbusdriver

If your car cost the equivalent of £20k and has hail damage, I'd have to assume that price is below market value compared to an un-damaged car of the same age. That in turn would suggest to me the car could be 2015-2018 (particularly if above average miles) and if so I'd be concerned about the presence of rust on a Lexus of that age and value. It suggests poorly repaired accident damage.

In addition, a GS350 of that sort of age (4th gen, 2012-2020) is a fairly hefty 1700kg car. So following up what I said earlier re tyre life, if you are driving a car of that weight hard, especially on sticky performance tyres, you could easily wear them out in well under 2 years. But regardless of what brand or type of tyre you get, if you drive the car hard you've no chance of getting anywhere near 10 years out of them.

i dont like winter tyres in the summer or all season tyres or chinese knock off.

The only other thing I'm going to add is re the above comment. There isn't just one step from premium rubber like you've mentioned down cheap Chinese "ditchfinders". There are other "mid range" brands, in some cases owned by the premium ones, which should at least be considered. As an example, when I looked on Ebay at prices for the tyre size and brands you mentioned, Fulda was one which came up and was described as being "Fulda Sport by Goodyear".

One last point is that it is very much worthwhile looking up tyre reviews before deciding.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - japanrustybucket

Brand new tyres for the car was dunlop sport or something like that,, they are junk i throw them to the bin long time ago...Car without hail damage currently cost at least 30k or more, brand new costed at least 60-70k depends on the specs.My older car which is 40 years old cost 500gbp, which i drive daily.

Yes 20k is below market value yes, due to the hail this is how i got the car used for little less. i dont plan to repair the hail as long as it doesnt create for me more issues repair people told me insane prices for pdr + repaint of the whole car so i decided to drive it like that.

car is 2016 face lifted model with ultra luxury specs all options available. non f sport because i love soft ride not firm, i am close to retirement now, not 20 years old person.

car is at exactly 50k miles, i also service it always with genuine parts and stuff, and only the best for it,About car weight you are right 1700kg, my previous hybrid was exactly 2000 kg / or 2100 i dont remember 2 tons is quite a heavy car... Rust on the car is due to the hail damage, car was badly hail damaged broken window glass, all paint , etcs... rust is not topic for here its just tyres, i bought car a little cheaper with all of these defects, i am fine with them.Car never had a single accident it was paid by insurance at 100% due to the huge hail damage, all broken windows + paint badly damaged and cracked everywhere. car is like golf ball. I just want to remind once again, i dont drive that car everyday, i already have daily driver car , this car i will drive when i feel and when i want. For the last 3 years car was sitting under underground parking place and it was driven 000 miles. Now i think i need to start it and drive it, during this time a lot of car was repaired, every year fresh oil was changed original + filter, brand new floor mats was added, brand new battery was added and charged every month. AGM , only the best, from usa exide. i already read a lot of tyre reviews but i am so lost so many brands so many options,

i just want the best , do you think if i go with Good year or continental , due to their better price vs michelin it will be big mistake?

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - badbusdriver

do you think if i go with Good year or continental , due to their better price vs michelin it will be big mistake?

Still not 100% sure on how you drive the car?. Some previous comments have made me think that you are driving the car hard, but the fact you prefer a soft ride suggests not.

You may be overthinking it because i doubt there would be a huge difference in performance between tyres which are competing against each other in the market place. Driven absolutely flat out on a series of corners, you may notice a slight difference, but not otherwise. Personally, I would go for whichever is the cheapest of the tyres you mentioned.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - japanrustybucket

Car have several modes and variable suspention sport , comfort sport + etcs...

of course since its over 300hp you cant drive it with 10miles specially on highway i drive it hard and fast thats normal for fast car. I dont keep car at sport or sport + all the time only when i need to pass someone fast. other than that i am using normal or comfort mode...

there is a good difference in performance in stoping in aqua planing , in wet and in dry braking with all of these brands yes, currently car have brand new chinese tyres this is how i bought it but i dont like them they are dangerous, they cant climb even, steep hill. so i plan to throw them or donate them. what tyres do you have currently?

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Orb>>.

I have replaced my OE tyres with Kormoran a subsidiary of Michelin.

Michelin owns the BFGoodrich, Kleber, Tigar, Riken, Kormoran and Uniroyal

Does the job for me at a vastly lower price.

Your size UK price £89.00

www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre/kormoran-ultra-high-performa...E

Edited by Orb>>. on 27/04/2025 at 10:54

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - skidpan

Michelin owns the BFGoodrich, Kleber, Tigar, Riken, Kormoran and Uniroyal

Continental owns Uniroyal. Excellent tyres.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - mcb100
I can’t help but suspect you are massively overthinking this.
In test track conditions, with accurate data gathering equipment, and a skilled driver, you may discern a marginal difference between equivalent tyres from the major brands.
Goodyear all season on my car. They’re round, black, hold air and uneventfully get me up and down the country.
Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Maxime.
I can’t help but suspect you are massively overthinking this. In test track conditions, with accurate data gathering equipment, and a skilled driver, you may discern a marginal difference between equivalent tyres from the major brands. Goodyear all season on my car. They’re round, black, hold air and uneventfully get me up and down the country.

Yes, correct, but it'll take a lot of us to advise advice that won't be taken anyway.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Orb>>.

Sometimes it takes a bit of time to think things through and putting them down in words (or on a forum) helps to make a decision. I am sure the OP wil get where he wants,

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - badbusdriver

Car have several modes and variable suspention sport , comfort sport + etcs...

Not really relevant as none of the modes change how heavy the car is or how much power it has.

of course since its over 300hp you cant drive it with 10miles specially on highway

Don't understand this statement?

i drive it hard and fast thats normal for fast car. I dont keep car at sport or sport + all the time only when i need to pass someone fast. other than that i am using normal or comfort mode...

Sport mode may make the car react quicker but that will make virtually no difference to the stresses being applied to the tyre. I'm also not sure I'd agree that it is "normal" to drive a fast car hard and fast.

there is a good difference in performance in stoping in aqua planing , in wet and in dry braking with all of these brands

There can be a big difference in braking, accelerating and cornering performance in wet and/or cold conditions between premium brands and cheap Chinese tyres, but not between premium brands themselves (assuming the tyres are competing directly with each other, rather than one being specifically designed to excel in wet conditions). However, any performance advantage premium tyres have over cheap Chinese ones in warm and dry conditions is much smaller.

As for aquaplaning, that has less to do with how cheap or otherwise the tyre is and more to do with tread depth and how well the tread design can disperse water.

currently car have brand new chinese tyres this is how i bought it but i dont like them they are dangerous, they cant climb even, steep hill. so i plan to throw them or donate them.

If the road surface is unpaved, covered with loose chippings or the surface was wet and the tarmac was of particularly poor quality, i could see a powerful rwd car struggling to climb a steep hill (which wouldn't be the fault of the tyre) But I can't think why a tyre being cheap would make any difference to its ability to climb a steep hill in the dry?.

what tyres do you have currently?

Not relevant as I drive a 4wd diesel pickup (but Yokohama Geolanders if you are interested)

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - gordonbennet

Not relevant as I drive a 4wd diesel pickup (but Yokohama Geolanders if you are interested)

Aha, did i miss something BBD, pray tell about the pick up, of which i'm a fan of most, i thought you had the little Paggoni or whatever it was.

As for tyres, i too am on Yokos on my old Landcruiser, GO15 for anyone interested which have proved to be a thoroughly decent all rounder and would happily buy again.

Just like the OP i have electrically adjustable damping on the LC, which, yes you guessed it, includes a 'sport' setting :-) a veritable road rocket with its 1G cornering ability i tell you, not.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - badbusdriver

Not relevant as I drive a 4wd diesel pickup (but Yokohama Geolanders if you are interested)

Aha, did i miss something BBD, pray tell about the pick up, of which i'm a fan of most, i thought you had the little Paggoni or whatever it was.

Combination of things GB.

1, The Piaggio has a mechanical problem. 2, SWMBO expressed concern as to how well I'd fare in an accident in said tiny truck (though to be fare, it was prying on my mind too!). 3, SWMBO will not be getting back behind the wheel of a car.

So it was decided that putting the Motability car back, retiring the Piaggio, and getting something which can be used both for my work and as a car would be the best way forward (and the Mobility payment will help with extra running costs).

But the pickup in question is a 2016 L200

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Adampr

Getting back to answering the question, this suggests that Michelin Pilot Sport 5 or Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 is the best summer tyre.

www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tests/2025-Auto-Bild-Summ...m

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - gordonbennet

But the pickup in question is a 2016 L200

Good choice BBD, we'll be comparing rustproofing techniques no doubt in further threads, my methods saw another straight non advisory MOT pass last week, tester reckons it'll go n for ever, so here's to another 20 years (more chance of seeing another 20 than me)

I'm much of the same opinion as your fair lady and yourself, need something fairly robust these days in the roads.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - japanrustybucket

i drive car for Fun, and good times, i already have car with c***py bridgestone tyres with cracks where they are small in size and where i dont care much.

On steep hill, where my previous parking place was, trust me with chinese tyres even on completely summer days and dry car cant climb the hill, i requested tow truck to tow me....... and now i wait a little and i will finally get some decent tyres i am tired of chinese junk, everything from china is junk i order brand new cable and it brakes, i order blender brand new and it brakes or it doesnt work, so far not a single chinese thing is ok. for diesel and 4wd cars trucks tyres doesnt matter.

For rwd tyres are extremely important.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Engineer Andy

Other than what's already been said, I'd strongly suggest you visit the Tyre Reviews website:

www.tyrereviews.com/

Yes, it's European-biased for what's offered, but it is excellent in my view, very comprehensive, has its own tests, mirrors many tyre test from the top magazines (in Europe) and also has end-user reviews with ranked scores by car, tyre size, how the car is driven, etc, all of which may give some clue for your specific situation.

Note that the end-user reviews, and some extent scores they are based on overall, are obviously biased to some degree because us users will have biases, plus some people review them only after a few thousand miles or they may have a very different car or driving style to yours - OR they may have had a bad personal experience with a tyre fitter outfit and that might put them off the tyres fitted to their car.

I would note that what works for one person or car doesn't for another. Equally, you can easily find a make that worked well matched to cars of a certain make, model or type (e.g. FWD /RWD/ 4x4) on a previously sold tyre from a brand, but doesn't any more, because they significantly changed the design of the tyre. Or the other way around.

I've experienced that myself, using tyres from the same make (at different times) on two cars, where one worked well, the other definitely did not. Even 'expensive' brands like Michelin can produce 'duffers' occasionally, including those with a manufacturing fault or where they were stored incorrectly by the tyre fitter.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Ethan Edwards

Guys, if you do know of a tyre that grips the road like an ex wife to your wallet, is whisper quiet, costs pennies and lasts a 100,000 miles or ten years.

Do let me know as I'll buy some.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 28/04/2025 at 14:32

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Engineer Andy

Guys, if you do know of a tyre that grips the road like an ex wife to your wallet, is whisper quiet, costs pennies and lasts a 100,000 miles or ten years.

Do let me know as I'll buy some.

Unobtainium UltraGrip EcoSlients. Only available to gold-tier clients of Costco who've spent more than £50k p.a. in store... ;-)

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Orb>>.

Guys, if you do know of a tyre that grips the road like an ex wife to your wallet, is whisper quiet, costs pennies and lasts a 100,000 miles or ten years.

Do let me know as I'll buy some.

Unobtainium UltraGrip EcoSlients. Only available to gold-tier clients of Costco who've spent more than £50k p.a. in store... ;-)

Are we allowed some please? we spend more than that a year, sadly (or not) in Costco.

Best summer tyres for sedan car please advice? - Engineer Andy

Guys, if you do know of a tyre that grips the road like an ex wife to your wallet, is whisper quiet, costs pennies and lasts a 100,000 miles or ten years.

Do let me know as I'll buy some.

Unobtainium UltraGrip EcoSlients. Only available to gold-tier clients of Costco who've spent more than £50k p.a. in store... ;-)

Are we allowed some please? we spend more than that a year, sadly (or not) in Costco.

On SUVs? ;-) ((Chuckle))