Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Steveieb
The decision to build the new X Trail does not come as a complete surprise.
With the Nissan Board reported as wishing to take back some control of future models the decision to manufacture in Japan seems sensible.

This will ensure the return to Japanese standards of quality as opposed to those of Renault upon which many of their UK products are based.

But the media have taken the opportunity to blame Brexit. I read somewhere that The French Government AKA Renault have been keen to return more Nissan production to spare capacity in mainland Europe.
Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Metropolis.
When the proverbial hits the fan, you can count on foreign brands to return home..
Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - gordonbennet

I read somewhere the current X Trail is Japan built, but happy to be proved wrong if this is not the case, if so then it's hardly surprising that they are keeping production in Japan.

If i didn't see such stories on the alternative media i wouldn't hear about them any more, 3 decades ago i gave up on the printed press, and in the last decade we taken to avoiding any form of the now obvious to all unceasing propaganda via the main broadcasters, either TV or radio, we've doubled up on that since Operation Fear Stage One kicked off...the final straw that broke this camels back was possibly that nice Sir Cloggs insistence there were no plans for an EU army.

Our home manufacturers backed Diesel big time, no doubt following as so many punters did govt encouragement (plus favourable taxation) to go Diesel to save the planet, it would appear the average punter was not alone when left without a chair to sit on when the music stopped.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - FoxyJukebox

Agreed-It is pathetic to assume that an international company has social obligations of providing employment when it opens or closes it's busines in a different country of origin..

The media of course have jumped on the story since Sunderland was one area that voted "Brexit-Out" and they (the media) saw it as an opportunity to launch "I told you so" stories.

As for the Minister deciding that he may well intervene-then that has as much chance of succeeding as a weatherman forecasting a BBQ summer in february.

The fact is that motoring habits and trends are escalating big time now--and there just ain't the opportunities to make money from cars much longer.

The Japanese are just using business acumen

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - daveyjp

Anyone who simply shouts Brexit isn’t worth listening to.

The decision is complex and multi-layered, but it’s a perfect storm and Brexit is just one factor which isn’t helping.

2008 crash still hasn’t worked through the system and probably won’t for another decade, if ever for some people. Anyone now in their mid-thirties is about £2,000 a year poorer than someone of the same age in 2008.

Italy in recession, Germany close.

Lack of demand for any new vehicles – Worldwide – Brexit will be affecting UK buyers due to uncertainty – do I commit to £250+ a month or wait until later in the year?

Massive reduction in demand for diesels – UK is one of the worst affected .

Nissan Europe –Carlos Ghosn issue – he did all the deals with UK Government – his deals are all now being reviewed by Nissan in light of the situation the company are now in.

Japan recently signed free trade deal with EU – as there are now no tariffs why build here? UK manufacturer’s exporting to Japan by ship know it takes 4-6 weeks. That takes us beyond Brexit. When those cars leave these shores there is no certainty as to what tariffs may or may not be due. That’s a problem when you are trying to sell them as you can’t confirm the price.

However silver linings - If it means a return to proper Nissans, rather than Renaults in a different dress, it may actually not be a bad thing!

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - corax
However silver linings - If it means a return to proper Nissans, rather than Renaults in a different dress, it may actually not be a bad thing!

Terrible owner reviews of the 2014 on X-trail on other sites, as opposed to the initial glowing tester reviews which shows how important the former is when owning a car long term. A far cry from Nissans of old.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Warning

Agreed-It is pathetic to assume that an international company has social obligations of providing employment when it opens or closes it's busines in a different country of origin..

I found your comment highly insulting. Social obligation?. Take a good look: Nissan opened a plant in the most hard pressed area of the country. They gave jobs to the locals. They have met their social obligation of providing jobs for nearly 35 years. However the way Sunderland voted in the Brexit vote was slap in the face of the Japanese. The 60% vote to leave (which was the highest to the country), is similar to a wife or husband cheating on you. It shows the town does not value Nissan and does n't give a crap about the company, their work, their products or jobs. It is an insult to the Japanese sensibilities.

Nissan trusted Britain after its terrible record of the 1970s and the problems with industrial relations. Nissan gambled on Britain. Brexit has created a major problem for the company.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Bromptonaut
But the media have taken the opportunity to blame Brexit.

Brexit isn't the sole cause by any means but it's nonsense to ignore it as a contribution. Fact that Japan has signed a deal with EU we won't be part of is another. Change to electric cars, demise of diesel etc are also in mix.

Jacob Rees-Mogg was on radio blaming EU for diesel issues. Do diesels outside EU cease to emit NOx and particulates?

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - craig-pd130

No, absolutely NOTHING to do with Brexit at all.

Japan has inked the world's largest ever free-trade deal with the EU, which came into effect last Friday: www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/04/japans-eu...y

This in turn could well stop Japanese firms using the UK as a manufacturing base, because of the tariffs involved in trading with a non-EU country.

Why do people think that captain of British industry and arch-Brexiteer, Sir James Dyson, has moved his company's HQ to Singapore? Because Singapore has just inked a free-trade deal with the EU - so it will be easier and cheaper for the company to sell to its biggest market. It's funny how these heroes of Brexit are saying one thing, but actually doing another, isn't it?

But no, it's obviously all Project Fear. And Dr Liam Fox MP will be along any time soon with his "minimum of 40 free trade deals in place, one second after Brexit." Well, he'd better get a move on, as there are currently ZERO free trade deals in place. None.

Simple economics: if you're negotiating on behalf of a market of over half a billion consumers, you can cut a better deal than you can for a market of around 70 million.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - alan1302

Why do people think that captain of British industry and arch-Brexiteer, Sir James Dyson, has moved his company's HQ to Singapore? Because Singapore has just inked a free-trade deal with the EU - so it will be easier and cheaper for the company to sell to its biggest market. It's funny how these heroes of Brexit are saying one thing, but actually doing another, isn't it?

And Rees-Mog has moved his money to Dublin so it's still in the EU...

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Ethan Edwards

Untrue...one so far Israel.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - craig-pd130

Untrue...one so far Israel.

I stand corrected. So we can get cheap oranges and avocados. Unfortunately, Israel's pretty good at making its own weapons, or procuring the latest U.S. equipment, so they don't need to buy ours ....

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Leif
Dyson is moving his headquarters in part out of fear of a Labour government. A lot of very rich people are moving money out of the U.K. for that very reason. That are scared of Corbyn et al. And the punitive measures that will be introduced by a pseudo-Marxist government.

Dyson is also moving because his manufacturing is outside the U.K. in Asia, and having a headquarters here is inconvenient. Nothing to do with Brexit.

Regarding diesel, Nissan no longer want to invest in a large diesel plant in Europe when diesel sales here are plummeting. As for the Japan EU deal, it means they no longer need to manufacture in the U.K. or anywhere else in Europe to avoid import duty from the EU. The BBC explain it well.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47115753

Has Brexit played a role? Probably. A major one? No.

The real problem is that we are led by squabbling children, who are more interested in point scoring than making hard choices which leads to uncertainty and inability to plan. Who would ever have thought that a small group of Northern Irish politicians could have caused so much trouble? After all, it’s not in their nature is it? :)
Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - SteveLee

I said at the time, the eagerness in the EU to give Japan a tariff-free trade deal was aimed squarely at encouraging Japanese motor manufacturers to leave the UK. The EU will do everything in its power to destroy the UK as a free-trading UK on its doorstep is a threat to the EU, heck, they'd happily destroy member states if it meant the project continues. The real shame is the spineless treacherous mob in Westminster will block Brexit - at most only allowing Brexit in name only - so this damage to the UK manufacturing base will end up being for nothing.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Ethan Edwards

Indeed all we are looking for is a tariff free trade deal but they wont let us have one. You got the reason. They did that deal to screw us over. Some close allies eh?

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - craig-pd130

I said at the time, the eagerness in the EU to give Japan a tariff-free trade deal was aimed squarely at encouraging Japanese motor manufacturers to leave the UK. The EU will do everything in its power to destroy the UK as a free-trading UK on its doorstep is a threat to the EU, heck, they'd happily destroy member states if it meant the project continues. The real shame is the spineless treacherous mob in Westminster will block Brexit - at most only allowing Brexit in name only - so this damage to the UK manufacturing base will end up being for nothing.

The deal started to be negotiated in 2013, a long time before Brexit was even suggested - which somewhat undermines your argument. The deal would have benefited the UK as much as any other EU country, if we hadn't decided to trigger article 50.

It has nothing to do with the EU trying to 'destroy the UK' - the UK is doing a good job of doing that itself.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - RT

I said at the time, the eagerness in the EU to give Japan a tariff-free trade deal was aimed squarely at encouraging Japanese motor manufacturers to leave the UK. The EU will do everything in its power to destroy the UK as a free-trading UK on its doorstep is a threat to the EU, heck, they'd happily destroy member states if it meant the project continues. The real shame is the spineless treacherous mob in Westminster will block Brexit - at most only allowing Brexit in name only - so this damage to the UK manufacturing base will end up being for nothing.

The deal started to be negotiated in 2013, a long time before Brexit was even suggested - which somewhat undermines your argument. The deal would have benefited the UK as much as any other EU country, if we hadn't decided to trigger article 50.

It has nothing to do with the EU trying to 'destroy the UK' - the UK is doing a good job of doing that itself.

Watching the "Inside the EU" series on TV, Brexit has been "on" since 2010 and building up to it for decades.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - craig-pd130
Dyson is moving his headquarters in part out of fear of a Labour government. A lot of very rich people are moving money out of the U.K. for that very reason. That are scared of Corbyn et al. And the punitive measures that will be introduced by a pseudo-Marxist government.

I would disagree on that point - Dyson is savvy enough to know that Labour is a busted flush and is unelectable under the current leadership. They failed to get elected last time when confidence in the Conservatives was at a low, and since then confidence in Labour has fallen (despite Diane Abbot's claims).

I believe it's more to do with the new EU anti tax avoidance laws: many of the 'very rich people' want the UK to be a low-tax, light-regulation regime.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Warning

I believe it's more to do with the new EU anti tax avoidance laws: many of the 'very rich people' want the UK to be a low-tax, light-regulation regime.

Is that why Sunderland voted 60% to leave?

The wealthier parts of the South East voted to stay in.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - craig-pd130

I believe it's more to do with the new EU anti tax avoidance laws: many of the 'very rich people' want the UK to be a low-tax, light-regulation regime.

Is that why Sunderland voted 60% to leave?

The wealthier parts of the South East voted to stay in.

I posted about Dyson's actions, and the motives behind the likes of Aaron Banks supporting Brexit. I don't know why people in Sunderland voted the way they did: for a variety of reasons, I expect. That's up to each individual.

But we'll all soon be enjoying the sunlit uplands of Brexit.

Nissan X-Trail - Nissan Sunderland - The future - Leif

Simple economics: if you're negotiating on behalf of a market of over half a billion consumers, you can cut a better deal than you can for a market of around 70 million.

There is some truth in that. However, it is also true that having to satisfy 27 countries and not just one is harder, and one country can get a deal that better suits its own needs. But equally we might have to make more concessions, such animal welfare. That said, we may just end up following most EU rules on product safety etc, to make life easier for foreign countries. The key advantage of the EU is frictionless trade, so manufacturers can send products around Europe as they are assembled and lack of paperwork when exporting.