Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - The Gingerous One

Ahh the joys of travelling, as I progressed along the M62 on Monday evening I was aware of a steady 'tick' 'tick' 'tick' that wasn't from the radio and then it progressed to 'thud thud thud' and I knew I had a flat tyre...

So the car is 18 years old, but I'd replaced the spare tyre earlier in the year as it still had the original (date code was xx98) so I knew I had a decent spare. I could shift the wheelnuts on the offending wheel and so was onto a winner....assuming the jack didn't go up into the sills which it didn't.

Changed the wheel whilst looking at right-angles to the car so I could watch the traffic and 10 mins later all done.

hands were filthy so must rememer to put a pair of gloves in the car for next time.

A big bolt had been shoved into the tread. Bought a replacement new tyre (£50) once at my destination later in the week and the nice garage put the wheel back on the car for me and put the spare back in the boot, even finding the retaining bolt for the spare wheel and screwing it down again.

Ready for my next flat....

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - oldroverboy.

a few tears ago I had apuncture on the M40 juat before j2 nortbound where the services are at Beaconsfield. It was too frightening to stop, so drove the half mile off into the services, completely ruining the tyre, but a lot safer to replace there.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - John Boy

A nightmare scenario as far as I'm concerned which leads to a question: if you put the emergency flashers on, stopped on the hard shoulder and moved yourself up the banking away from the car, would the Highways Agency eventually show up and give you some cover to change the wheel?

Edited by John Boy on 15/09/2017 at 14:53

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - argybargy

Hoping not to tempt fate, but I've only had one or two significant tyre deflations in about 30 years.

I do remember, just weeks after passing my test, taking my camouflage green Ford Escort Mark 1 on the A55 "Expressway" in Wales, and experiencing for the first time a section of the red surfacing that my wife's father used to call "McAlpine Road". The road noise suddenly became so bad that I pulled off the highway in a hurry, convinced that I had a puncture, but found nowt wrong.

I pass that spot every now and again and still think about those innocent, naive days when motoring was a new, thrilling and sometimes intimidating experience.

Edited by argybargy on 15/09/2017 at 18:35

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - gordonbennet

A nightmare scenario as far as I'm concerned which leads to a question: if you put the emergency flashers on, stopped on the hard shoulder and moved yourself up the banking away from the car, would the Highways Agency eventually show up and give you some cover to change the wheel?

Certainly be an interesting event if you break down on the elevated M6 Birmingham section when the hard shoulder is a live lane, where exactly are you supposed to hide?

Saw a young woman hitting either the car or the front seat passenger with what appeared to be a large brolly a week last Saturday in that very elevated section, 60 mph live lane running too...takes all sorts.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - focussed

I know this sounds like an advert - but why risk being stranded by the side of a busy road with a flat tyre?

I have been using pre-puncture sealant for years, first in motorcycles - Ultraseal was the first product widely available - and now Puncturesafe in motorcycles and cars.

The only downside is you need to inspect your tyres frequently as you can have an object puncture the tyre and not know it because the gel will seal it.

I also use the out of date leftover gel in garden equipment, ride on mowers etc, because life is too short to have a puncture in your ride-on mower when the grass needs mowing!

Edited by focussed on 15/09/2017 at 20:31

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - bathtub tom

why risk being stranded by the side of a busy road with a flat tyre?I have been using pre-puncture sealant for years,

Because it can affect the balance of the wheel/tyre and many places won't repair a puncture with that stuff inside the tyre.

Maybe you can afford a new tyre after every puncture, I can't.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - wrangler_rover
I got a sudden puncture a few years ago leaving the M1 northbound at junction 21A Leicester. Due to lack of hard shoulder and it was a busy dual carriageway, I limped to the next lay by about 800 metres away. The next day at the tyre bay, the guy siid "you ruined the tyre by driving with it flat," I explined that whatever punctured it and put a 5mm diameter hole in the tread had ruined it, but he was insistent that despite me having nowhere safe to change the wheel, I had ruined the tyre by driving on it to a safe place to change it. In the end, I just agreed with him to shut him up.
In the words of my late father "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, agree with them and their argument disappears."
Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - Smileyman

Unfortunately the tyre fitter may have been right, to drive a tyre when it is flat will ruin the tyre ... a few years ago one morning I discovered a puncture on the front offside wheel just as I was leaving for work. The road has a steep camber so I drove the car a few yards to level the car out before fitting the spare wheel - the tyre fitter showed me the damage caused by driving on a flat tyre, even thoough I had driven less than 10 yards it was "very close" to being scrap.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - jc2

I had a similar concern at the junction of the M23 with the M25-o/s rear of course.Had jack and spare but because of other traffic I asked my wife to go to an emergency phone to get help-I wanted something protecting my back.In the meantime a police Range Rover stopped and asked if I was OK.I explained the situation and the observer told the driver to back up and put everything on-hazard flashers,blue lights etc.He then helped me change the wheel and then they radioed their control room to turn off the breakdown service.My thanks to that policeman and even with that Range Rover there HGV's still were running with N/S wheels on the hard shoulder.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - focussed

why risk being stranded by the side of a busy road with a flat tyre?I have been using pre-puncture sealant for years,

Because it can affect the balance of the wheel/tyre and many places won't repair a puncture with that stuff inside the tyre.

Maybe you can afford a new tyre after every puncture, I can't.

Have you ever used this stuff? It doesn't sound like it. I have never had a balance problem using it with any vehicle, including my current motorcycle fleet which includes a Yamaha FJR 1300 cc 143 hp and 145 mph capable.

Providing that you stick strictly to the amount to be injected into a tyre of a particular size and don't give it another dollop "just for luck"

These products are water soluble and wash out with an ordinary water hose and don't damage the inner lining of the tyre.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - craig-pd130

I'll have to look into Ultraseal now that I have a more modern bike with tubeless tyres.

Rover 600 - Getting a flat tyre on the M62 - The Gingerous One

Thanks for all the replies.

Where I had pulled over on the M62 was in fact in some roadworks, inside the coned-off section and there was a 50mph speed limit in effect.

I was also just before a bridge that took the M62 over a valley. Clearly being on a bridge such as this is bad as there's nowhere to go if a vehicle does stray into the inside lane.

so, I decided to change the wheel where I had ended up. I decided that if any vehicle looked like it was straying too close then I could just leap over the barrier and then let gravity take over as I rolled down the slope into a hedge/fence/ditch

Thankfully no such events took place so as the traffic was all moving at roughly 50mph and there was a vague plan of escape should it go wrong so I kept my eyes fixed on the traffic and concentrated on getting the wheel changed.

I had already written off the tyre, a new one was only £50 so no point quibbling.

After I continued my jounrye (from Lancs -> Cambridge) I then got diverted twice, one on the A1 because it was closed due to overnight roadworks and then again on the A14 for the same reason.

so considering all that, I thought that the 4hrs it took me to do the journey wasn't too bad though I was somewhat relieved to get to my accomodation that night.

 

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