Honda Accord (2003 – 2008) Review
Honda Accord (2003 – 2008) At A Glance
These days, if you make a mass-market ‘family car' you're in trouble. Because the mass is moving out of this market.
No one spending their own money wants to be seen in a rep's special any more. Unless, of course, they're buying it at such a knockdown price they can't help themselves. They'd far rather have a second-hand BMW or Mercedes. And, if they're spending upwards of £20k, they want a new BMW or Mercedes.
There are a few in-between cars, like the Audi A4, the SAAB 9-3, the Rover 75 and Volvo S60, and, to a lesser extent, the VW Passat and Skoda Superb. But Mondeo, Vectra, C5, 406 and Laguna are just too ten a penny to command serious cash. So what do you do if you're Mazda with the 626, or Toyota with the Avensis, or Honda with the Accord?
Mazda simply decided to build the best mass-market family car, and came up with the sensational Mazda 6. Great car. Stunning value. We're now seeing the new Toyota Avensis appearing on Britain's roads; a bigger car than its predecessor.
Instead of making another mass-market runner like the Mazda 6, or a slightly bigger car like the new Avensis, Honda have moved the new Accord up a notch. They don't pretend they've breached Mercedes and BMW territory. And they acknowledge that the A4 is also a different animal. But they're definitely head and shoulders above the Passat. Really, they've gone back to where they were fifteen years ago with the 1985 to 1993 Accords: Bigger and better than mass-market fodder, but not quite in the rarified price range of a BMW or a Merc. A bit like where Rover placed the 75 in comparison to the old 600.
So have they succeeded? At first the new Accord looks like a slab-sided Mazda 6, It isn't going to win any beauty contests, whether they're held in Lagos or London. But at least it has a nice face with front wheelarches that bulge with some well worked-out shoulder muscles.
Honda Accord and Tourer 2003 Road Test
Honda Accord i-CTDi 2003 Road Test
Honda Accord (2003 – 2008) handling and engines
- Engines range from 2.0 i-VTEC to 2.4 i-VTEC Automatic
- Readers report Real MPG to be between 25–59 mpg
Under the bonnet you get 155 or 190ps and 190 or 225Nm of torque. And you don't have to wait for that pulling power. Most of it is under your foot from very low revs due to Honda's clever VTEC variable valve timing. The engines are also quite clean, conforming to EU5 emissions regulations two years early without spoiling the drivers enjoyment.
The 2.0 litre gets a 5-speed manual box, or 5-speed Tiptronic style automatic, confusingly forward for upchanges and back for downchanges and opposite to the way Mazda went. But this is a very pleasant, smooth and viceless engine, with no boomy periods, as happy at 50 or 80 as it is at 100mph plus. A lot of drivers who miss the 85-93 Accords are going to be very happy indeed with this car.
The 2.4 with 6-speed box has real and usable power. Plus fine handling, good bump absorption and plenty of feel thanks to the light but not too light steering. The 5-speed autobox is also well suited to this engine, though, unless you pre-select the ratio, it can make the wrong decision for you half-way round a corner.
The Tourer is quite a bit heavier than the saloon as you can see from the figures, and on paper this blunts its performance somewhat. But not on the road. The 2.0 litre is lively in 5th even with the a/c on. The 2.4 Type S 6-speed is quite quick, but its stiffer suspension doesn't really suit the nature of the car. The 2.4 auto simply gels as the right combination of engine, gearbox, body and suspension. It's a bit softer than the Type S, obviously. But that helps rather than hinders. And the 5-speed autobox with Tiptronic style back-to-front shift works superbly well with a lovely feel to the chunky, precise shift lever.
Finally, safety. It's not enough to achieve a Four Star NCAP crash safety rating any more. These days, a carmaker has to go for the full Five Star treatment, which, with multiple airbags protecting the interior, Honda confidently expects to achieve. But they've gone a step further by considering people outside the car as well as inside. By leaving a space under the bonnet and wingtops they gives pedestrians unfortunate enough to be hit by the car a nice, soft place to land.
So Honda can tick all the boxes. With the new Accord they've got out of the mass-market D sector and back to where the Accord used to be. The engines are good to drive and environmentally friendly. The controls are light. The handling is excellent. Noise levels are low. And everyone is well protected. Not bad at all.
First off this all-new 2,204cc common rail diesel is a chain cammer, like the BMW, Mercedes, Ford Mondeo, Vauxhall Vectra, SAAB 9-3 and Rover 75. On paper, with just 140PS, it doesn't come over as a winner in the power stakes. The BMW320d gets that accolade. But for Honda engineers to have signed it off at all it had to be to other diesels what Honda is to other petrol engines. The best in class for refinement. Honda wasn't going to put its name to some gruff and growly old oil burner.
Yes, from outside it sounds like a taxi. And from inside you can hear a muffled but familiar diesel knock. But the way it behaves is as un-diesel-like as the Toyota Yaris diesel. The torque is there by the bucket load (250 lb ft at 2,000rpm). But what you don't get is any sign of the catapult effect so many diesels are guilty of. What I mean is nothing at all under 1,000rpm, then everything at once as soon as you get close to 2,000, then nothing again from 4,000rpm onwards. The new Honda CDTI is smooth and punchy throughout its rev range. It's so flexible and free revving that on the 30mile climb of a thousand corners from Marbella to Ronda I left it in third most of the time.
Unlike the Avensis D-4D, there is enough grunt to unstick the front and no finger-wagging alarmist traction control system to heavy handedly starve the wheels of power if you do. But you soon find out how to handle that one.
Out on the autopista (which isn't Spanish for ‘car launch', by the way), the steering is a bit less happy than it is on a winding back-road. You're more conscious of its lightness and artificial self-centring. Then you look at the speedo and realise that though the engine is only doing 3,000 rpm, the car is clocking 100mph. That's very usefully long gearing. And means drivers who do have to spend a lot of time on the motorway should see mid 50's fuel economy.
Engine | MPG | 0-62 | CO2 |
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2.0 i-VTEC | 35–38 mpg | 8.9–9.3 s | 176–189 g/km |
2.2 i-CTDi | 50–51 mpg | 9.3 s | 145–148 g/km |
2.4 i-VTEC | 31 mpg | 8.0 s | 214 g/km |
Real MPG average for the Honda Accord (2003 – 2008)
Real MPG was created following thousands of readers telling us that their cars could not match the official figures.
Real MPG gives real world data from drivers like you to show how much fuel a vehicle really uses.
Average performance
93%
Real MPG
25–59 mpg
MPGs submitted
418
Honda Accord (2003 – 2008) interior
- Boot space is 459 litres
Dimensions | |
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Length | 4665–4669 mm |
Width | 1760 mm |
Height | 1445 mm |
Wheelbase | 2670 mm |
The seats are ‘set them and forget them' superb. Honda has concentrated on ensuring that drivers sit properly, with their bums in a hole at the back of the squab and their thighs and back properly supported. The fact that you don't have to constantly fiddle to get comfortable on the move is testament to how good they are. Easily as good and maybe better than a SAAB's or Volvo's. Steering adjustment is up, down, in and out: the class norm these days.
Dash layout is exceptionally clear, with a huge central backlit speedometer, rev-counter to the side and everything else easily visible. Climate control, in-car entertainment and satnav controls fall easily to hand with minimum distraction from the road. And driver and front passenger can control their individual macro climates individually.
A great feature of the satnav is that it's touch-screen, so much less fiddly than these things usually are. Lose your way and you aren't likely to go flying off the route altogether while you try to reprogram it. Another nice touch is that in all models the driver and front passenger can separately control the temperature around them.
Quality is high with very fine shut-lines and doors that close with a quiet ‘plap' of expelled air. Even the handles are chunky and pleasant to touch. 53% of the body structure is high-tensile steel. Like you did with the 85-93 Accord, you just know this is a well-built car which will never let you down.
Back seats? Good, too, with plenty of leg and headroom. Boot? Enormous, with an extra-wide section at the back to accommodate the tallest of golfer's clubs.
There's also a Tourer station wagon in the UK from May 2003 at a straight £1,000 more than the saloon. For this, the interior designers have taken a few cues from their own Jazz and Mazda's 626 estate. Press the seatback button and not only does the 60/40 split backrest flop down, the seat squabs automatically jump up and out of the way. This leaves a completely flat floor, lower in the car than in a Volvo estate and nearly two metres long. Despite the low look of the roofline, loadspace inside is actually greater than a Mondeo or V70. So it's an excellent cargo carrier, surfboard transporter or emergency bedroom.
If you don't go for the £100 spare wheel option, there is a 50 litre lockable well underneath the rear load floor. And the tailgate itself is powered by concealed hydraulic struts with anti-trap and anti-foul sensors so it won't damage itself against a wall.
Honda Accord (2003 – 2008) models and specs
Dimensions | |
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Length | 4665–4669 mm |
Width | 1760 mm |
Height | 1445 mm |
Wheelbase | 2670 mm |
Miscellaneous | |
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Kerb Weight | 1365–1493 kg |
Boot Space | 459 L |
Warranty | 3 years / 90000 miles |
Servicing | 12500 miles |
Costs | |
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List Price | £17,187–£26,487 |
Insurance Groups | - |
Road Tax Bands | F–K |
Official MPG | 31.4–51.4 mpg |
Euro NCAP Safety Ratings | |
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Adult | 4 |
Child | - |
Pedestrian | 2 |
Overall | - |
On sale until April 2008
Saloon | |||
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Version | List Price | MPG | 0-62 |
2.0 i-VTEC EX 4dr | £21,637 | 35.3 mpg | 9.3 s |
2.0 i-VTEC EX 4dr Auto | £21,637 | - | - |
2.0 i-VTEC SE 4dr | £17,187 | 38.2 mpg | 8.9 s |
2.0 i-VTEC SE 4dr Auto | £17,187 | - | - |
2.0 i-VTEC Type-S 4dr | £20,537 | 35.3 mpg | 9.0 s |
2.0 i-VTEC Type-S 4dr Auto | £20,537 | - | - |
2.2 CTDi EX 4dr | £22,577 | 51.4 mpg | 9.3 s |
2.2 CTDi SE 4dr | £18,610 | 51.4 mpg | 9.3 s |
2.2 CTDi Sport GT 4dr | £20,777 | 50.4 mpg | 9.3 s |
2.4 i-VTEC EX 4dr | £22,537 | 31.4 mpg | 8.0 s |
2.4 i-VTEC EX 4dr Auto | £22,537 | - | - |
2.4 i-VTEC EX Sequential Shift (with ADAS) 4dr Auto | £26,487 | - | - |
2.4 i-VTEC Type-S 4dr | £21,437 | 31.4 mpg | 8.0 s |
On sale until June 2007
Saloon | |||
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Version | List Price | MPG | 0-62 |
2.2 CTDi GT 4dr | £20,767 | 51.4 mpg | 9.3 s |
On sale until May 2007
Saloon | |||
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Version | List Price | MPG | 0-62 |
2.2 CTDi Sport 4dr | £19,367 | 51.4 mpg | 9.3 s |
Model History
January 2003
Accord from early 2003 4-door saloon with slippery 0.26cd.
4,665mm (15' 4") long x 1,760mm (5' 9") wide. Breakover Angle: better than 12.5 degrees helps prevent grounding on ramps. Wheelbase: 2670mm; ground clearance: 150 mm; breakover angle: 12.8 degrees.
Big Tourer estate came a few months later. A bigger car than the previous model, moving slightly upmarket. Minimum engine is 2.0 litre four pumping out a healthy 155PS plus 190Nm torque, or the option of a new 2.4 with 190PS and 220Nm torque.
With 5-speed manual box 2.0 offers combined consumption of 37.7mpg and a low CO2 of 179g/km. Wih a 6-speed box the 2.4 delivers a combined consumption of 30 mpg (no mention of its CO2). Excellent 5-speed sequential shift automatic is my choice with the 2.4 engine. Both new engines are EU 5 compliant.
February 2004
All new Accords come with alloy wheels as standard, together with climate control. Also, from Feb 2004, a superb 2.2 litre Honda-built all alloy chain cam common rail Euro 4 diesel with 140PS and 250lb ft torque priced from £18,700 for the Sport saloon and from £19,700 for the Sport Tourer. Excellent touch-screen satnav is a £1,000 extra.
September 2006
New Accord for 2006. First shown Frankfurt Show September 2006. Interior and exterior facelift, plus first application in Europe of Honda’s ADAS (Advanced Driving Assist Systems) technologies aimed at making driving experience relaxing and safer. Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), which regulates the speed of the car and its distance to the vehicle in front, will be fitted. In addition, the European-first Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS), which detects lane markings on motorways and applies the appropriate amount of torque to the steering, will also be available (as a factory-equipped option on right-hand drive models only).
September 2007
Accord Sport GT launched. Standard kit includes:
- Dark Chrome door handles and front grille
- 17-inch (Saloon) or 16-inch (Tourer) alloy wheels in Dark Graphite finish
- Premium White Pearl paint option exclusive to this model
- Sports suspension
- Rear boot spoiler, smoked headlights, and foglights
- Carbon-effect inlay fitted within the dashboard and centre console
- Red illuminated dials
- Voice-activated Satellite Navigation system
- Premium Audio system that includes a 6CD changer
- Cruise control
- Bluetooth Hands Free Telephone
- Tourerversion fitted with rear section privacy glass
Prices from £20,767 (OTR).
Also from September 2007, company car BIK beneficial SE with 2.2-litre i-CTDi engine and low list price of £18,600 (OTR). Spec includes rid and handling friendly 16-inch alloys, stability assist, 6-speed gearbox and Bluetooth Hands Free Telephone all standard.
What to watch out for
Radio TP problem when cars fited with satnav. Radio supposed to automatically seek best signal for selected station but instead can seeks out the strongest signal around the frequency which can result in unintended channel hopping.
Have been turbo failures on i-CTDi.
Report of heavy use of rear brake pads and discs. Corrosion occurs on the edges of the metal backing of the pads which make the pads tight in the calliper. When the brakes are applied the pads move in towards the disc, but when the brakes are released they cannit not retract a few thou and so are constantly wearing down. Best to replace the rear pads every 12,500 miles.
Reports of heavy oil consumption as bad as 1,000km a litre on some i-CTDi and no low oil warning light, only oil pressure light so needs regularly checking.
Reports of mid 30s fuel consumption of early 2.2 i-CTDi.
Reports of problems with electrics: central locking and electric tailgate.
Problems with ABS and VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist) modules from age about 4 years old. Cost £1,600 to rerplace. But can be refurbished by www.bba-reman.com for around £300. Honda warranty on the component is only for 3 years or 62,000 miles.
Problems with radio speakers.
Noisy automatic transmissions due to known software fault with transmission ECU.
Have been cases of water ingress into rear wheel bearings.
DVD Satnav is by Alpine and can be repaired by them if it goes wrong, tel Alpine Electronics 0870 3333 407 0870 3333 407 . No need to buy a new unit.
Problem of 2006MY 6 speed manual boxes on diesels jumping out of 1st gear. Modification available from Honda, but parts on back order in March 2007.
Report of faulty voltage regulator on 2.2 i-CDTi at 20k miles.
Report of dealers charging £100 to adjust non adjustable hydraulic tappets of 2.2 diesel.
Report of dealers repeatedly overfilling with oil at services.
Numerous report of fuel strainer/fuel filter of 2.2 i-CTDi clogging in cold weather leading car to run in 'limp home' model.
Reports of problems with inlet manifold swirl chambers of 2.2 i-CTDIs at high mileage. Also of inlet manifolds cracking, emitting fumes to the cabin. Best to have replaced before the 3 year 90k mile end of warranty. Though even after, Honda will sometimes pick up the tab. By 2010 Honda had extended its warranty on both the inlet manifold and the timing chain to 7 years or 125,000 miles, whichever comes first.
Report of cracked injectors on 2.2 i-CTDI after 100k miles.
Complaint of cracked exhaust manifold of 2.2iCTDI that seems to occur on 2007 cars at high mileage. Occurred to reader at 150k miles. Honda apparently extended the warranty on the manifold to 125k miles or 7 years. The danger here is of drowsiness caused by carbon monoxide sucked into the cabin.
12-04-2011:Further complaint of cracked exhaust manifold on 2005 6-year old Accord and no warranty replacement.
Mystery battery leakdowns on the Civic can be through the starter switch. Can also be though a faulty oil sensor switch. This may also apply to the Accord.
One reader's list of problems over 70,000 miles:- * premature rear pad / disc wear (20,000 miles) * excess road noise from tyres (from new) * corrosion of alloy wheels (30,000 onwards) * failure of drive belt tensioner (67,000) * failure of alternator bearing (67,000) * very poor level of attention from Honda franchised main dealer during servicing.
One report of same ABS problem as on VAG cars, small BMWs, small Volvos and Mazda 3s. ESP warning light can indicate Fault Code "Boost Pressure Sensor G201". This is embedded inside Teves Mk 60 ABS systems and requires replacement of ABS control unit/pump. Seems to be age-related, occurring mainly in 3 - 5 year old cars. Bosch ABS systems do not have the problem. More on the problem and independent rebuilds of the unit at: http://ecutesting.com/vw_golf_touran_abs_pump_module.html
17-01-2013:45 Amp battery of petrol models prone to losing charge and can have a life as short as 18 months.
08-02-2013:Clutch slip may occur on 2.2 i-CTDI diesels for various reasons. Normal life for a clutch is 80k – 120k miles, but clutches have been failing in as little as 10k – 30k miles. See: http://www.civinfo.com/wiki/index.php?title=Slipping_clutch Honda service bulletin (number 1269) tells the dealer to check the cruise control switch before removing the gearbox, and the self adjusting mechanism before removing the clutch assembly. The dealer has to collect information about the clutch and then has to get Honda UK engineers to examine the findings to establish whether the clutch failure is the result of abuse, normal wear, or a manufacturing problem. It is also possible that the clutch wear is caused by a fault with the DMF (dual mass flywheel) that can develop play. Once it is confirmed that the clutch failure is due to a manufacturing defect, then all costs are covered under the standard 3 year warranty. Examples of clutches not covered under warranty are: A badly worn and overheated clutch plate that shows no lining grooves and appears burnt. A badly worn and overheated clutch plate that shows no lining grooves and appears burnt. A completely worn out clutch plate. A completely worn out clutch plate. Honda dealers now have a fixed price cost of £585 for replacement of the clutch only. Clutch friction disc and cover RRP is £194.88 inc VAT + 5 hours labour. A new flywheel retails at £892.63 inc VAT plus an additional 0.2 hours labour. A clutch release bearing retails at £47.06 inc VAT plus an additional 0.3 hours labour.
03-04-2014:Fuse board of 78k mile 2007 i-VTEC EX+ estate caused battery drain by shorting out due to water ingress from bulkhead vent well.
19-07-2015:Two cases reported of VSA light coming on in the dash display of 2006 Accords. Quoted £2k + ro replace by Honda dealer, but may be fixable by ECUtesting.com
09-08-2016:Report of 2005 Accord Tourer 2.2iCDTI reaching 200,000 miles reliably (apart from common issue exhaust manifold). Now starting to smoke under accelation and replacement injectors will cost over £1,000, so effectively an economic write-off.
07-06-2017:Report of 2005 Honda Accord 2.2iCDTI Tourer Executive 5-speed manual needing 5 EGRs in 3 years. Now done 197K miles but only 16 months and 20k miles since last new EGR fitted. Doesn't burn oil. Still on original turbo and exhaust. EGRs costing £800 a time.
11-09-2017:Report of erratic tickover on 2004 Honda Accord Tourer 2.2i CDTi. When hot, revs sometime drop to 500 rpm then it shudders back to normal tick over or stalls. Occasionally it is very difficult to restart and engine management light comes on. Owner tried injector cleaner and always used V Power fuel. May be due to the problems outlined above.
20-06-2018:Owner of USA built 1995 Honda Accord Coupe completely unable to source SRS airbag parts for his car despite a Worldwide searcvh and, because his airbag light is flashing, which id an MoT fail, is now faced with ahving to scrap his car.
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