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I get at least 5 a day that Hotmail doesn't filter out, all offering me masculinity-enhancements(!!), but the majority of the junk gets put in the junk-mail folder. Ironically it detected HJ's email as junk, and I had to trudge through all the rubbish to find it.
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The tactic is cheap, annoying and has changed my opinion of HJ. I my case the email has caused the complete reverse of its intention.
But there you go - as I'm an old duffer things like that that really, really annoy me.
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I'm a lonely expat and surrounded by people who hate me so my initial reaction was to ask Sarah out for a drink but it occurred to me that she might be his wife.
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I'm a lonely expat and surrounded by people who hate me
Surely not.... There must be plenty of lovely people. Where is this place?
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"Where is this place?"
Poland. Home of the friendliest, loveliest people on Earth - until you have to work with them.
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"The tactic is cheap, annoying and has changed my opinion of HJ. I my case the email has caused the complete reverse of its intention.
But there you go - as I'm an old duffer things like that that really, really annoy me. "
How on earth is this spam? It is a single email sent to members of this forum using their registered email address.
It is telling members who do not visit the site, as frequently as "Dulwich" and "flunky" do, that there is a new look to the site imminent.
There must be hundreds of members who ahve signed up in the past who have moved on after their one or two problems were resolved, and it does no harm to Honestjohn or the regular visitors to send a round-robin email telling people of the improvements coming on 1st October.
Get a grip. Why all the fuss and over-reaction? Have you read the privacy policy in the small print? Is that not reassuring or good enough for you?
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I agree with jbif this in my eyes is not spam and I dont have a problem receiving emails from sites/forums I subscribe to.
This morning I had 288 spam messages captured by filters Honest John email was not classed as spam.
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How on earth is this spam?
Because it is unsolicited. It is spam by its very definition. It is important that this is understood.
It is a single email sent to members of this forum using their registered email address. It is telling members who do not visit the site as frequently as "Dulwich" and "flunky" do that there is a new look to the site imminent. There must be hundreds of members who ahve signed up in the past who have moved on after their one or two problems were resolved and it does no harm to Honestjohn or the regular visitors to send a round-robin email telling people of the improvements coming on 1st October.
Er yes, but those people who don't visit the site regularly don't care. They had a problem, they wanted to do some research, they sorted it out, and they moved on. If they have another issue they will come back.
Argos have a new look to their website as well, it is much better than the old one, but they aren't presumptuous enough to email their entire customer base telling them - when a customer wants to use their service, they will visit the site and will notice it, as I did yesterday, and was pleasantly surprised and my opinion of their quality rose. If I had received an email notifying me I would NOT have been impressed.
'Website gets redesigned' is very exciting for the website owner and webmaster, mildly interesting to regular users, and of no interest whatsoever to anyone else - they really, really, do not care that road tests are now easier to access.
Get a grip. Why all the fuss and over-reaction? Have you read the privacy policy in the small print?
Yes I have, and that is why I am complaining. If you sign up to Ticketmaster it clearly says they may send you emails advertising things. If you don't like this, you don't sign up there.
WHen you sign up here you are given no such warning, you don't agree to this.
It's not over-reaction, it's important that people observe proper etiquette about sending emails to thousands of people, there are laws about it, and 'just one little spam' is one spam too many.
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For the love of mickey mouse (blasphemy deleted) flunky, get a sense of persepective!
If our great leader manages to entice back people who no longer use the site then more people will click on the links creating more revenue and thus securing the future of the site (hopefully).
I hope this is the most serious thing you have to face today. Wouldn't like to see your reaction to a real problem...
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I'm afraid I put it down as spam myself. Unwanted, Unneeded Junk Mail.
I never read more than the first line. I put in in the same class as the spam that came from the "pipeline" thing.
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For the love of mickey mouse (blasphemy deleted) flunky get a sense of persepective! If our great leader manages to entice back people who no longer use the site then more people will click on the links creating more revenue and thus securing the future of the site (hopefully). I hope this is the most serious thing you have to face today. Wouldn't like to see your reaction to a real problem...
I agree. One email from HJ is trivial and if it helps the site, fine. In the past I emailed him with a car related problem and got a response less than a hour or so later. Amazing. And the site is free.
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If our great leader manages to entice back people who no longer use the site then more people will click on the links creating more revenue and thus securing the future of the site (hopefully).
Er, that is the very definition of spam, and it is not allowed. There are no exceptions. I would quite like to secure the future of *my* site, but that doesn't mean I have any right to send out emails unsolicited.
I understand that you think it is trivial, but you have to take a stand somewhere. We are all civilised Daily Telegraph readers, and if we can't understand that you should get people's consent BEFORE you send out email then there is no hope for anyone...
I hope this is the most serious thing you have to face today. Wouldn't like to see your reaction to a real problem...
Now then there is no need to be insulting, I just think this site should be above this. Clearly there are a lot of people in media/promotion that don't understand about spam, data protection laws, etc., and I think they should.
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Now then there is no need to be insulting
Sorry flunky, that wasn't my intention. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, eh?
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flunky. have you not read where it says "Occasionally we may need to email you "?
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flunky. have you not read where it says "Occasionally we may need to email you "?
I clicked 'New Account' then 'terms', and also 'small print' at the bottom. And it doesn't say that.
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"I clicked 'New Account' then 'terms', and also 'small print' at the bottom. And it doesn't say that."
Keep searching, and, for sure, you will find it.
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Keep searching and for sure you will find it.
I did find it, for sure, already by searching for the words you posted, and there is a message currently on page 467 of 940 of the forum about needing to email people if they had a message deleted or similar. But I can't imagine you could possibly be referring to something 467 pages, about 10 weeks of solid reading, into the forum.
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"But I can't imagine you could possibly be referring to something 467 pages, about 10 weeks of solid reading, into the forum."
You are quite right. I am not. Keep looking.
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