V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - EYBobb

Discovered a "noise" from the front end, which I assumed to be a wheel bearing that needed replacement. V.W. informed me it was in fact a gearbox problem - namely the differential bearing. Gearbox -a sealed unit - needed to be replaced. Cost £4,500!!!! (Bearing cost £50 Max.!) Apparently there are no workshop manual instructions for this bearing replacement on the agent's computer. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT??

Anyone else had this problem?

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - Collos25

While they are changing the gearbox ask them to change the timing chain at the same time ,this car was a total disaster it has won here in Germany the Golden Carrot award for the worst car of the year (that was for the timing chain debacle).I would look on the UK VW forums as I think there is some sort of action taking place for this gearbox I now in Germany its avoided like the plague.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - countryroads

Unfortunately the 7spd DSG has added to why I dont like VWs anymore, (try it in a 1.4 Polo, ewww) and I worked for them for 2 years...My suggestion is to find a DSG specialist, or a VW dealership who is willing to massage their repair procedures and do a strip and mend for you, which will save you massively. The 1.4TSi has proven itself to be pretty pants, awful on fuel and prone to many other expensive faults. A shame as MK6 Golf is an ok drive.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - gordonbennet

''CAN YOU BELIEVE IT??''

From the VW group i've come to expect it, barge pole jobs now.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - bazza

There's a lot of these tales of woe on the forums with the DSG box. How far out of warranty and will VW offer any goodwill if you put them under pressure? ( note that they are offering a 10 year warranty on these units in the States and elsewhere - presumably as they know there is a problem) . If no joy, then look for a good independant to fix it at lower labour rate hopefully. Then sell the car and buy into a more reliable make ( ie Japanese or Korean) with better chance of trouble-free ownership. This is the main reason why although I very much like the idea of a nice Golf tsi, there is too much risk involved outside of warranty. There's a lot to be said for running an older car worth a couple of grand or less, then that's the biggest bill you could possibly have. Good luck with finding a cheaper solution, it can't be pleasant facing such an extreme repair bill.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - Canon Fodder

The 1.4TSi has proven itself to be pretty pants, awful on fuel and prone to many other expensive faults. .

It's a shame that motoring journalists continue to trot out the stupid 'combined' figures they're fed by the manufacturers. HJ is not immune to this fault although of course the 'real MPG' feature on this site is an excellent idea.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - Avant

I may have asked this question before - but does anyone know WHY the VW group introduced the 7-speed DSG?

The 6-speed DSG works perfectly in my car: it never jerks, even when manoeuvring, and we don't hear many stories of its going wrong. 6 speeds are quite enough and at no point have I felt the need for a seventh. Yet the 7-speed box is apparently jerky and unpleasant in use even when it isn't broken. I believe it has a different type of clutch which is the cause of the problems.

If nobody knows the answer I'll try the Skoda or VW forums.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - gordonbennet

I suppose some would call it progress Avant, my 16 year old MB box together with almost every single hydraulic minimally electrified 4 or 5 speed box is virtually bombproof and untouched from new so long as you don't try to cut costs by failing to have a periodic oil change, yet they have seen fit to go up to 7 speed electronic marvel boxes which are renowned for needing regular updates to keep them well and ruinously expensive when they go wrong, talk of 9 speed boxes from MB and BMW if they're not already out.

All designed for the gameboy generation, more electronic tat than you can shake a stick at sells, well it does to the new and company car market, time will tell if cars so equipped will sell used once the ticking time bomb aspect becomes common knowledge, i wouldn't give you a thankyou.

Modern cars of a certain image are not designed to last for years trouble free any more, they are of the moment on paper and down the pub or the office they sound upmarket, exclusive, better than the others, the buyers of such are not in the least interested if it goes wrong to the tune of £5k three weeks out of warranty, they'll have the next upgrade by then, and i don't blame them if its their thing, thank goodness we're all different.

If it ain't broke etc.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - unthrottled

The increasing number of ratios is starting to look like one-upmanship. Once someone brings out an 8 speed, 5 starts to look inadequate. It's a bit silly though. The number of gears in trucks is coming DOWN, not up, so more is not better.

The only practical advantage I can see is that the smaller difference in consecutive gear ratios allows smoother, faster shifting under load.

Can't see any real fuel economy benefit. Economy comes from selecting the right gear rather than splitting hairs.

6 speed manuals end up being driven as 4 speeds.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - countryroads

It was introduced to compliment the smaller engines at first. It is a dry clutch unit, unlike the 6spd which is wet clutch. It is smaller and lighter than the 6spd so can be more easily fitted to Polo, Ibiza, Fabia etc (not that the 6spd doesnt fit but its tight). It is supposedly more efficient and has reduced fuel consumption and emissions. However when used in a NASP Polo 1.4 it is always hunting and really masks the power of the old 1.4. Originally DSG problems were diagnosed as the 'mechatronic unit' common to all VAG brands, however in service the actual units have proved to be a little weak. On the 6spd sometimes caused by not adhering to the 40k mile oil change. On motorway cars they arent all bad, and the 6spd has been fitted to many cars I have seen used as taxis which have done massive miles, upto 180k ish miles. I would much rather have a 'proper' auto. I know its less efficient, but can prove to be much stronger, and IMO nicer to use, although that is very personal.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - daveyK_UK

Have DSG 2nd hand values suffered?

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - dieseldogg

Avant,

The dry 7 speed is more fuel efficient, no power sapping oil drag.

However it is only (currently) suitable for limited torque (250Nm?)

Marcus

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - countryroads

DaveyK;

Its a little hard to say, everybody will price them higher on the forecourt because they are automatic....but, many people who I have driven in DSG equipped cars, especially those coming from a torque conv auto just plain dont like them. Especially when it comes to manouevring and you dont see a huge advantage over a manual.

I dont think the price gap is as wide as a few years back when the average midsize auto was a very smooth and advanced 4-6 speed 'proper' auto that gives that luxury creaminess one expects from an automatic.

Once they are out of warranty people in the know dont like them at all. Same goes with Audi Multitronic CVT.

Edited by countryroads on 28/12/2012 at 13:01

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - gordonbennet

Values seem quite high as does demand.

Though it will never cease to amaze me just how little if any research most people will undertake before buying a very complicated item like a car.

I've known many people over the years who have owned Audi automatics going right back to the 80's, in almost every case they have failed at some point and in every case the repairs have been well over 4 figures, very often failing cars are outed whilst in the intermittent fault but still driveable stage.

Not for me.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - countryroads

I think research is the key, most people who just want an automatic VW etc dont give a stuff about how the gearbox actually works...they can see figures in terms of economy and performance but how it is achieved is of little consequence. I love an auto, but ive seen too many failures of boxes of all types to have much faith in them after some miles have passed. I blew an autobox on a BMW 730i V8 a few years ago with just 90k ish on it!

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - xtrailman

I have never been convinced with these DSG boxes, two clutches and still a DMF.

But i am sold on the 8 and nine speed auto from ZF.

I have never owned a auto, but now i'm old a 9 speed auto over a 6 speed manual is starting to sound very attractive.

Any one who can't work out why more gears are better should ride a pedal bike. A five speed bike is fine, a 18 speed is better, but with my 24 speed i can cycle up hills with less effort, which i struggled with previously.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - galileo

Any one who can't work out why more gears are better should ride a pedal bike. A five speed bike is fine, a 18 speed is better, but with my 24 speed i can cycle up hills with less effort, which i struggled with previously.

I liked my 3 speed manual Ford Zodiac, 2.6 litres of straight six would go from 10 mph to 90 mph very nicely!

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - xtrailman

So why don't F1 cars only have three gears?

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - galileo

So why don't F1 cars only have three gears?

Because they have no useful torque below 9000 rpm?

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - EYBobb

Hi Again, Thanks for all the messages (I've been away for the festives!!) seems I made the wrong choice with this vehicle, but will know better next time, In the meantime, I await an answer from VW Germany (via snail mail) to see what they have to say on the matter. There has been no movement from VW UK's stance. They reckon their hands are tied as VW Germany has not issued UK agencies with the "workshop manual" to carry out any sort of 7-speed DSG gearbox servicing.

V.W. Golf match - Golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed gearbox problem - Ian91
Hi just having 40k major service on VW golf 1.4 tsi dsg 7 speed, does anyone know if the gearbox on this model needs an oil and filter change on this model. I cannot get a definitive answer.