Thanks for this.
I was wondering if you can help me. I was going to buy a new car, round about in ~October/November time by this comany called Autoebid (autoebid.com).
On their website they claim it is their trading name and their company is Commission it ltd <http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/4ba140118800db497134c4aac5d8588c/compdetails>
On companies house website, I see they apparently filed a form in 2010, but I cannot find out how to access it. I was wondering if you could help me? Thanks.
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Hi Mark45.
If you visit www.companieshouse.gov.uk and click on Find Information at the top of the page. Then click on Access Webcheck in one of the yellow boxes.
Insert the Company registered number 04617337 and click Search.
This will bring up a list of all submissions made by the company to companies house since their incorporation. If my memory serves me correctly, you then need to register with credit/debit card details in order to access any of the submissions, ranging from the latest filed accounts to directors and shareholders details and any other submissions since the incorporation of the company in december 2002. The site identifies the charge for each submission that you access.
Unless you are familiar with financial accounts, they may give you a false impression of the company.
(Posting edited at the request of Discounted New Cars.)
Edited by Honestjohn on 25/10/2012 at 12:06
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Alternatively you could go to this website that will give you all the companies house data for free-if you register and sign in you can also view accounts free.
You can also do a director search on an individual if you know their full name.
http://companycheck.co.uk/
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Here you have most current information about the company: http://www.bizdb.co.uk/company/commission-it-limited-07410971/ with companies filings filed for 2014.
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thanks for the details,
fwiw,
I went ahead with Cort and had no issues every step happened as planned without a hitch.
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ROScoe - just for the peace of mind of we cynics would you confirm this? You came here and asked a question at the end of May and you have a car on 4th June, in a time which includes a weekend and a Bank Holiday?
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He probably works for them.
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The car was from 'stock' which is a flexible term in this industr,...y can be up to a month r longer if resold to someone else.
My order timescale was quoted as 2 weeks.
Yes, I had ordered and researched this company prior to posting on the forum.
At the time of posting I did not have a confirmed delivery date nor paid for the car.
The car was indeed delivered on the estimated date exactly as offered with good communication.
Thanks to anyone who replied to this thread.
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Thanks for the reassuring information.
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Bought a Qashqai in december as a Christmas present for my wife. Paid on Monday, car delviered on Thursday.
Was a little apprehensive about handing over £16k , but took the leap of faith, even having credit checked their accounts.
During the Thursday the car was late, and I started sweating, tracked the car to the actual dealer that it was coming from who confirmed the car was there and that they had made a mistake with arranging deliveries.
Cort got on to them at 4pm, and the car was delivered to my home at 8pm.
Really I got a great service, and did exactly what they said they would do.
The following day I ordered a van, which I paid a deposit last week, signed up pretty good finacne rates (the company i own deals with capital machinery and i deal with finance brokers who could only match their finance offer), and the van was delivered last Friday, as i requested it to be - again they delivered a great service.
I will look at sourcing all our fleet cars from Cort Vehicle Contracts/ Discounted New Cars.com.
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rjm777
Are you the first owner or is it one of those deals where the seller registers the car in thier name and keeps the V5 for 6 months?
Hope it the former but if its the latter the seller has broken the law and you could end up in court with a criminal record. In past cases dealers have failed to keep payments up on cars they have retained the V5 for and these cars have been re posssesed from unsuspecting buyers.
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Not sure if this is also potentially libellous but don't think so..
According to the service we use to check out prospective new customers Cort show
>>Credit Rating is Suspended,
>>This Company appears financially valueless.
Which isn't unusual these days but when someone owes considerably more than they own (and what they owe is not showing as a long term liability which a loan or mortgage would be) then I'd be a little wary about shrinking that gap with my cash.
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The golden rules with brokers are quite simple.
1 Never use one that asks the customer for a deposit.
2 Never use one that asks the customer to pay remaining monies.
3 Never use one that asks the customer for a "finders fee".
4 Never use on that intends to break the law by leeping the V5 for several months.
Basically a good broker should use his clout to connect a customer with one of his contacted dealers and then place your order. Your deposit should be paid to the dealer (by credit card of course) and the final balance to the dealer on delivery/collection. The brokers fee will be paid by the dealer at their agreed rate.
If you pay your money to the broker, get your car and then the broker decides not to pass on the cash the dealer will quite rightly want his car back. It will then get very messy and costly.
Saving cash is great but risking it is plain daft.
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A resurrection of the thread if I may.
I think we all know that there are brokers that have been going a long time and we probably know, or know of, people that have usd them or have experience of them. Drive the Deal, Carfile and Broadspeed spring to mind....possibly 'auto-e-bid' too. HJ's advert to the right shows 'Discounted New Cars' advert as it has done for some time.
I understand the advisability of paying the dealer the deposit and the final balance...but this doesn't seem to be the practice here. Am I reading this wrong or are we being asked to pay the dipper to the broker direct? .... and doesn't this contradict the good advice of the wise majority?
A Toyota Yaris on the Discounted New Car site is a LOT cheaper than all the other brokers. We are always told that if it seems too good to be true.....etc. (Like a thousand pounds cheaper!)
Anyone's recent experience welcome (preferably someone who hasn't registered with HJ in the last few hours).
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I understand the advisability of paying the dealer the deposit and the final balance.
That is the only advice you need. Never give a penny to broker. They make their money form commission. If they have your money and do not pass it on the supplier will repossess and then you will have neither vcar or money.
I have no idea how Discounted nNew Cars work but if they want money run away and find a broker that acts correctly.
As you say. if the deal looks too good it probabaly is.
There is probabaly a disclaimer somewhere that says that HJ takes no reponsibility for the actions of advertisers.
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I helped my FiL buy a new Scenic this way and whilst he got exactly the car that was ordered at the agreed prrice, it took almost a year to get the V5. As the date for renewing the tax drew closer I began to panic and it took at least 5 phone calls to the company before it finally arrived.
Why do they keep the V5 like this? Was FiL properly insured if he wasn't the registered keeper for 12 months?
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A seller keeping the V5 has now been deemed to be illegal. Its done as the car has been bought as a demonstrater, which attracts a discount on the proviso it can't be sold.
If you don't declare the car is registered to someone else when insuring it could present a problem.
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"I helped my FiL buy a new Scenic this way and whilst he got exactly the car that was ordered at the agreed prrice, it took almost a year to get the V5"............
When you say you helped your FiL buy the car "this way"...what do mean by "this way"?
Is it that you used the broker mentioned in the title..ie. Discounted New Cars? ....... or just that you paid a deposit to a broker rather than direct to a dealer having been introduced by a broker?
Was it made clear that you were buying a pre-reg car? Or did it only become evident afterwards?
Any information is worth having when choosing where to source your next car.
You would hope that a firm advertising on here would have been checked by HJ to the extent that they weren't dodgy or suspect or not to be recommended....and the firm in question does advertise here.
Edited by KB. on 28/01/2013 at 22:13
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You would hope that a firm advertising on here would have been checked by HJ to the extent that they weren't dodgy or suspect or not to be recommended....and the firm in question does advertise here.
Wouldn't have thought HJ checks every advertiser. But having looked at their sites the facts are as follows:
You have to pay them a deposit. You should only ever pay the supplying garage.
You have to pay them the final balance. See above.
There is no mention anywhere that the buyer will be the first registered keepr and get the V5 immediately following purchase. All they say is after accepting the car you will get an invoice confirming the title has been passed to the purchaser. If this is as I suspect instead of getting the V5 immediately its illegal.
Personally I would not buy from them. There are plenty of brokers out there who do it correctly with no risk to the buyer.
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I wonder if poster " rjm777 " is still registered or looking in on here?
He posted a glowing review of his purchase indicating how good they were and how he would consider further purchases. But was asked a question regarding the V5 and hasn't replied to date. And that was on the 16th...it's now the 29th. If you're looking in, rjm777, do please contribute to clear up the uncertainty...your input would be valued.
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Hi Guys found this thread checking up on the above supplier, I was wondering if any of you would have any advice on reputable brokers to use for buying a car.
Thank you in advance
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One broker with a good reputation is Drivethedeal, who source cars from UK dealers: one downside is that they don't encourage part-exchange.
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One broker with a good reputation is Drivethedeal, who source cars from UK dealers: one downside is that they don't encourage part-exchange.
Thank you, Avant. I had been looking at them but as you said, I'd need to dispose of my car myself.
To be honest I'm in a bit of a minefield. I've been reading up about buying from brokers and it is certainly a minefield of information regarding getting new or pre-registered, if going pre-registered what to do to ensure receipt of the V5C immediately, if pre-registered can benefit from maintenance deals with the workshops etc etc.
I'll do some more reading and I'm hoping for a few callbacks from sites I've submitted requests to so hopefully i can get some definitive answers.
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Hi, just come across this thread when looking for more info on Discounted New Cars.
Who did you go with in the end numanoids?
Re the issues with the V5, they told me I should have it back in my name in 8-10 weeks if I go ahead with the purchase. My current car insurance is due about the same time I'd be getting the car so I've been having a look at prices and confused.com ask who the vehicle is registered to and also who owns it so I should be ok there shouldn't I?
Thanks
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sorry just found this thread again.
Qashqui V5 turned up maybe two or three weeks after delivery of the car, so no issues at all.
The Qashqui was registered the day of delivery.
Have since purchased a preregistered van for our company too. V5 turned it a few weeks later as you would get with any new purchase or change of details. This van was registered a few months before delivery though.
As far as i am concerned I will look to buy cars through Cort Vehicles if one is available.
My experiences have been very good.
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Hi Skidpan,
I'd like to thank you for your informative posting.
I ordered a car from Cort & after reading your posting realised that
1. I'd been asked for a deposit
2. They were now requesting I pay the balance up front!
I felt that there was simply no trust in me as a customer and I was simply being asked for the balance up front without even seeing the car I had ordered! Having never dealt with brokers before I had no idea that this was expected of me as a customer. I have no reason to believe that the car would not have turned up but the way the business was conducted did not suit me.
After reading your posting I realised that I would be happier to pull out of the deal. In doing so I lost my £500 deposit since that was the condition of the contract I signed. I've since decided to buy from a main dealer. That makes the car dearer but makes me happier because I feel trusted and I trust them!
I read that there are plenty of people that successfully buy vehicles using brokers but this way of selling me anything is a big no no!
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Was the need to pay the balance before gewtting the car drawn to your attention when you entered into the contract?
If not, you should be able to avoid the contract and get your deposit back.
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Yes I understood that I was required to pay the balance 48hrs prior to delivery. I backed out of the contract hence I lost my deposit.
After discussion with them I was informed that that was the only way they do business. As I see it surely I could have paid on delivery with a debit card. They could have easily checked on the net via internet banking that the money had indeed transferred into their account. Had they offered this to me I would have certainly continued with the purchase!
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I thought that a company was only allowed to charge for their actual losses in the case of cancellations. Not some arbitary deposit amount.
Could you challenge the withheld deposit on this basis? Maybe worth getting some advice from the CAB?
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Thanks for your advice but I've have already decided to write off this 'debt'. The car I was ordering was for my son & I wanted a decent little motor for him as his first car hence my decision to get a new car.
I really don't think this company has done itself any favours because I always buy new cars for myself and had they been a bit more trusting, my car is coming up to 3 years old & I was seriously thinking about a Lexus or Merc. & Had this deal gone ahead as I wanted it to, then I probably would have ordered from them. However, I will only deal direct with main dealers in future, possibly using Carquake a company who offer good deals but you actually buy the car yourself from a main dealer. I used them to get the best price for my present car.
My reason for posting is to make people aware that this is how business is done by this company & as I said before I would only ever use main dealers in future, whatever the cost!
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I have bought hundreds of cars, when do you ever get a car without paying in full ? You dont. And if its new you dont see it until its at the dealers getting its PDI.
I paid £16k before the Qshqui was delivered and yes it was a sweaty brow few days, the van was £2500 as we financed the purchase.
Cort are ok, butthe safest bet is, if in doubt use the dealer. It will cost you more, but like Cort they are a private company not owned by the manufacturer, your money is potentially still at risk.
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I have never said that Cort were never OK & I've certainly read about people who have been quite pleased with their dealings with them. However referring to your last paragraph, I was in doubt hence I did what you suggested & used a dealer! As you also indicated, because a company is not owned by the manufacturer of the car this is also a potential risk!
I've now bought the car for my son from the main dealer. The salesman only asked me for a £200 refundable deposit & he let me have a good look at the car just as it literally came off the low loader! I was well satisfied & paid him the balance. After that the car was prepared it was then handed over.
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I am in process with a purchase from Cort.
Although I have had concerned - especially after reading this conversation - when I paid the deposit they made sure I used a credit card to safe guard the whole purchase.
I realise that this is a safegrard and should not be relied upon but having now read up on Section 75 I feel alot safer about continuing.
(www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/section75-prote...s)
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Finally put into practice what I have been saying on this and other forums for some time.
Decided to swap the BMW 1 series a few weeks ago, after researching the current batch of similar cars the new model Seat Leon looked like a good option. Having viewed it it ticked all the boxes, drove it and the decision was made. Local dealers were friendly enough and very helpful (unlike VW and Volvo) but they would not get anywhere near the cost to change I was targeting based on the internet research I had done.
Over the weekend I e-mailed an enquiry to www.carfile.net, quote returned immediately and looked good. Spoke to them at about 9.45am last Monday, contacted by dealer before 10.30am, car in stock that met my requirements, deal done by 11.00am. Cost to change virtually what my research had indicated.
Deposit paid directly to dealer (by Mastercard), Carfile do not ask for any monies.
This morning (Friday) balance paid on collection from dealer. Car registered to me as 1st keeper.
This is exactly how car buying should be.
Cannot speak to highly of Carfile.
Before someone suggests this is spam I have no connection with Carfile other than being a very satisfied customer.
Why risk your hard earned using brokers that ask for your money when companies like Carfile exist.
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(Skidpan is a valued regular on here so this certainly isn't spam.)
Thanks Skidpan - your taking about 'cost to change' implies that the SEAT dealer took the 1-series in PX. Was that the case? If so, this is particularly useful to know as one of the best-known reputable brokers, Drivethedeal, doesn't do PX (or they didn't last time I looked).
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Thanks Skidpan - your taking about 'cost to change' implies that the SEAT dealer took the 1-series in PX. Was that the case? If so, this is particularly useful to know as one of the best-known reputable brokers, Drivethedeal, doesn't do PX (or they didn't last time I looked).
Yes indeed, Carfile.net do PX's but its the dealer who you negotiate with and not Carfile.
Looked at Drivethedeal since, as you say, they are also a reputable broker but they do not do PX's.
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It sounds like the big advantage of Carfile is that they're simply an "introducer" taking a fee from the selling dealer - so that all the dealings are between the dealer and customer, including p/x - in the same way as if you rang round dealers at distance to get the best deal.
It looks a win-win situation compared to using a conventional broker - is there any downside though?
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Just adding my two cents...
I have bought four new cars through Carfile.net and cannot praise their service highly enough. They act as introducers and after they have put you through to the suppliing dealer all correspondence is with the dealer. Very low (£500-£900) deposit paid direct to the dealer at time of ordering and the rest paid with debit card on pickup. Absolutely straightforward.
I was initially concerened that service at the dealer would in some way be compromised because you were buying at such a discount but nothing could be further from the truth. I have always been treated as a valued customer by the three dealers I dealt with.
I'm now in a position to purchase a fun two-seater to supplement my Skoda Yeti and shall have no hesitation in going to carfile.net once more. Even if the y don't have the lowest price (which they do!) I know I will be getting the best service.
Oh, and apart from being a hppy customer i have no link whatsoever with Carfile.
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My experience with Discounted New Cars / Cort Vehicle Contracts
I ordered a car back in January for delivery at end of March. The car did not arrive at the dealer and Cort said something had happened to the dealer and I could either have my deposit back or reorder for a mid June delivery.
Naturally I was annoyed by this and very concerned but the very good price of the car persuaded me to re-order and wait until the middle of June. I also knew I had the option to get my deposit back and go elsewhere and wait and pay more.
As the middle of June approached I became very concerned that I would get the same story from Cort but I'm pleased to say that was not the case. The car wsa delivered yesterday and my old one picked up as arranged.
Although this was not a perfect procedure, the people at Cort were always very helpful and courteous. They always answered the phone and I was never given the run-around. They also answered emails and behaved professionally.
Yes, I paid a 500 pound deposit on a credit card and paid in full 2 days before delivery but I knew (and checked with the credit card company) that I was protected for the full amount.
The professionalism throughout by Cort allows me to accept the first car problem was outside their control and I'm happy to recommend them. My main dealings were with Howard but Steve was also very helpful.
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I don't usually join forums, but HJ has a good reputation and I felt I couldn't stand by and read some of the comments about Cort without adding my tuppence. And unlike some of the contributors to this thread, I have bought from Cort, I'm not just scaremongering, although I agree car purchase is a big purchase for most of us and therefore should not be entered into lightly!
I bought a Qashqai from Cort in June 2012. I'd only ever bought from a maindealer before so was very cautious. I turned up at Cort's office without warning and was made welcome. They explained the whole process inc. the protection offered by making the deposit by credit card. A couple of days later, after more research, I confirmed the deal and was given an estimated delivery date (same date as from the local maindealer). I had a few questions prior to delivery: emails/phone calls were responded to within 48 hours if not sooner. Everything went as explained. Even when there was a 2 day delay to delivery, I phoned up Cort to explain that we were going on holiday and they then got my car at the head of the PDI queue and delivered per original date. My car passed into my ownership 2 days after it was originally registered. It never saw it's original owner, being delivered directly to me from the main dealer. I got the registration document 2 weeks later. And carried out a HPI check just to make sure that it really was mine.
Basically, a happy customer.
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I am in process with a purchase from Cort.
Although I have had concerned - especially after reading this conversation - when I paid the deposit they made sure I used a credit card to safe guard the whole purchase.
I realise that this is a safegrard and should not be relied upon but having now read up on Section 75 I feel alot safer about continuing.
(www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/section75-prote...s)
Section 75? - don't bank on it (after my experience). I bought a brand new Landrover Freelander 2 from main delaer. 7 months later I twice found it stuck in my garage, locked and unresponsive to the radio key fobs. Call out technicians had to use forced entry, damaging the car. Trading Standards and Which? solicitors advised to make a Section 75 claim on grounds of unsatisfactory quality and possible misrepresentation. Credit card company I paid the deposit with refused to pay up, so I took it to Financial Ombudsman, who took a year to decide AGAINST upholding my claim - ombudsman spent most of report unnecessarily dismissing misrepresentation (which I had conceded at an earlier stage) and relegated unsatisfactory quality to a minor issue that was dismissed without reason. Am now complaining about the ombudsman. In the interim, my Freelander has lost £10,000 in P/X value. I cannot use simple/cheap Small Claims Court route as this has an upper claim value limit of £10,000. County Court costs could reach or exceed value of the car. Forget Section 75:- because of the depreciation losses, you're better of just getting rid of a bad car ASAP. In summary, one has very little consumer protection when buying a new car (yes, it's there in theory, but in practice? - pah!).
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