Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - R0Scoe

does anyone have experience or an opinion on a company that advertises on HJ under the name of
Discounted New Cars aka Cort Vehicle Contracts
?
Deals seem keen are they the too good to be true.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Armitage Shanks {p}

They should not be compared to these people:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=95881

But perhaps other Backroomers have other information.

(Armitage's original post had to be edited because Discounted New Cars felt it was potentially libellous.)

Edited by Honestjohn on 25/10/2012 at 03:45

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - leaseman

Hi ROScoe. If the company to which you refer is Cort Vehicle Contracts Limited, Registered number 5451473, then they were incorporated 7 years ago and the last accounts filed at Companies House were for the 2010 calendar year.

They may well do an excellent job in sourcing cheap new cars and may do so by arranging a sale from a franchised dealer who deals directly with the customer on the money side of things. You will need to find out more if you wish to pursue a bargain.

(Negative comment removed at the request of Discounted New Cars.)

Edited by Honestjohn on 25/10/2012 at 12:04

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - mark45

Thanks for this.

I was wondering if you can help me. I was going to buy a new car, round about in ~October/November time by this comany called Autoebid (autoebid.com).

On their website they claim it is their trading name and their company is Commission it ltd <http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/4ba140118800db497134c4aac5d8588c/compdetails>

On companies house website, I see they apparently filed a form in 2010, but I cannot find out how to access it. I was wondering if you could help me? Thanks.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - leaseman

Hi Mark45.

If you visit www.companieshouse.gov.uk and click on Find Information at the top of the page. Then click on Access Webcheck in one of the yellow boxes.

Insert the Company registered number 04617337 and click Search.

This will bring up a list of all submissions made by the company to companies house since their incorporation. If my memory serves me correctly, you then need to register with credit/debit card details in order to access any of the submissions, ranging from the latest filed accounts to directors and shareholders details and any other submissions since the incorporation of the company in december 2002. The site identifies the charge for each submission that you access.

Unless you are familiar with financial accounts, they may give you a false impression of the company.

(Posting edited at the request of Discounted New Cars.)

Edited by Honestjohn on 25/10/2012 at 12:06

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - focussed

Alternatively you could go to this website that will give you all the companies house data for free-if you register and sign in you can also view accounts free.

You can also do a director search on an individual if you know their full name.

http://companycheck.co.uk/

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Ilse123

Here you have most current information about the company: http://www.bizdb.co.uk/company/commission-it-limited-07410971/ with companies filings filed for 2014.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - R0Scoe

thanks for the details,

fwiw,

I went ahead with Cort and had no issues every step happened as planned without a hitch.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Armitage Shanks {p}

ROScoe - just for the peace of mind of we cynics would you confirm this? You came here and asked a question at the end of May and you have a car on 4th June, in a time which includes a weekend and a Bank Holiday?

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - skidpan

He probably works for them.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - R0Scoe

The car was from 'stock' which is a flexible term in this industr,...y can be up to a month r longer if resold to someone else.

My order timescale was quoted as 2 weeks.

Yes, I had ordered and researched this company prior to posting on the forum.

At the time of posting I did not have a confirmed delivery date nor paid for the car.

The car was indeed delivered on the estimated date exactly as offered with good communication.

Thanks to anyone who replied to this thread.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Armitage Shanks {p}

Thanks for the reassuring information.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - rjm777

Bought a Qashqai in december as a Christmas present for my wife. Paid on Monday, car delviered on Thursday.

Was a little apprehensive about handing over £16k , but took the leap of faith, even having credit checked their accounts.

During the Thursday the car was late, and I started sweating, tracked the car to the actual dealer that it was coming from who confirmed the car was there and that they had made a mistake with arranging deliveries.

Cort got on to them at 4pm, and the car was delivered to my home at 8pm.

Really I got a great service, and did exactly what they said they would do.

The following day I ordered a van, which I paid a deposit last week, signed up pretty good finacne rates (the company i own deals with capital machinery and i deal with finance brokers who could only match their finance offer), and the van was delivered last Friday, as i requested it to be - again they delivered a great service.

I will look at sourcing all our fleet cars from Cort Vehicle Contracts/ Discounted New Cars.com.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - thunderbird

rjm777

Are you the first owner or is it one of those deals where the seller registers the car in thier name and keeps the V5 for 6 months?

Hope it the former but if its the latter the seller has broken the law and you could end up in court with a criminal record. In past cases dealers have failed to keep payments up on cars they have retained the V5 for and these cars have been re posssesed from unsuspecting buyers.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - oldtoffee

Not sure if this is also potentially libellous but don't think so..

According to the service we use to check out prospective new customers Cort show

>>Credit Rating is Suspended, >>This Company appears financially valueless.

Which isn't unusual these days but when someone owes considerably more than they own (and what they owe is not showing as a long term liability which a loan or mortgage would be) then I'd be a little wary about shrinking that gap with my cash.


Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - skidpan

The golden rules with brokers are quite simple.

1 Never use one that asks the customer for a deposit.

2 Never use one that asks the customer to pay remaining monies.

3 Never use one that asks the customer for a "finders fee".

4 Never use on that intends to break the law by leeping the V5 for several months.

Basically a good broker should use his clout to connect a customer with one of his contacted dealers and then place your order. Your deposit should be paid to the dealer (by credit card of course) and the final balance to the dealer on delivery/collection. The brokers fee will be paid by the dealer at their agreed rate.

If you pay your money to the broker, get your car and then the broker decides not to pass on the cash the dealer will quite rightly want his car back. It will then get very messy and costly.

Saving cash is great but risking it is plain daft.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - KB.

A resurrection of the thread if I may.

I think we all know that there are brokers that have been going a long time and we probably know, or know of, people that have usd them or have experience of them. Drive the Deal, Carfile and Broadspeed spring to mind....possibly 'auto-e-bid' too. HJ's advert to the right shows 'Discounted New Cars' advert as it has done for some time.

I understand the advisability of paying the dealer the deposit and the final balance...but this doesn't seem to be the practice here. Am I reading this wrong or are we being asked to pay the dipper to the broker direct? .... and doesn't this contradict the good advice of the wise majority?

A Toyota Yaris on the Discounted New Car site is a LOT cheaper than all the other brokers. We are always told that if it seems too good to be true.....etc. (Like a thousand pounds cheaper!)

Anyone's recent experience welcome (preferably someone who hasn't registered with HJ in the last few hours).

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - thunderbird

I understand the advisability of paying the dealer the deposit and the final balance.

That is the only advice you need. Never give a penny to broker. They make their money form commission. If they have your money and do not pass it on the supplier will repossess and then you will have neither vcar or money.

I have no idea how Discounted nNew Cars work but if they want money run away and find a broker that acts correctly.

As you say. if the deal looks too good it probabaly is.

There is probabaly a disclaimer somewhere that says that HJ takes no reponsibility for the actions of advertisers.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Galad

I helped my FiL buy a new Scenic this way and whilst he got exactly the car that was ordered at the agreed prrice, it took almost a year to get the V5. As the date for renewing the tax drew closer I began to panic and it took at least 5 phone calls to the company before it finally arrived.

Why do they keep the V5 like this? Was FiL properly insured if he wasn't the registered keeper for 12 months?

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - daveyjp
A seller keeping the V5 has now been deemed to be illegal. Its done as the car has been bought as a demonstrater, which attracts a discount on the proviso it can't be sold.

If you don't declare the car is registered to someone else when insuring it could present a problem.
Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - KB.

"I helped my FiL buy a new Scenic this way and whilst he got exactly the car that was ordered at the agreed prrice, it took almost a year to get the V5"............

When you say you helped your FiL buy the car "this way"...what do mean by "this way"?

Is it that you used the broker mentioned in the title..ie. Discounted New Cars? ....... or just that you paid a deposit to a broker rather than direct to a dealer having been introduced by a broker?

Was it made clear that you were buying a pre-reg car? Or did it only become evident afterwards?

Any information is worth having when choosing where to source your next car.

You would hope that a firm advertising on here would have been checked by HJ to the extent that they weren't dodgy or suspect or not to be recommended....and the firm in question does advertise here.

Edited by KB. on 28/01/2013 at 22:13

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - skidpan

You would hope that a firm advertising on here would have been checked by HJ to the extent that they weren't dodgy or suspect or not to be recommended....and the firm in question does advertise here.

Wouldn't have thought HJ checks every advertiser. But having looked at their sites the facts are as follows:

You have to pay them a deposit. You should only ever pay the supplying garage.

You have to pay them the final balance. See above.

There is no mention anywhere that the buyer will be the first registered keepr and get the V5 immediately following purchase. All they say is after accepting the car you will get an invoice confirming the title has been passed to the purchaser. If this is as I suspect instead of getting the V5 immediately its illegal.

Personally I would not buy from them. There are plenty of brokers out there who do it correctly with no risk to the buyer.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - KB.

I wonder if poster " rjm777 " is still registered or looking in on here?

He posted a glowing review of his purchase indicating how good they were and how he would consider further purchases. But was asked a question regarding the V5 and hasn't replied to date. And that was on the 16th...it's now the 29th. If you're looking in, rjm777, do please contribute to clear up the uncertainty...your input would be valued.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - numanoids

Hi Guys found this thread checking up on the above supplier, I was wondering if any of you would have any advice on reputable brokers to use for buying a car.

Thank you in advance

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Avant

One broker with a good reputation is Drivethedeal, who source cars from UK dealers: one downside is that they don't encourage part-exchange.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - numanoids

One broker with a good reputation is Drivethedeal, who source cars from UK dealers: one downside is that they don't encourage part-exchange.

Thank you, Avant. I had been looking at them but as you said, I'd need to dispose of my car myself.

To be honest I'm in a bit of a minefield. I've been reading up about buying from brokers and it is certainly a minefield of information regarding getting new or pre-registered, if going pre-registered what to do to ensure receipt of the V5C immediately, if pre-registered can benefit from maintenance deals with the workshops etc etc.

I'll do some more reading and I'm hoping for a few callbacks from sites I've submitted requests to so hopefully i can get some definitive answers.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - htobs
Hi, just come across this thread when looking for more info on Discounted New Cars.
Who did you go with in the end numanoids?

Re the issues with the V5, they told me I should have it back in my name in 8-10 weeks if I go ahead with the purchase. My current car insurance is due about the same time I'd be getting the car so I've been having a look at prices and confused.com ask who the vehicle is registered to and also who owns it so I should be ok there shouldn't I?

Thanks
Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - rjm777

sorry just found this thread again.

Qashqui V5 turned up maybe two or three weeks after delivery of the car, so no issues at all.

The Qashqui was registered the day of delivery.

Have since purchased a preregistered van for our company too. V5 turned it a few weeks later as you would get with any new purchase or change of details. This van was registered a few months before delivery though.

As far as i am concerned I will look to buy cars through Cort Vehicles if one is available.

My experiences have been very good.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - wary
Hi Skidpan,

I'd like to thank you for your informative posting.

I ordered a car from Cort & after reading your posting realised that

1. I'd been asked for a deposit

2. They were now requesting I pay the balance up front!

I felt that there was simply no trust in me as a customer and I was simply being asked for the balance up front without even seeing the car I had ordered! Having never dealt with brokers before I had no idea that this was expected of me as a customer. I have no reason to believe that the car would not have turned up but the way the business was conducted did not suit me.

After reading your posting I realised that I would be happier to pull out of the deal. In doing so I lost my £500 deposit since that was the condition of the contract I signed. I've since decided to buy from a main dealer. That makes the car dearer but makes me happier because I feel trusted and I trust them!

I read that there are plenty of people that successfully buy vehicles using brokers but this way of selling me anything is a big no no!

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Avant

Was the need to pay the balance before gewtting the car drawn to your attention when you entered into the contract?

If not, you should be able to avoid the contract and get your deposit back.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - wary
Yes I understood that I was required to pay the balance 48hrs prior to delivery. I backed out of the contract hence I lost my deposit.

After discussion with them I was informed that that was the only way they do business. As I see it surely I could have paid on delivery with a debit card. They could have easily checked on the net via internet banking that the money had indeed transferred into their account. Had they offered this to me I would have certainly continued with the purchase!
Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Pondlife

I thought that a company was only allowed to charge for their actual losses in the case of cancellations. Not some arbitary deposit amount.

Could you challenge the withheld deposit on this basis? Maybe worth getting some advice from the CAB?

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - wary
Thanks for your advice but I've have already decided to write off this 'debt'. The car I was ordering was for my son & I wanted a decent little motor for him as his first car hence my decision to get a new car.

I really don't think this company has done itself any favours because I always buy new cars for myself and had they been a bit more trusting, my car is coming up to 3 years old & I was seriously thinking about a Lexus or Merc. & Had this deal gone ahead as I wanted it to, then I probably would have ordered from them. However, I will only deal direct with main dealers in future, possibly using Carquake a company who offer good deals but you actually buy the car yourself from a main dealer. I used them to get the best price for my present car.

My reason for posting is to make people aware that this is how business is done by this company & as I said before I would only ever use main dealers in future, whatever the cost!
Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - rjm777

I have bought hundreds of cars, when do you ever get a car without paying in full ? You dont. And if its new you dont see it until its at the dealers getting its PDI.

I paid £16k before the Qshqui was delivered and yes it was a sweaty brow few days, the van was £2500 as we financed the purchase.

Cort are ok, butthe safest bet is, if in doubt use the dealer. It will cost you more, but like Cort they are a private company not owned by the manufacturer, your money is potentially still at risk.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - wary
I have never said that Cort were never OK & I've certainly read about people who have been quite pleased with their dealings with them. However referring to your last paragraph, I was in doubt hence I did what you suggested & used a dealer! As you also indicated, because a company is not owned by the manufacturer of the car this is also a potential risk!

I've now bought the car for my son from the main dealer. The salesman only asked me for a £200 refundable deposit & he let me have a good look at the car just as it literally came off the low loader! I was well satisfied & paid him the balance. After that the car was prepared it was then handed over.


Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - RegularGuy

I am in process with a purchase from Cort.

Although I have had concerned - especially after reading this conversation - when I paid the deposit they made sure I used a credit card to safe guard the whole purchase.

I realise that this is a safegrard and should not be relied upon but having now read up on Section 75 I feel alot safer about continuing.

(www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/section75-prote...s)

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - skidpan

Finally put into practice what I have been saying on this and other forums for some time.

Decided to swap the BMW 1 series a few weeks ago, after researching the current batch of similar cars the new model Seat Leon looked like a good option. Having viewed it it ticked all the boxes, drove it and the decision was made. Local dealers were friendly enough and very helpful (unlike VW and Volvo) but they would not get anywhere near the cost to change I was targeting based on the internet research I had done.

Over the weekend I e-mailed an enquiry to www.carfile.net, quote returned immediately and looked good. Spoke to them at about 9.45am last Monday, contacted by dealer before 10.30am, car in stock that met my requirements, deal done by 11.00am. Cost to change virtually what my research had indicated.

Deposit paid directly to dealer (by Mastercard), Carfile do not ask for any monies.

This morning (Friday) balance paid on collection from dealer. Car registered to me as 1st keeper.

This is exactly how car buying should be.

Cannot speak to highly of Carfile.

Before someone suggests this is spam I have no connection with Carfile other than being a very satisfied customer.

Why risk your hard earned using brokers that ask for your money when companies like Carfile exist.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Avant

(Skidpan is a valued regular on here so this certainly isn't spam.)

Thanks Skidpan - your taking about 'cost to change' implies that the SEAT dealer took the 1-series in PX. Was that the case? If so, this is particularly useful to know as one of the best-known reputable brokers, Drivethedeal, doesn't do PX (or they didn't last time I looked).

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - skidpan

Thanks Skidpan - your taking about 'cost to change' implies that the SEAT dealer took the 1-series in PX. Was that the case? If so, this is particularly useful to know as one of the best-known reputable brokers, Drivethedeal, doesn't do PX (or they didn't last time I looked).

Yes indeed, Carfile.net do PX's but its the dealer who you negotiate with and not Carfile.

Looked at Drivethedeal since, as you say, they are also a reputable broker but they do not do PX's.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - RT

It sounds like the big advantage of Carfile is that they're simply an "introducer" taking a fee from the selling dealer - so that all the dealings are between the dealer and customer, including p/x - in the same way as if you rang round dealers at distance to get the best deal.

It looks a win-win situation compared to using a conventional broker - is there any downside though?

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Pocklington Paul

Just adding my two cents...

I have bought four new cars through Carfile.net and cannot praise their service highly enough. They act as introducers and after they have put you through to the suppliing dealer all correspondence is with the dealer. Very low (£500-£900) deposit paid direct to the dealer at time of ordering and the rest paid with debit card on pickup. Absolutely straightforward.

I was initially concerened that service at the dealer would in some way be compromised because you were buying at such a discount but nothing could be further from the truth. I have always been treated as a valued customer by the three dealers I dealt with.

I'm now in a position to purchase a fun two-seater to supplement my Skoda Yeti and shall have no hesitation in going to carfile.net once more. Even if the y don't have the lowest price (which they do!) I know I will be getting the best service.

Oh, and apart from being a hppy customer i have no link whatsoever with Carfile.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - atkinsonline

My experience with Discounted New Cars / Cort Vehicle Contracts

I ordered a car back in January for delivery at end of March. The car did not arrive at the dealer and Cort said something had happened to the dealer and I could either have my deposit back or reorder for a mid June delivery.

Naturally I was annoyed by this and very concerned but the very good price of the car persuaded me to re-order and wait until the middle of June. I also knew I had the option to get my deposit back and go elsewhere and wait and pay more.

As the middle of June approached I became very concerned that I would get the same story from Cort but I'm pleased to say that was not the case. The car wsa delivered yesterday and my old one picked up as arranged.

Although this was not a perfect procedure, the people at Cort were always very helpful and courteous. They always answered the phone and I was never given the run-around. They also answered emails and behaved professionally.

Yes, I paid a 500 pound deposit on a credit card and paid in full 2 days before delivery but I knew (and checked with the credit card company) that I was protected for the full amount.

The professionalism throughout by Cort allows me to accept the first car problem was outside their control and I'm happy to recommend them. My main dealings were with Howard but Steve was also very helpful.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Devonian1180

I don't usually join forums, but HJ has a good reputation and I felt I couldn't stand by and read some of the comments about Cort without adding my tuppence. And unlike some of the contributors to this thread, I have bought from Cort, I'm not just scaremongering, although I agree car purchase is a big purchase for most of us and therefore should not be entered into lightly!

I bought a Qashqai from Cort in June 2012. I'd only ever bought from a maindealer before so was very cautious. I turned up at Cort's office without warning and was made welcome. They explained the whole process inc. the protection offered by making the deposit by credit card. A couple of days later, after more research, I confirmed the deal and was given an estimated delivery date (same date as from the local maindealer). I had a few questions prior to delivery: emails/phone calls were responded to within 48 hours if not sooner. Everything went as explained. Even when there was a 2 day delay to delivery, I phoned up Cort to explain that we were going on holiday and they then got my car at the head of the PDI queue and delivered per original date. My car passed into my ownership 2 days after it was originally registered. It never saw it's original owner, being delivered directly to me from the main dealer. I got the registration document 2 weeks later. And carried out a HPI check just to make sure that it really was mine.

Basically, a happy customer.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Isbjorn

I am in process with a purchase from Cort.

Although I have had concerned - especially after reading this conversation - when I paid the deposit they made sure I used a credit card to safe guard the whole purchase.

I realise that this is a safegrard and should not be relied upon but having now read up on Section 75 I feel alot safer about continuing.

(www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/section75-prote...s)

Section 75? - don't bank on it (after my experience). I bought a brand new Landrover Freelander 2 from main delaer. 7 months later I twice found it stuck in my garage, locked and unresponsive to the radio key fobs. Call out technicians had to use forced entry, damaging the car. Trading Standards and Which? solicitors advised to make a Section 75 claim on grounds of unsatisfactory quality and possible misrepresentation. Credit card company I paid the deposit with refused to pay up, so I took it to Financial Ombudsman, who took a year to decide AGAINST upholding my claim - ombudsman spent most of report unnecessarily dismissing misrepresentation (which I had conceded at an earlier stage) and relegated unsatisfactory quality to a minor issue that was dismissed without reason. Am now complaining about the ombudsman. In the interim, my Freelander has lost £10,000 in P/X value. I cannot use simple/cheap Small Claims Court route as this has an upper claim value limit of £10,000. County Court costs could reach or exceed value of the car. Forget Section 75:- because of the depreciation losses, you're better of just getting rid of a bad car ASAP. In summary, one has very little consumer protection when buying a new car (yes, it's there in theory, but in practice? - pah!).

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - PG2

I ordered a Toyota with a 3-6 week delivery date in May, with a £2500 discount on the dealer price. Everytime I emailed for an update, I received no reply and every time I called I was told they would call me back with an update. Not once did they return a call or email, and after 7 weeks, when I asked for a refund, they told me they couldn't get the car til Sept/ Oct. (but gave me a refund).

Thanks for wasting my time, but proves the old adage - if it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - atkinsonline

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with them but I stand by what I said above. Obviously we can only report on our own experiences.

Mine went one stage further after I wrote the above. When my first order for a car fell through, they offered to pay the road tax on my old car if it was about to run out as a good will gesture. I said it was not about to run out so they said they'd pay for a full tank of petrol for the new car. I filled the car the day it arrived, sent them the receipt and a cheque was sent back to me the following day.

Not a massive amount but an indication of a company that is not just trying to rip people off and is trying to provide a good service and cheap cars. So I'm disappointed to hear you had a bad experience. The point of my mesage is to say they can deliver on what they promise. I felt this particularly important when I saw somebody else here became so nervous that they pulled out and lost their deposit. I may have done the same if I'd only read negative comments here.


Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Laurie Ward

I ordered and received a new Toyota Auris Excel Hybrid through this firm aka Cort Vehicle Contracts (CVC). The process was certainly not straightforward and I had to become involved with both the vehicle supplier Burrows Toyota and the delivery company representative. The procurement was sourced from Burrows by CVC through a third party Bbh Claims in the Wirral Cheshire who registered the vehicle in my name but c/o that company's address. Partway through the process Bbh Claims ceased to trade and my V5C ,Toyota Club registration and warranty documents which had been directed by Burrows to me at the Bbh address became irretrievable. It has taken me personally at my mulltiple telephone calls expense and many wasted business hours to arrange for a replacement V5C at a further cost to me of £25-00 through DVLA Worcester as well as visits to Toyota Westlands Bromsgrove to rearrange the warranty address and Club Toyota registration. The many telephoned promises received from CVC that they would rectify the errors and omissions were not fulfilled; I was told by DVLA Worcester that no action had been instigated by CVC to rectify the V5C omission by replacement despite an email assurance that this would be done. To summarize I received a discounted new vehicle in good condition on the third notified delivery date but not without considerable hassle and further effort upon my part. I would not use CVC again.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - shrops_lad

I purchased a new Kia Sportage from Discounted New Cars aka Cort Vehicle Contracts back in Dec, car eventually arrived in May and we were initially very happy. However that turned to frustration. To date we are still waiting for the V5 despite sending many chasing emails. Most of the time you are lucky to get a response and then it is just broken promises. All I would say is buyer beware, I certainly would never purchase from this company again.

Edited by shrops_lad on 21/10/2013 at 23:29

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - johnmac99

Very interesting thread.

There is another company selling cars through HJ called

gbcardeals.com

Has anyone had any dealings with this company and are they any different to Discounted New Cars?

Their discounts are of a similar amount and it brings the new price of a car I'm interested in, within my price range.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - CatweazlesFriend

Very interesting thread.

There is another company selling cars through HJ called

gbcardeals.com

Has anyone had any dealings with this company and are they any different to Discounted New Cars?

Their discounts are of a similar amount and it brings the new price of a car I'm interested in, within my price range.

looking at the website details of both gbcardeals.com and cortvehiclecontracts.co.uk, they are very similar indeed!

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Smileyman

One easy way to find out more information is to go to the Companies House website and look them up, if necessary check the Directors for common Directors, also chekc the registered office address in case it's the same.

Note similar web sites might mean use of the same webdesigner, or a standard off the shelf package.

(just seen the date of this thread, from 2012 but brought back to life 28th December 2014! Still the comments are valid for any time in question)

Edited by Smileyman on 28/12/2014 at 23:07

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Actual

Apologies for digging up this old thread again, but I came across it when I was looking to buy a new Kia Sportage. Have been a long time lurker on HJ, but never posted before. Here we go.

Came across discounted-new-cars.com amongst a few others and the price looked good, actually got a better quote from Square 1 Leasing and when I realised discounted-new-cars.com was actually Cort (who I had heard of, because they are 2 minutes down the road from me), I was pretty close to pulling the trigger and placing an order.

I communicated with Steven at Cort via email mostly and was almost ready to place the order, but then I asked the question about pre-reg. Yes, it was a pre-reg - ok, I didn't have a problem with that, the other half's car is a pre-reg (from new-car-discount.com in 2010) and that was all OK (0 miles, brand new, V5 straight away).

Then came the question of V5 retention with Cort. They are absolutely adamant on retaining the V5 for 6 months. When I made it clear that I was happy to show a payslip to prove I was not in the motor trade, Steven's final email pretty much ended the negotations in one sentence. He advised me to go to a main dealer.

So, I won't be placing an order with Cort - that's a shame. After reading various forums it seems that V5 retention is no longer standard practice for the majority of brokers of pre-reg cars, Cort need to move with the times.

I'm not saying don't use Cort, my advise would be, just be aware of the deal upfront. This one is not for me.

Edited by Actual on 05/02/2015 at 19:36

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - quizman

You should use Carfile.net or Drive the Deal. Decent firms who put you in touch with the main dealer who you then do all the business with. You get the V5 straigh away. And it is not a pre reg car, without they tell you.

I don't know why people mess about with some of these other firms.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Avant

Does anyone know why they would want to hang on to the V5?

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - leaseman

These cars are heavily discounted by the Importer/ Manufacturer on the basis of a batch sale when they need to achieve targeted registration numbers or they have surplus stock.

They are generally sold on the basis of a six month retention contract to car rental companies, driving school operators etc. on the basis that the extra discount is justified by the "bums on seats" marketing argument.

The retention period is auditable, within the contract, and the inspection of the physical existence of the V5 is the stated method (the cars should be out on the road, being used for their stated purpose, so cannot be physically checked.)

These audits used to be more frequent, but are now rare or even non-existent, depending on the value of their "customer". Turning a blind eye is common.

The worrying part would be when the manufacturer/ importer has granted credit to the initial buyer, using the contracted Retention of Title clause as security. Thus the retail customer, who has purchased the car in good faith, is not necessarily obtaining title to the car, let alone the V5, which is retained to demonstrate that the car has not been sold!

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Avant

Many thanks, Leaseman.

Sometimes I ask a question which I think others as well as me might want answered, and nearly always someone in the know comes up with an answer. I like to think that's a part of what the forum is for.

Discounted New Cars - are these people ok ? - Actual

My final post on this thread. I've placed an order! (but not with Discounted New Cars aka Cort Vehicle Contracts). Steven is a nice guy, but their business model was not for me. I even dropped in unannounced at Cort and had a nice chat.

In the end, I went all away around the houses and ended up buying off a Kia main dealer less than 10 miles from my house, with a hefty £2,000 off list for a brand new, 1st registered Sportage.

For completeness sake, the following brokers either practice V5 retention or introduce you to a dealer who does the same. All were pre-reg:-

Discounted New Cars aka Cort Vehicle Contracts - 6 month V5 retention
Square 1 Leasing - 6 month V5 retention
Nationwide Cars - 5 month V5 retention
Broadspeed - introduced to dealer who pre-registers in buyers name, at their business address. V5 retention period not specified

It was also pointed out that I could not purchase the car using my own finance (where that finance was secured on the vehicle), due to the way these vehicles are registered (i.e. to fleets, companies etc), title remains with the manufacturer - the loan company refused to participate for obvious reasons!

What I can wholeheartedly recommend is Carwow. In the space of 24 hours I had 6 very very competitive offers, some from local dealers some from about 200 miles away. On the back of these quotes, a dealer very near to me lowered his Carwow offer and the deal was done yesterday afternoon.

My nearest Kia dealer outright refused to knock any more than £500 off. I was in the showroom for almost 40 minutes ready and willing to do a deal there and then. Their loss. Upshot is, not every dealership is willing to do a deal, it takes a little hunting to find one that will. Thank you Premier Kia Rochdale :-)

Edited by Actual on 14/02/2015 at 21:39

V5 retention - Big John

I thought it was - and still is illegal to run/drive a car that is not correctly registered to your permanent home address.

In addition - now that a car is taxed to you at your home address - this puts you at great risk of being fined automagically...

Edited by Big John on 15/02/2015 at 20:03