Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Leif

I've just collected a new VW Up, and I was wondering if the engine needs breaking in. From what I can find on the interweb, it looks like general normal driving is fine.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - unthrottled

There's no specified break in precedure any more. Nevertheless, I would still advocate varying the engine speed (avoid using cruise control), and avoiding very high revs. A few hard pulls in top gear should help bed the piston rings in. An early oil change wouldn't do any harm either, although it is not specified.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Leif

Thank you. There is no cruise control, but I know what you mean. As I am not an 'enthusiastic' driver, it sounds like it should be fine for my normal style.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - craig-pd130

to echo Unthrottled's point, giving the engine some work to do early on is a good thing -- ideally in the first 100 miles or so to help assist bedding the piston rings into the cylinder bores.

This means reasonably brisk acceleration (using half throttle or thereabouts) from, say, 2,000rpm to 3,500rpm (or around 35mph to 55mph) in 4th gear a few times. The engine should be thoroughly warmed up first (i.e. after 6 or 7 miles of driving).

Apart from that, just drive it!

Edited by craig-pd130 on 16/04/2012 at 22:06

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Leif
Apart from that, just drive it!

Thank you. It has a nice little engine. I did wonder if low revs is an issue, as it seems very happy doing low revs i.e. ~1000 rpm, not that I'd normally drive it like that.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - unthrottled

Craig-I agree. Avoid labouring the engine at very low speed and make sure it is warmed up first before full throttle acceleration.

The reason for varying the engine speed is for the benefit of the valvetrain.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Avant

There's advice on this site (Ask HJ - FAQs 15 and 16) which generally backs up the good advice already on this thread.

Do let us know how you get on with the Up.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Leif

There's advice on this site (Ask HJ - FAQs 15 and 16) which generally backs up the good advice already on this thread.

Do let us know how you get on with the Up.

Thanks, I'll try and remember to post a short summary. Thus far I cannot see any reason to argue with the guvner's review. :)

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Bobbin Threadbare

I have mentioned on another thread that I had a go in the Up! and it is so quiet and smooth. I wasn't even sure the engine was on at first!

I think you should take it for an Italian tune up; see what it can do ;-)

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - MikeTorque

I think you should take it for an Italian tune up; see what it can do ;-)

No don't do that, it will take years off the mechanicals. Run it in gently along the lines already mentioned, all the components are new and will need time to run in properly. Also ensure it gets serviced in good time.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - bathtub tom

I read a theory that you should thrash it hard within the first 10 - 20 miles of its life to bed-in the rings.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - unthrottled

You should work it hard, that means load, not RPM. Moderate speeds, not too little, not too much, Plenty of throttle. Babying it can lead to excessive oil consumption.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - craig-pd130

A thought that's always amused me about the running-in process is this.

By the time a new engine has run for a total of just 4 hours, at an average of 2,000rpm during those four hours, the pistons will have made around a million journeys up and down the cylinders :-)

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Bobbin Threadbare

Aside from the fact that the winking emoticon means I was joking (and it is funny to see a tiny little car bezzing along, as you know it's taken them 5 miles just to get to that speed), I don't see how you would damage the car by getting onto the motorway and putting your foot down for a bit (aside from your wallet regarding the petrol!)

Components for cars are tested to destruction and will not suffer from being worked. Craig's fact about the million piston strokes kinda proves my point.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - unthrottled

By the time a new engine has run for a total of just 4 hours, at an average of 2,000rpm during those four hours, the pistons will have made around a million journeys up and down the cylinders :-)

Your point being that what is going to happen will happen within the first few thousand cycles? Well, most people report that diesel engines, in particular, are quite tight when new, and don't achieve full economy or performance until they're at least 10,000 miles old, quite a bit more than 10^6 cycles!

The other point is that manufacturers give themselves the leeway of permitting heavy oil consumption; most say that a consumption of up to 1litre/1000 miles is acceptable. It isn't. Mine doesn't use a drop of oil between changes and I wouldn't be happy for a new engine (even a diesel) to use much either.

This is to prevent the manufaccturer having to tear down an engine with glazed bores and worn rings-at their expense.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - TeeCee

I read a theory that you should thrash it hard within the first 10 - 20 miles of its life to bed-in the rings.

I recall seeing that with particular reference to VAG vehicles. IIRC, the reason was that the additive laden long-life oils used to support their ludicrous service intervals, coupled with the lack of a running in oil and early service, means that gentle treatment from the start prevents bedding in and leads to excessive oil consumption later in life.

Then again, I don't remember a real thrashing being called for, just to avoid the temptation to drive it in the old gently-as-you-can, "running in" manner from the good old days.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Leif

I have mentioned on another thread that I had a go in the Up! and it is so quiet and smooth. I wasn't even sure the engine was on at first!

Yes, there are times when you wonder if it is an electric car. It has some nice features, such as a gear indicator, which includes an arrow if it thinks you should change up a gear, and a down arrow for the converse. I was surprised today to see it recommending 5th at 30mph. is that a good thing? I know low revs is supposed to equate to low fuel consumption.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Bobbin Threadbare

. I was surprised today to see it recommending 5th at 30mph. is that a good thing? I know low revs is supposed to equate to low fuel consumption.

5th at 30 says to me that the gears are too closely 'spaced', if you see what I mean.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - ChannelZ

Nothing goes like a rental or a Police car? Reason? Flat out from new.

Use it as you'd normally use it. Obviously don't go round in 1st gear at 6000rpm all the time. Make progress as you normally would.

I remember my father's work having to get a new engine in a Ford tractor after 50 hours, because the bores had shone up. They used it from new towing a trailer during winter, and not the usual PTO work with a flail mower during the summer, so there was next to no load on the engine. Ruined it. The replacement engine went stright to work with a hedge flail and rotovator, basically 3/4 to full load for a few weeks, that engine never used a drop of oil in 3000 hours, and was dynoed at 68hp (it was a 60hp engine).

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - unthrottled

Old diesels are notorious for bore glazing if they spend too long at idle. Big problem in recreational marine engines, where a big motor spends days idling, just to run a little generator.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Bilboman

Jeremy Clarkson had a special "touch" when breaking in new cars - especially cars he really didn't like: tinyurl.com/cwwoo5p

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - james120

Be aware that the "delviery miles" will have seen it being thrashed to **** by some 19 year old around the shipping yard.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Chris M

I've seen a new Up locally recently. I know it's a new Up because the registration says so.

N3W UP

I hope the owner didn't spend too much on getting the plate as it seems to me it has a fairly limited shelf life.

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - Falkirk Bairn

Running in

About 30/40 yrs ago a chap in his 50's mis read the handbook

No more than

1st gear 10mph

2nd gear 20 mph etc

He was in the middle of his 20 miles in 2nd gear, having completed 10 miles in 1st gear, when the engine blew up

Volkswagen Up - Breaking in a new car - craig-pd130

Similar tales from the motorcycling world of the 70s: newbies would be told by their mates that the red zone on the revcounter indicated the recommended running-in rpm :-/

A freelance motorcycle journalist once told me that he was on a factory visit to Yamaha in Japan and saw how the bikes randomly chosen for quality testing were treated: fired up, 30 seconds tickover to warm up then caned at 5-6,000 rpm through the gears before being prepared for shipping.

Edited by craig-pd130 on 23/04/2012 at 12:58