Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - ACE - Surrey

I am thinking of buying a red VW Golf, but it will sit outside all the time and I am concerned that it is a colour that will not weather very well. Is that still a concern with modern paints?

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - ChannelZ

Our neighbour has an uncared for Polo in red, and it hasn't faded, and it's probably 5 years old at least.

We have an i30 in red, and it's REALLY red, but it seems to have a clear coat, so no real chance of it fading.

I think even Vauxhall are putting a clearcoat on their red - my old Astra was Flame Red and went totally pink in 3 years, so much it was dubbed "Flame Pink". Even with T-cut, sealer wax and being well cared for, it went pink again within a year. Useless.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Bobbin Threadbare

My M-i-L has a red Golf. It's now 9 years old and the red is as red as ever. I wouldn't worry about it. I suspect that whatever else people think about VAG, cheapo paint isn't really one of their problems!

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Hamsafar

I was led to believe (by a bodyshop owner) that the fading was caused by ammonia in T-cut and some other such pastes of old.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - balleballe

I've seen plenty of old VW's in red looking very vibrant for old cars. Same for MB.

I've seen very faded Honda's and fords though

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - daveyK_UK
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Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - ChannelZ

I was led to believe (by a bodyshop owner) that the fading was caused by ammonia in T-cut and some other such pastes of old.

Yeah, that explains why all those red cars that never get washed also fade. It's the magic invisible T-Cut coming out at night that does it.

They fade because the paint oxidises. You can rub the white bloom off with your finger, leaving perfect red beneath.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Roly93

I was led to believe (by a bodyshop owner) that the fading was caused by ammonia in T-cut and some other such pastes of old.

Sorry this doesn't stack up. I think it was just due to poor quality paint and UV, especially if it was a car that was never polished.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - ACE - Surrey
Thank you to everyone who has contributed. In the end I got the best deal on a silver one. The only problem now will be finding it in the car park!

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - MikeTorque

The indicator lights will flash when you use your remote access key, makes it's easier to find in the car park.

VW reds are noted for their longevity. A coat of wax couple of times per year will keep them as new. Don't use T-cut, just a good wax.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - unthrottled

I wish my red paint would fade...

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - RT

I depends what the red paint is on, I guess due to the type of paint used, my neighbour has a pink (faded red) Honda CR-V with immaculate red bumpers, sills and lower cladding.

I made a decision many years ago never to have solid colours - the metallic/mica finishes reflect solar rays better and the clear-coat laquer acts as a sacrificial layer for some of the minor scratches/chips.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Chris79
Interesting to read the comments on vag paint. My last a3 seemed particularly prone to stone chips (no I was nt tailgating). This was attributed to it being water based paint rather than oil based. I believe all manufacturers are using this now due to ec legislation.

Does anyone have any thoughts on whether paying for the optionl auto gym treatment is worth it?, I always thought it a waste of money, but that decision was not based on hours of research!
Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Simon

Years ago car manufacturers used to paint solid colours with a direct gloss paint, ie if the car was black it was painted with a black top coat, if it was red a red top coat etc. Whereas the metallics had a coloured base coat, then a clear lacquer applied over the top.

Now this meant that the colour element of a metallic paint was always protected from the environment unlike the solid direct gloss colours which were at the mercy of the weather/conditions and in this case this is why the sun would fade the pigment of red paint most noticeably.

Nowadays pretty much all automotive paint has a coloured base coat whether it is metallic or solid, then has the clear lacquer applied over the top, hence why problems of fading red are a thing of the past.

Obviously the 'higher end' manufacturers were the first ones to do this with their solid colours and you will see red cars from the same era from different manufacturers where one is still bright red and one has gone pink. The actual quality of the paint used is negligable, it was the technique that counted.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - thirts

I have a 10 year old Yaris and whilst the original paint is still brights red, I can clearly see where is was respayed after being hit abot 6/7 years ago.

The respray was done at an approved garage but I've long since lost the details and can't recall when I started to notice the fading. It doesn't really bother me, it's our 2nd car and has suffered from other 'battle' damage due to being left on the road all the time. But I would try and avoid red in future because whilst I'd be confident in the factory finish, I couldn't be so sure of the long term quality of a respray it did suffer 'battle' damage

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - SteveLee

I've seen plenty of faded red Vauxhalls and VWs with the odd Honda thrown in for good measure.

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Carole4X4
From my time mixing with press, manufacturers etc I was told that no matter how good the bodyshop you could never ever match red paint exactly, even if the car was driven from the showroom and direct to a bodyshop.
Apparently the colour match would be great in normal light but under UV light you can always tell if a red car has been painted.

I invested in an UV detector ( the type they pass banknotes under) when I was looking at buying a car and found many red cars that the dealer/seller failed to declare had been repaired/repainted for whatever reason. Needless to say I walked away.

Not sure if this will be the same with more modern paint as I've been out of the motoring journalism business for about 9 years now.
Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - 1litregolfeater

Isn't it a weird marketing thing? Is modern technology unable to produce red paint?

Do modern red paints fade in the sun? - Gordon17

I have an 8 year old Nissan in bright non-metallic red which is washed once a year when it goes in for a service and has never been waxed.

The paint colour on all the metal parts is excellent, but some of the plastic parts have faded quite badly.