Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - Trilogy

2011 BMW 530D = Goodyear costs £347

My 1996 Mercedes E300D = Michelin was just under £69

That's a shocking difference that I must remember, if I buy a car similar to a 2011 BMW 530D in 10 years time!

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - 475TBJ

That disparity is crazy. Even on our A6 the tyres were sub £100. The growth in tyre size is totally unnecessary.

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - madf

That disparity is crazy. Even on our A6 the tyres were sub £100. The growth in tyre size is totally unnecessary.

No NO NOOOO

Read all the roadtests by spotty 26 year olds driving like nitters. I mean nutters.. or idiots. A bling wide tyre saves 0.0000001 second going round corners and "fills the wheelarches better".. (I quote from a muppet tester)

The fact that they costs more to fit, ruin the ride, ruin fuel consumption (See Prius T3 on 15 inch wheels vs T4 on 17 inch wheels - 3 mpg) and are more susceptible to rim and sidewall damage is irrelevant.

They make the tire makers more money in replacements.

Anyone as a private motorist who buys a new (to them) car without checking service costs and tyre costs is naive..

Edited by madf on 25/01/2012 at 09:59

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - unthrottled

Not to mention the stress they impose on the suspension. They always seem to lose tracking and the shoulders wear off after 6000 miles, leaving a contact width similar to...er...a normal width tyre. Chavvy rubbish.

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - ChannelZ

This is why you see high spec, luxury cars sitting in supermarket carparks with bald LingLong or Nankang tyres on them.

Parked beside a 4.4V8 X5 the other day outside Tesco. Rear tyres (factory fit Michelins) to the cords, fronts were bald Sunnys. Also seen an Insignia VXR (300hp!) with some cheap-ass Rotalla tyres wrapped around it's 20" rims.

I think I'd rather be on my 16" Hankooks on a wet motorway or a bumpy country road...

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - HandCart

On motoring forums, people are often scathing of those who fit cheaper, far-eastern brand tyres - "don't skimp on tyres, they're your only contact with the road". That's perfectly true, but tyres seem to be getting ridiculous these days. In 1985, yer Astra 1.3 could nevertheless top 100mph and would grip pretty strongly on a corner, yet came with 155/70x13s, which was a pretty standard size across that class of car. In 1995 a 208hp Impreza Turbo wore 205 or 215 (?) width tyres on 15" wheels. Nowadays you'll get something wider, lower profile, and bigger diameter, on something like an Astra 1.6!

How on earth were we not all falling off the road at every corner in 1985?!

When you see the cost of replacing a pair of Michelins of this size, for a bread-and-butter car, it's no wonder a private motorist frequently opts for some Nangkangs instead. And if you don't drive at ten-tenths ALL the time, they're probably perfectly adequate.

But unfortunately, when exploring the envelope, with more and more electric PAS, rather than being able to drive by feeling what the tyres are doing, it seems we will just become reliant on blind trust in the mechanical grip of the tyres. I think this is a contributory factor to the number of accidents experienced by the Playstation generation.

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - sb10

This is why you see high spec, luxury cars sitting in supermarket carparks with bald LingLong or Nankang tyres on them.

Parked beside a 4.4V8 X5 the other day outside Tesco. Rear tyres (factory fit Michelins) to the cords, fronts were bald Sunnys. Also seen an Insignia VXR (300hp!) with some cheap-ass Rotalla tyres wrapped around it's 20" rims.

I think I'd rather be on my 16" Hankooks on a wet motorway or a bumpy country road...

Yes you see more and more cars and 4x4`s with nearly bald tyres,but most people that buy these motors are tooo tight to buy them and plead ignorance if pulled by the law(see it on sky often enough) if they can afford a car like that they should know the maintenance costs as well

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - Andy P

You're not comparing apples with apples. The tyreson the 530D are Goodyear Ultragrip RFTs (245/40R18 IIRC), so they're bound to be more expensive.

Edited by Andy P on 26/01/2012 at 08:27

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - Trilogy

You're not comparing apples with apples. The tyreson the 530D are Goodyear Ultragrip RFTs (245/40R18 IIRC), so they're bound to be more expensive.

That's hilarious. You've totally missed the point.

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - Falkirk Bairn

Son got new tyres all round on an X6 last week 24,000 miles out of the originals

Cheapest for the 4 (back are wider than fronts) was an Aberdeen outfit - he got enough change out of £1100 to buy a Starbucks coffee. The back ones were £348 each including VAT.

"Soft in the head" - he is around 4.5p per mile for tyres

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - daveyjp

4 replacement tyres for a new S class AMG - £1300.

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - madf

4 new Michelin Energy tyres in 2011- including tracking - for my Toyota Yaris : £240.

2 new Uniroyal Rainmaster for Matiz: £80

Edited by madf on 26/01/2012 at 13:30

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - unthrottled

4 new Michelin Energy tyres in 2011- including tracking - for my Toyota Yaris : £240

Unlike the spray on tyres-I bet they don't lose tracking every time you drive over a discarded apple core either.

At the end of the 19th century people were discovering the massive benefits of pneumatic tyres. Depressingly, at the start of the 21st century some people are having to learn that lesson all over again...

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - madf

I am a sad person.. Yes really:-)

Before I buy any car, I just t find out the following costs:

servicing, new tyres, insurance and the availability and rough prices of things like brake pads, filters etc.

Takes about 45 mins to do thoroughly.. (ebay for spares for speed).

Car tyres are THE major motoring cost after fuel and insurance and RFL so it is worth looking at them.

It's not as if wide tyres have ANY practical advantages in real life and in snow they are useless and much worse than narrow tyres.

Anyone who buys cars for bling or for image is a universe away from me.

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - Collos25

4 x Khumo winter tyres for my Mercedes W211 £360 at MCC in Leeds last October cheaper than anything I could by in Germany..

Cost of tyres - 1996 Mercedes E300 v 2011 BMW 530D - unthrottled

In 1985, yer Astra 1.3 could nevertheless top 100mph and would grip pretty strongly on a corner, yet came with 155/70x13s.

Hardly surprising since the maximum grip of a tyre is given by F=muR

where F is the force, mu is the coefficient of friction between the tyre and the road surface and R is the weight borne by each wheel.

Lo and behold, contact area is not present in the relationship!

In actual fact, increasing the width of a tyre does increase the value of mu slightly-but it is slight. Even drag racers admit that wider tyres improve the 60 foot times by only a small margin.

Besides, the effective contact area on wide tyres soon reduces when the shoulders invariably wear down after about 5000 miles.

More show than go.