Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

Earlier this year a mate bought a Mazda MX-5. Unfortunately he hasn't enjoyed it as much as anticipated. He now wants to get something else. He's seen and driven a Mazda 3, 1.6, 17,000 miles, 2006, 5 door hatch, which would be £1300 to change. The Audi A3, 3 door, 63,000 miles, 2004 would be £1000 to change.

He likes both but wonders if the Mazda will depreciate more. He does about 9,000 miles a year. I think the Mazda would be the better buy but have read Mazda dealer after sales are not good. He likes to go to main dealers for servicing! I think he is swayed by the prestige of the Audi having had a MKV Golf before the MX-5.

Comments appreciated.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - gordonbennet

Main dealer servicing, he'd be better off looking at Toyota then, where the customer with a problem is not an interruption to more important matters or someone whose pants are to be pulled down at every opportunity.

If he didn't enjoy the excellent uncloned MX5 i doubt he'll get any pleasure at all from a standard eurobox whichever badge it wears.

What did he dislike about MX5.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Chris M

I'd be concerned about 17,000 miles in five years.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Bobbin Threadbare

You'd probably get more kit for your money on the Mazda. Sounds hardly used though! The Audi is fair mileage for its age.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

He says its too small for him and not practical as an every day car!!!!! I'd have one but a Jazz suffices for where we live.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Ethan Edwards

And now the old codger angle.

Which one has the comfiest seats? Last German car I was in was like sitting on a marble slab.

All things being equal I'd plump for the Mazda. Thats said the OP being a former Golf owner should feel right at home in a Golf in a party frock. Maybe it's just me but I look at the people in poverty spec Audi's and do feel a little sorry for them. They would appear to have chosen badge over everything else - just not that impressive to me.

When I ran used BM's I always went for the top of the range for the decent engines. Well Gubbermint tax greed has put a stop to enjoying lovely straight sixes for me!

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 25/10/2011 at 14:29

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Bobbin Threadbare

How can you buy a MX-5 and then say it's not practical...?!! Of course it's not practical; it's a convertible sports jobbie!! (And my next car more than likely....)

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Big John

What engine does the Audi A3 have?

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Auristocrat

We've had three Mazdas from new - a 53 reg 323 and a 53 reg Premacy bought on the same day, and a 57 reg Mazda 2 (which replaced the Premacy). All have been main dealer serviced - at the same dealer. The 2 has also had an insurance repair done at another Mazda dealer. Service at both Mazda dealers, whilst not in the same league as the Toyota dealer I used for my Corolla and use for my current Auris, has been good.

Edited by Auristocrat on 25/10/2011 at 18:09

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

How can you buy a MX-5 and then say it's not practical...?!! Of course it's not practical; it's a convertible sports jobbie!!

Bobbin, I agree but that's friends for you.

In response to the query about the Audi engine its 1.6 petrol.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Bobbin Threadbare

But they're so nice looking. Then again I think everybody knows I am a Mazda fan, all round.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Avant

For the same money he could get a Golf - younger and with average mileage - which would be a better bet than either.

Or didn't he like the Golf either? If not he won't like the A3 and had better go for the Mazda, or a Toyota Corolla / Auris.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

Latterly he had a few issues with the Golf which really paid him get rid of it. Last time I spoke to him he was going towards the Mazda.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - balleballe

I've driven a mazda 3 1.6 (petrol)

Seemed fine for city driving but it really lacked (IMO) on the motorway - especially overtaking. Perhaps something to consider?

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

His Golf was a diesel.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - madf

Sell an MX5 in winter? How to lose money.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - barney100

Mate of mine had Mazda and the bills for repairs to a quite new sports car...I don't recall the exact moide.....l were very expensive, could just have been bad luck of course.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - pugswhdi

Despite generally being a mazda fan my limited experience of a single 1.6 petrol mazda 3 is that I'm put off it for life. It was a hire car used for my 2007 summer holidays in SW England - i'd flown into Bristol airport. Assuming you can live with the styling... I recall it being totally under powered and even dull to drive. I also remember it using a lot more fuel than i thought it would (although it probably had very few miles on the clock).

If your mate does want a mazda 3 i'd recon spending good money on one with so few miles will only pay off if he will keep it for at least 5-6 years, otherwise he's probably right to assume a big depreciation hit when he wants to part with it.

That said I'm not too keen on poverty spec, small engined A3 models either. He's only doing 9000 miles a year and something (presumably style and driving pleasure) attracted him to the MX5 in the first place so why not go for a more interesting car altogether, albeit with a higher mileage to keep price to change down?

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

'Sell an MX5 in winter? How to lose money.' madf

I think he's barmy. It was bought in the summer so to part exchange, now......................he knows the cost to change for the 2 cars mentioned in the first post and seems happy.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Bobbin Threadbare

Is it worth SORNing the MX-5 to sell next spring? If he's giving it away I'll have it :-))

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

No, He'll need the ££ as a trade in. He's looking at a 28,000 miles Seat Leon today. It's about £600 less than the other 2, in non metallic red. It's a shame the present shape Civic doesn't have many in his budget.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

Just an update for everyone. He put a deposit on the Leon which actually was £800 less than the other 2. I don't know what he got for his MX-5.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - daiking

Not that I'm biased but I hope he enjoys the crashy ride and the awful interior of the Leon as the flat red paint turns pink. (joke)

Academic now but the performance from both the Audi and the Mazda would be meagre to say the least. Was the Audi a poverty, poverty spec 1.6 or just a poverty spec FSI? The joys of VAG cambelts and water pumps. No doubt its a nicer car to sit in, possibly a nicer ride too but when new it was probably £4-5K more than the mazda and its 2 years older now. At 7 years, maybe due a cambelt next year? How much will that cost at the dealer? ££££

The Mazda, well it will depend on whether its an early or late 2006 model but overall it is more than adequate and I've not suffered any bad dealer experiences. 'S' spec is poverty spec - avoid because of the hideous beige interior, 'TS' spec - better (dark) interior, alloys, air con, etc , TS2 - bigger wheels, more kit including ESP. My late 06, 1.6 petrol TS, chain driven cam ;) model is on 70k miles without a (mechanical) problem and I've owned it from new. Its a little worrying to find an example with only 17k miles though. Later 06 models have better kit, better claimed economy, better sound insulation. Economy will really depend on how you drive but mine only started getting regular decent returns (around 40mpg) once I got 40k miles under its belt. Even spending a several years crawling through 2miles of city traffic with a cold engine every morning before hitting the m-way still got me to average 35mpg which is fair rather than awful. You need to keep it below 3.5k rpm / 70mph in 5th on the motorway to see north of 40mpg which can slow progress somewhat. The OEM wheels will be corroded and the body and structure will rust well before the Audi too but mechanically I'd bet on the Mazda. The only potential fly in the ointment is if it was a TS2 as there is the potential for the dreaded Teves MK 60 fault with the ABS/ESP but this is also a problem on VAG cars although you're unlikely to get it on the poverty spec A3. Fortunately, dealers are now repairing at around £350 instead of replacing for £1500. If the car is 06, it will be due its 6 yr service next year whether its done 17k miles or the expected 75k miles. This will be quite pricey as there are a number of 2yr and 3 yr items that are due together. £££ (less than a VAG dealer cam belt and service I suspect)

Given the fickleness of the British public, the Audi will probably still be worth more than the Mazda in a few years time.

On a general note, it never ceases to amaze me when people say that cars like these are too slow. They are modern cars that weigh well over a ton and get approx 100hp for their small petrol engines, what do you expect? For instance, the Mazda has a fairly short 5 speed gear box and the accelerator pedal goes all the way to the floor, so use both and its got more than enough power for driving on British roads. The only time its lacking is if you are impatient enough to want to overtake on normal single carriageways but that is a problem that affects all the naturally aspirated petrol cars of this type. The 1.8 Civic is a little better in this regard but it does have the benefit of 40 more horses.

Modern turbo diesels have made British drivers lazy.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - Avant

When we give car buying advice on here we tend to forget the SEAT Leon. As it shares VAG mechanicals but doesn't hold its value as well as other VAG cars, it could be a good used buy.

I suppose the same goes for other SEATs.

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

daiking, Mazda 3 was a TS

A3 was a Sport

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - daiking

Even better.

You would need to have your very sensible head on to buy the newer Mazda over the Audi

Which would you buy? Mazda 3, 2006 or Audi A3 2004 - 475TBJ

A case of heart vs head. I probaly wouldn't have bought either. I believe the Seat wasn't the top spec. The guy is on holiday for a week, so wanted a deal wrapped up this week.