|
My attention to detail is terrible today. ^ ban NOT band!
|
|
Cut his hands off, and we'll all wind up paying for his motability car and and invalidity benefits! A ban is likely to be useless too, he or she seems to have little regard for the law.
Kneecapping might cramp the driving style though....
|
|
How the hell can you be on two phones at once? i mean........how does that even work?!?!?!
|
|
|
|
LOL.
It's hard to know what's appropriate punishment here; the guy already must've known that using a mobile whilst driving is illegal, and so is having no insurance, but he was doing it anyway. What's to stop him carrying on driving if say, he is banned completely? With that kind of disregard for the law he'll probably be back on the roads causing havoc anyway.
|
|
Well the car wouldve been seized due to no insurance, he'll get points on his licence, or if he doesnt have one he'll get points on a licence he doesnt have (thats a great way to encourage people to do it the right way isnt it) and after the judge has stopped laughing will probably receive a hefty fine + costs.
I was watching one of those fly on the wall road police show things the other night and they had some terrible clips from the UK, a woman on the M6 i think, 75mph, using her phone to film her journey lol, but the clips from places like India were just astonishing, four people on a motorcycle, on the phone and carrying a wardrobe. Seriously!
|
|
I think you are wrong regarding the car seizure they seize plenty for no insurance in bradford where my mother lives.Its not unusual to see the transporter taking a full load away, the police give the driver the choice of producing but the car does not move until its proven the driver has insurance if not its seized.
|
|
"Seized vehicles would only be released when evidence is provided that the registered keeper is no longer committing an offence of having no insurance and the person proposing to drive the vehicle away is insured to do so".
|
|
|
|
|
I am seeing more and more people texting whilst driving. Almost got hit by a woman who veered into my lane as she was too busy texting.
I was lost for words (other than expletives).
|
|
How am i wrong? I said they'd have seized it due to no insurance.
Then you proceeded to say im wrong and then repeat what i said?!?!
No matter what i say people on here say im wrong EVEN IF I AGREE WITH YOU?!?!
What is going on?!!?!?
|
|
You're always wrong Jamie! You should know that by now. :)
|
|
But i said what he said!! We both said the same thing!! And im still wrong?!?!
Wha....How...Whe...What...What the f*** is going on?!!?!?!?
|
|
|
|
|
Texting while driving is now the norm for thousands of motorists - I see it many times a day. You just need to be even more aware and look for the signs they are doing so. The classic being people who look into their lap whilst stopped at traffic lights.
If it's as dangerous as drink driving why not treat it the same - 1 year automatic ban.
|
|
I concur, it's ridiculously stupid.
|
|
|
|
|
As am I. It really really gets at me that people do it - they are just not paying attention to the traffic fully. What is worse is when you see a driver, on a mobile, with a b***** passenger next to them who could have answered the phone.
I am also ashamed to notice that it's mostly women on mobiles whilst driving (not that I haven't seen a large number of men, esp. van drivers). It makes me feel sick to see a woman with a car full of kids, chatting on her phone. I know we like to natter but if it's that important, park up and answer.
|
|
In my experience it is usually a woman on the phone, texting usually, what can be so important to text at that moment? "OMG driving atm LOL xx" ?!?!!?!
On Tuesday i took a wrong turn and had to go round the roundabout all the way to go back to where i was, woman on her phone waiting to pull out, saw me go round and assumed i was going to take the third exit where she was waiting and leave, obviously i didnt do that, and nor did i indicate that i was going to use that exit either, and she just pulled out, cos she assumed and wasnt paying attention, its a good job i saw what she was going to do before she did it really.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Only way to stop it is to fit a device to every car that blocks mobile signals, maybe this would get the human rights lot excited though. I agree about the number of women texting merrily away whilst driving. The police never seem to be around to catch offenders so as a previous poster said you have to be very care to keep out of the phone users way.
|
|
Just to redress the gender balance:
I merged on to the exit of an urban expressway (60 limit) to be met with the delightful sight of A honda Jazz with it's reversing lights blazing away. After crawling past the hazard, I stole a glance at the cretin behind the wheel. Ah yes! An 'experienced' gentleman hunched over the steering wheel...
When I arrived at the supermarket car park I saw another gentleman of less advanced years solemnly attaching a steering wheel lock to the steering wheel of his 2008(eight!) plate Corsa.
Imbecility, it seems, afflicts both sexes!
|
|
Well setting up a car to block mobile signals is a) an infringment on civil liberties, b) unneccessary as using a phone isnt illegal anyway providing you have two hands on the wheel and c) whatever they did in order to do that would be reversible and people who really wanted to get round it would get round it. It does make me laugh how this forum constantly decries any motoring law made by the EU on the basis that they shouldnt be allowed to interfear and their regulations are stupid and unrequired (on matters of proper safety like being able to see cars etc) yet the same people then say the UK should make cars to ban phones from working. Imagine if the EU came up with that, you'd probably all head onto the streets with machete's.
EU make a law saying car makers have to fit their cars with DRL's and you all get out of your tree calling it outrageous, then everybody sits around saying drink drivers should be hanged, people on phones shot, slung in prison for a decade etc, or one from earlier was to have hands removed. Its strange.
I dont expect any driver to be perfect but i expect all to at least make an effort to do their best, which some just dont. Im far from perfect, have i used a phone while driving? Yes, one isolated occasion, but yes. Have i gone over 100mph on a public road? Yes, yes i have, am i saying its right? No.
Am i becoming a question talker? Yes, i believe i am.
Is it very annoying? Yes, i believe it is.
|
|
Texting whilst driving should be 11 points and 10 years on licence, serious money fine and a very long ban.
|
|
I think our lawmakers would view that as punishment not fitting the crime, as speeding can be three points, yet texting at the traffic lights 11 points, you'd need a massive rewrite of the whole book for that.
|
I think our lawmakers would view that as punishment not fitting the crime
& that Jamie is my whole problem with our criminal justice system.
It looks to "punish" reletive to other similar (a bit worse / a bit less worse) crimes instead of what I believe should be its main objective which is the protection of the public.
|
|
|
I think our lawmakers would view that as punishment not fitting the crime, as speeding can be three points, yet texting at the traffic lights 11 points, you'd need a massive rewrite of the whole book for that.
....
.........but then how does your view sit with a random breath test?
A driver today could be pulled, found to be just over the limit and given 11 points, a hefty fine and a ban. Lawmakers seem to think that punishment fits the crime.
I think that we all are at greater risk from someone reading or writing a text as they drive than from a driver that is just over the drink drive limit.
|
|
The punishment for drink driving is highly variable also though isnt it, theres never a one size fits all element about our justice system and that is the best thing about it. We invade countries who use one-size-fits-all in their courts. Personally i think the real talking point of the matter is the fact our drink drive limit is reasonably high anyway and perhaps an almost zero-limit approach would make the whole system simpler as alot of people simply dont know how many units add up to be over the limit.
Alcohol affects everybody differently, but distraction from staring at a phone would pretty much affect everybody the same, you're either paying attention or you're not, but do i think someone sending a text at the traffic light deserves the same punishment as someone double the drink drive limit? No. Its all about proportion.
|
|
.
Indeed the punishment for DD is variable but only the length of the ban, the number of points and the size of the fine / imprisonment, all persons caught will receive points and a 12 month ban minimum.
The same minimum penalty should apply to persons caught texting/tweeting at the wheel.
The longer we ignore the problem the more it becomes the norm. You've only got to stand and watch traffic at a busy junction to see evidence every few moments.
Alas I fear nothing too draconian will be implemented as the lawmakers / politicians are probably often guilty of the offence themselves.
Edited by Berisford on 28/05/2011 at 18:11
|
The longer we ignore the problem the more it becomes the norm. You've only got to stand and watch traffic at a busy
Who cares if someone checks their phone while waiting at a red light? As long as they put it down and are ready to take off when the lights change to green!
I doubt texting while moving will ever be the norm. Remember that golden age of driving? It never existed.
|
|
|
|
|
I run my own company. It is a condition of employment (and part of the employment contract) that you will not use a mobile while driving. We apply this to hands free sets too. In the commercial world no one or nothing is so important that it cannot wait until you are able to stop.
So far we have not had a single problem but anyone breaching this in the company's time would be subject to summary dismissal. We have had nothing but praise and support from our customers.
|
|
When the vehicle is stationary i dont see the problem with reading a text or whatever. I have seen people text/use phone while drive but i dont think texting and driving is something the majority do, far from it.
I wouldnt be able to do it if i tried, maybe that makes me totally useless LOL
|
|
Well I'm sure most people can pat their head and rub their tummy simultaneously, but driving and texting is a whole different league.
It's £60 spot fine and 3 points currently, but if they take you to court you can get slapped with up to a grand's fine.
I read another article about excuses people have given when caught by the busies. The one that made me laugh most was a fella who got pulled over; on his mobile, speeding too, and told the copper that he urgently needed to get to the supermarket and get a cucumber for his wife.
|
I read another article about excuses people have given when caught by the busies. The one that made me laugh most was a fella who got pulled over; on his mobile, speeding too, and told the copper that he urgently needed to get to the supermarket and get a cucumber for his wife.
We don't know what his wife was like, it might have seemed an exchange too good to miss?
|
|
And they say romance is dead...
|
|
...might be if the cucumber was infected with ecoli.
|
|
Eh?
Was this a mistake? If, so I'll remove it for you.
|
|
|
|
