Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

I'm looking to buy a used Mazda MX5. Have seen one locally, seller is asking £2000+ for it. It is the Mazda MX5 Monaco. He states it is in excellent condition ect.

Is this a fair price & what should I be inspecting if I view it?

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - dieselicious

what age, mileage, condition is it? impossible to help without those......

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

It's 1996 1.6 model.

I haven't been to view it yet, but the description says it's in very good condition. Had 1 owner from new.

Mileage is down as 56903.

Full service history, Tax & 1 yr MOT.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - Jonesy127

In my opinion, the one MX-5 model to avoid is a late Mk1 ('95, '96, '97) 1.6; it was detuned by Mazda from 115Bhp to 88Bhp, and it cannot be reversed.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - ohsoslow

If it is a UK 1.6 it may be the 90bhp engine rather than the 110bhp, I think, Eunos Japanese import. I found it to be a nice, free reving engine but obviously a bit down on power.

Check the sills, from the rear wheel arch to a seam beneath the doors, these rot out and cost about £300 each side to repair properly.

The hood may still be the original. Check it out well, the rear window may be plastic that discolours or cracks but can be replaced. New hoods are about £350 I think. Make sure it folds up and down quite freely and isn't split where it folds over the doors.

Check the carpet on the ledge behind the seats, this may be damp or mouldy due to blocked drains. Rain water from the hood is channelled down through drains behind the top seat belt anchorages. If these get blocked the water will soak into the carpet and eventually drop into the floor under the seats. So also look under the seats.

Check the windows wind up and down smoothly, whether handraulic or electric.

Check that the pop up lights work smoothly.

The driver's seat may be worn on the outboard bolster, but at the stated mileage I doubt it.

Look at the suspension wishbones and the underbody as a whole for rust.

Look in the boot to see that it is dry and if you can, take the cover from over the battery on the right hand side and look to see that the floor under the battery has not rotted..

Make sure you drive it, or at least have the owner take you out in it. The mileage is very low, so most stuff should still be tight. The gears should be very slick and easy and the steering should be nice and direct. Slight gear change notchyness can often be cured by renewing some seals at the base of the gear stick and some fresh oil, an easy and cheap job that takes about an hour.

The brakes, of course, should work well, but check that the hand-brake works , the rear calipers can sieze up. Have a good look at the discs to make sure they are not pitted.

These engines do best with regular oil and water changes. The water should ideally be changed every couple of years using distilled water, unless your tap water is very soft. The channels in the engine are apparently quite small so are easily blocked by calcium build up.

Finally check that everything is straight, the slam panel in front of the radiator, the boot floor etc.

Hope this helps and things go well for you, it looks like it could be a good one. Price, not sure, but if it looks good you can always haggle.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

Thanks for the replies.

How much is it to change the rear window? Obviously I haven't seen the car yet, but if it does need replacing, it would be good to know how much it would cost. Also, does any MX5 hardtop fit?

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - ohsoslow

Can't help you with the price of the window, there are many companies around who do soft top replacement / repairs. As far as I know, any hard-top for Mk 1 or Mk 2 will fit.

At the mileage the car has I think it is near time for a cam belt change. Not a too frightening job, but while there it is adviseable to change the water pump as these tend to start leaking soon after a new cam belt. The engines are non-interference, so a broken cam belt shouldn't wreck the engine but could be very inconvenient.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

Cheers!

Just looked on a free valuation site & it's recommending a price which is almost £1000 cheaper than the seller is asking. Not sure whether the valuation is totally correct, but would anyone consider haggling on a buy it now from ebay or would I be wasting my time?

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - ohsoslow

Me again, I keep thinking of odd things ref these cars.

I think that £2000 is a bit steep, it may be a really good car, but any problems with the hood etc will give you a good reason for serious haggling. Check inside of the hood over the cabin for signs of mould and of course if there is a serious damp problem there will be a mouldy smell.

The foot wells are also places to look for signs of damp, the hood may not seal well where it meets the windscreen and the door seal drain may be blocked. If you look at the door seal it forms a tube which drains the water away.

When starting these engines from cold there may be a short period of tappet rattle. This is quite normal as long as it only lasts a few seconds. This is due to the oil having drained away from the tappets. It is advised that only Mazda oil filters are used which should help reduce this.

Back to the suspension....try to check that the coil springs are intact, I had both of my rear springs snap at the very bottom on my first 5. Inside of the springs is a rubber boot, these often perish, though not being an MOT failure, they protect the dampers so could be another reason for haggling.

I will check this site again tomorrow should you need any more help. I am by no means an expert, but I have had MX-5s for a while now.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

Thanks again for all your help.

Going to view the car today. I don't intend to agree to buy it today, as my other half & I will need time to disucss it.

Not being a mechanic, I will try and check out all what you mentioned, but I'm not 100% clear what I'm looking at when it comes to under the car.

I'll report back my findings and hopefully will be able to haggle him down.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - madf

but I'm not 100% clear what I'm looking at when it comes to under the car.

May I respectfully suggest::-

If so, you are buying a 13 year old car.# You need expert help - either a friend or a professional opinion.

Otherwise, you are fair game for any shyster in my view...And when old cars are concerned, shysters come out of every corner...

or 14 years old.. By the law of averages, it should be sc***ped as the average life of a car in the UK is c13.5 years...

Edited by madf on 12/08/2010 at 17:24

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

Don't hold the same opinion as you when it comes to old cars. Thanks for the advice tho'.

I bought the car! It's in great condition for it's age, there was nothing I could haggle the seller on. The seller had pretty much covered every eventuality.

Now I'm looking for a hard top for it. Where is the most reliable place to buy one?

I also need to sell my old car, & am unsure how to go about selling it. I ideally want an easy way to get rid, but at the same time don't want to be ripped off by selling it to webuyanycar.com

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - martint123

By the law of averages, it should be sc***ped as the average life of a car in the UK is c13.5 years...

Maybe the law of averages for british built cars, but the MX5's just seem to go on and on. Mine was 1990 and 140000 miles when I got rid this year and other than springs, discs/pads and a clutch in the seven years I had it, no problems and a delight to tinker with.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - ohsoslow

Good result.

I don't do hard tops or even have the roof up as mine is a fine weather only toy. I would think ebay would be a good place to look or occasionally they will come up on the MX-5 owners club site.

Like most things, look after the 5 well and it should keep going for some time with little trouble. They are fairly uncomplicated with none of the flash gizmos that modern cars seem to be full of.

Hope you enjoy the car, they are great fun for little money. We just need a little sunshine now.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - Jonesy127
"Reliable" place to buy a hardtop? Probably from an MX-5 specialist like Sam Goodwin or Dandycars.

You'll probably have to pay more than the £500ish average, though (secondhand).

Edited by Jonesy127 on 13/08/2010 at 12:36

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - Marc

"Now I'm looking for a hard top for it. Where is the most reliable place to buy one?"

They are £1k new from mx5 parts but ebay is your best bet.

Read this guide first as not all hardtops go on all cars due to revised latches and the HRW wiring loom :

http://www.miata.net/garage/hardtop/

Expect to pay anywhere between £300 and £600. More in autumn/winter. They are invariably always heavily bid. Try and seek out one that is already in your colour, although many people respray them. You need to be careful with the flat BRG paint on the Monaco as later cars were met BRG IIRC. Guide to your car here :

http://www.mx5-3rdgenerationlimited.com/monaco.htm

Enjoy.

Edited by Marc on 13/08/2010 at 12:57

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

Managed to get the hardtop that originally came with the car. The previous owner still had it & the seller I bought the car off, contacted the owner & I bought it for £300.

A couple of issues: the alarm dosen't seem to working. The lights flash as if the car alarm has set, but even rocking the car isn't setting it off. Can this problem be sorted out?

When winding the windows down & up seems a bit tight. They move smoothly, but still tight. I'm wondering if this is due to the previous owner not winding them up & down.

Also, I need a small centre badge for one of the alloys. Any idea where I'll pick one up?

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - pitchbend

Alarm is working when I open the doors.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - ohsoslow

Alarm! you must have a posh one, mine have only had immobilisers.

To sort the windows properly I think you will find that the door cards and the plastic membranes have to be removed in order to get to the workings. Then lubricate anything and everything that may need it including all of the locking mechanisms.

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - Jon P

Pitchbend,

I've got a '96 Monaco and the windows are stiff to move like yours. You just have to be firm with them. I was a bit worried that the handle would break but I noticed that when my local Mazda independent wound the driver's window down to hear the engine better, he gave the winder some right welly, so I assume that it is normal.

Happy motoring. I chose the Monaco because it doesn't have many of the parts fitted (air-con, power steering, central locking etc) which give trouble at 14 years of age. You get a lighter, apparently better balanced, car which will easily give you 40mpg.

Edited by Jon P on 18/08/2010 at 21:36

Mazda MX5 - Valuation & features - Marc

"the alarm dosen't seem to working. The lights flash as if the car alarm has set, but even rocking the car isn't setting it off. Can this problem be sorted out?"

It will be an aftermarket alarm. Standard alarms didn't come in until the Mk2.5 I think.

"Also, I need a small centre badge for one of the alloys. Any idea where I'll pick one up?"

Try ebay. mx5parts sell them new but they're pricey. Be careful you get the right size.

Good news on the hardtop.