Nissan Leaf - the car to drive the recovery? - Sulphur Man
So, Leaf prices have been announced, and I think Nissan have got it bang on.

£23K for a mid-size hatch is dear of course, but personally I just cant get the 100 miles for £1 running cost out of my head. Especially after the once-a-week £60 pain I feel visiting the forecourt.

1 years fuel costs for me is approx £2700, or the price difference between the Leaf and a conventionally powered rival, which would probably depreciate much faster than a Leaf too.

Here's the rub though, for this hugely promising vehicle to take hold, it absolutely needs the Fast Charging points to proliferate quickly. Personally, I can accomodate the Leaf's 8 hour home-mains charging time in my weekly routine, but for many, they would need the flexibility of plentiful charging points or zones.

So...get Leaf 'Fast charge' zones into shopping centres, town car parks, airport car parks, wherever people congregate and, usually, spend money. Quick 30min charge, for a small price. Spend some of the petrol money which used to be siphoned from your bank account on goods and services, just when they need it, and when all done, head home on your zero-emission, £1-way.

If I start seeing charging points in my usual haunts, it wont be long before a Leaf is on the drive. £1 for 100 miles.....

Edited by Sulphur Man on 17/05/2010 at 15:54

Nissan Leaf - the car to drive the recovery? - Sofa Spud

I posted a thread recently about electric cars in general. The niche market for pure electric cars and vans is among customers for whom long range isn't an important factor.

My guess is that as far as passenger cars are concerned, the greatest sector for battery cars is 2-seat urban commuter cars used as second cars. Whether there's a big market for family sized electric cars in the Focus / Golf sector I'm not so sure. I would have thought range-extender hybrids, which are a close relative of pure electrics, would be more suited. However, even if the market for Ford Focus sized electrics is small, Nissan will probably have all of that market to itself for a few years - although I read that an electric VW Golf is planned for 2014.

Edited by Sofa Spud on 17/05/2010 at 16:18

Nissan Leaf - the car to drive the recovery? - colinh
"...£23K for a mid-size hatch..."

Before getting too starry-eyed, isn't the price FROM £23,350 - would sir like metallic paint, alloy wheels, etc - oh £26,000 OTR. Compare with a Focus - FROM £14,645 (list price, probably available for £12,000 or less) - so your commuter vehicle is twice the price for a vehicle that is only going to provide probably 70% of a family's overall transport requirements

Edited by colinh on 17/05/2010 at 23:26

Nissan Leaf - the car to drive the recovery? - Avant

Lots of good points in Sofa Spud's thread, so have a look if you haven't seen it.

I've yet to read anywhere in the press an answer to the question that many people are asking and which I posed in that thread (and will repeat here):

SWMBO, who is on her third Mini, works from home and does a low mileage: a Mini E would suit her if it came down in price, but only because we have a garage with a power point. Most people who drive in towns and cities (where the electric car would be most practicable) have to park on the street. What do they do - run a cable from the house for someone to trip over and sue, or for teenagers on the way back from the pub at night to unplug for a jolly jape?

Nissan Leaf - the car to drive the recovery? - veryoldbear

Agree with Sofa Spud. I can't see the demand for electric four door four seaters. Much better to shoot for two door two seater hatchbacks as shopping / commuting cars. Go for very light weight to maximise range and performance.

And how long do the batteries last ? If they only last say four years this will have a serious impact on depreciation.