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CGN, I understood that one criteria to dial 999 is if a crime is still in progress?
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Oilrag, 'members of the travelling community' is the politically correct and preferred term. Not a nasty little comment, but when people choose to live outside of societal norms and dip in for the bits that they want, it's hardly surprising (to me anyway) that others object. Some people make themselves the subject of dislike and distrust through their own behaviour. And yes, I have a huge amount of experience with people from ALL elements of society.
Maybe it's Ok to block a road for a horse race. I could be persuaded with reasoned argument but I won't hold my breath. I could list the various crimes and the methods routinely used to commit them committed by certain groups in society and be persuaded that they're OK too. Even the trivial little ones like going into the hospitals and taking the nappies and baby feed on a regular basis (then hopping back into the new Merc to leave), having dropped off a couple of family members to pretend to be water board officials and stealing OAP's cash/jewellery. Yes, I wonder if I could be persuaded. I wouldn't advocate Hitler's methods and regard the comparison as fatuous at best. Look forward to your reply!
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If I recall I read or heard that along with 999 the Gov was introducing 112 and it was free on mobiles -didn't know 999 was free though -- seems my post was slightly "clipped" even though I never said "traveller's or any other word or slang term to mean same" but it seems even the vague reference was politically incorrect.
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I hardly think that a trotting race was 999 material. BY the time the old bill have arrived its gonna be all over. If you wanted to shop someone photos on your mobile and a call to the chief constable afterwards would have done, not an emergenty call.
As far as the "traveling community" goes, round here they are thieving violent scum. Nothing traveling or romany about them, merely a desire to live outside official records (like fixed place of abode) so they dont have to contribute anything to local coffers and it makes them harder to trace while engaged in larceny.
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Let me just get this right - 112 is the same as 999 which is the number you dial if you are held up in traffic?
So is there a new real number to dial when you want the police to come and deal with an emergency? Or don't they do that sort of thing any more?
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Here in Hampshire you can dial 101 for a non-emergency alternative to 999.
Does this work elsewhere in the country?
Edited by RobertyBob on 25/01/2010 at 15:23
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Altea - well, Yes! Succinctly put. I was trying to avoid being pulled by the mods.
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Does this work elsewhere in the country?
Well i rang 101 to report kids flinging snowballs at cars i justified it becasue if someone panics they where going to skid on the compacted ice.
I was told that it wasnt supported in my area (Durham/Darlington), and to dial 999 - which i did and am not ashamed for doing so.
(partly becasue i was victim of my car being hit by snowballs it really infuriates me)
Edited by redviper on 25/01/2010 at 15:52
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(partly becasue i was victim of my car being hit by snowballs it really infuriates me)
i hope your kidding.!!
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 25/01/2010 at 19:33
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200 weeks has an interesting article on the original subject, along with some even more interesting comments:
200weeks.police999.com/archives/2382
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AE
I beg to differ - when a 4x4 and transit van are blocking the road (a two lane A road) so no one can pass and oncoming vehicles are confronted with white van man who only pulls in at last minute I call this dangerous - also when one trotter pass's another it's not a quick in and out - last one I saw took half mile and traffic coming towards us had to slow and pull right into their near side.
If that was you and I can you see us being able to do it every Sunday morning - I doubt it very much.
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> (partly becasue i was victim of my car being hit by snowballs it really infuriates me)
Seriously? 999? The mind boggles.
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I thought 999 was a "life at risk" number.
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"Does this work elsewhere in the country?"
No. Round here (Cheshire) the non emergency nbr is an 0845 nbr. 0845 678678, I think.
Many years ago I didn't join the RAC because they had different numbers for different regions. How am I supposed to know which of your abitrary regions I'm in based on a map of the UK that is 2 inches from top to bottom? And it was a pay number, so be sure always to carry the right change. I went instead for one with ONE Freephone nbr. Time the public services caught up I reckon.
JH
Edited by JH on 25/01/2010 at 16:27
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I agree with AE that trotter racing on A roads isn't the enormously big deal some people seem to think it is. Actually I think it's quite sporting, and it makes me smile.
They ought to use a stretch of dual carriageway though.
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They ought to use a stretch of dual carriageway though.
Let them use the motorway 3 lanes it's fair game then get it on youtube.!
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I only wanted to report it, I dont think I could have lived with my self when there is about 6 teenagers throwing snowballs with rocks in them at cars on a 40mph road outside my house packed with ice and someone had a accident
Ive never had to diall 999 in my life and i was only doing what i was told to do on the 101 number - the lady @ the police said i did the right thing anyway.
Ive tried ringing the local police station before, only to be told usually its "not our issue"
I have nothing to hide i always give full name and address when i ring and i was simply doing what i was told
i HATE driving on compact ice, and i dont apreaciate it when Im concentrating on my driving to be bombared with about 6-7 snowballs at once. by the same youths that tryed to kick of my wing mirror on my old car leaving a big muddy scratch down the side
If anyone else its going to say its right or wrong to dial the police when i want to report something - then give me a alternative instead of "your area doesnt support it" or its "not our issue"
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then give me a alternative instead
Next time stop get out of the car and have a snowball fight if all the other drivers do the same they will run off much better than calling the police who have much more important things to do.!
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Whats the point, i will probably get arrested for that.
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Whats the point, i will probably get arrested for that.
Yes but it would be worth it.!!
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Next time stop get out of the car
I did that, and had a bit of a rant - it was rewarding to hear "Sorry, mister!". I wonder whether they threw any more - perhaps not, as they seemed rather surprised!
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And it does work!
I was parked up for the night in the lorry one snowy night a couple of years ago in Washington Services on the A1M.
I had my cab lights on and was watching the snow when I suddenly heard a thud. There was about 5 teenage lads who had spotted a female driver in a lorry ( parked for the night alone) and had decided to snowball the cab.
I had a quick think and wondered whether to move illegally, spend a restless night not knowing if they would come back, or if to have a bit of fun with them.
I jumped out and snowballed them back. We had great fun for about 10 minutes, when I said 'Right, that's it lads, I'm knackered'
They all had a laugh, said goodnight and I never heard anymore of them.
I was wet but it was worth it:)
It's not a good area to be parked in, hence the wariness!
Pat
Edited by pda on 25/01/2010 at 17:58
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What a sweetie you are Pat.
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...I agree with AE that trotter racing on A roads isn't the enormously big deal some people seem to think it is. Actually I think it's quite sporting, and it makes me smile...
There have been several fatalities on the A66 near Appleby in Westmoreland as trotters make their way to the annual Appleby horse fair.
Most common scenario is trotter rammed from behind, killed, and the driver of the ramming vehicle is charged with causing death by dangerous driving and goes to prison.
I've a little sympathy with the drivers, the A66 is mostly dual carriageway and the trotters might as well be standing still given the speed differential.
Having said that, there's no excuse for driving into the back of something, no matter how slowly it's going.
Lots of signs along the lines of 'Caution: slow moving horses and carriages,' have been put up in recent years.
Even the variable message boards at Scotch Corner are used for this purpose, so any driver cannot say he was not warned.
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No-come up behind the trotter and lean on the horns-must add about another 20mph. to it's performance.
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My money is on the horse followed by the fiat with twin FIAMM airhorns.....
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failing that confiscate their equipment and sell the horses for dog food, which they will probably do anyway.
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Further to the 112 posts. Enhanced 112 is coming in (or is already available in some places) and this will enable the emergency services to pinpoint your location without you telling them.
Useful if, like me, you can't remember exactly where you and can only give a rough indication.
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