What obstruction? if you can get your car out there isnt one.
Edited by Altea Ego on 06/12/2009 at 14:01
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Buy a £100 banger and park there when its empty.
As long as other car is parked legally you have no recourse.
Though you can write to council about this matter.
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We have similar problems here. Very narrow road and too many cars. If something is parked opposite my drive it requires a multi point turn to get in or out.
I agree with GB. Get into the habit of reversing on to your drive. Generally, it makes things easier when you want to leave.
Edited by Humph Backbridge on 06/12/2009 at 14:01
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Thanks for all the suggestions. To those who feel it isn't an issue or suggest I should reverse in, I'd have to disagree. Whilst reversing in might make it easier to get out of my drive, it wouldn't solve the problem that effectively these idiots are depriving me of one of my parking spaces as I don't think you could easily reverse in with another car on the drive. There actions are all the more annoying because in many cases they park accross my drive rather than use their own drive.
I have already considered 'accidently' reversing in to one of their cars and have nearly done so on a couple of occasions. Whilst its tempting, I don't wan't to stoop that low though I might yet change my mind as my current car will be being scrapped as soon as its replacement arrives (replacement is going to be fitted with a tow bar :-) ).
I have also thought about parking my car opposite my drive rather than in it but I feel that that won't get the message accross sufficiently. I've decided that the best way to make the point is to park bang opposite their drive for a week or so and see if that gets the message accross. Unfortunately doing so will involve inconveniencing another of my neighbours as well, but I just had a word with him and he doesn't mind for a week or so which is very understanding of him.
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>>> I've decided that the best way to make the point is to park bang opposite their drive for a week or so <<<
Good man/woman - that's what I would have done, don't consider reversing into their car though as it may lead to fisticuffs and you'll lose - whether you win or not.
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Why not park across your own drive for a while? That way he won't be able to park on the opposite side of the street to you as he would block the road off.
I have a double width drive and only one car
Alternately, as you've got a double drive, why not invite him to use the spare parking space you have available?
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 06/12/2009 at 15:05
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Why not play him at his own game and borrow another car to park on your drive for a short while. This way when he parks up and you can't get out of your own drive you can call the old bill with a view to them having to have his car towed away for causing an obstruction.
Even if it doesn't get quite that far I am sure it would cause him some embarrassment with his colleagues with them having to turn out to a fellow police officer being a nuisance neighbour.
I reckon that he would soon get the message without damage needing to be done.
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OK, job done now parked opposite his drive, will wait & see what happens. I'm also determined that whatever the weather, I'll be cycling to work next week so the car can sit there for the week.
Simon - I like your idea, I'll keep it in reserve.
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>>OK, job done now parked opposite his drive, will wait & see what happens
It won't affect him, he doesn't appear to use his drive... :-)
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I think the orginal poster and his neigbour deserve each other.
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I think the neighbour and Altea Ego deserve each other. :)
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good job you dont live in my road then Ifi.
Edited by Altea Ego on 06/12/2009 at 15:46
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Can you be sure that I don't?
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Can you be sure that I don't?
yeah, its posh here.
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I agree with AE, if the OP can get his car out then there's no obstruction...
But another alternative would be to borrow someone's SORN'd car and park it on the OP's drive, if he really then can't get his car in and out then he will have a valid case surely?
Edited by b308 on 06/12/2009 at 15:53
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I always find these parking games of chess quite fascinating in a strange kind of way. I think it's all the weird and wonderful passive-aggressive ideas such as parking old bangers in the way and doing the same thing back to the previous person.
Let's face it. The neighbour can legally park there, so there's no point trying law enforcement. You could deliberately or accidentally reverse into their car, but then you're at fault for reversing into a stationary object.
The way I see it, there are three solutions:
* Reverse into your drive to make leaving easier
* Park on the street
* Write a letter to the correct area of your council with pictures and diagrams showing your situation. That may make them add double yellows to that area - although I expect your neighbour would appeal against it.
Apart from that - you'll just have to learn to get on with each other.
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"OK, job done now parked opposite his drive, will wait & see what happens. I'm also determined that whatever the weather, I'll be cycling to work next week so the car can sit there for the week."
See what i mean Ifi?
the Original poster is just as bad as the other guy.
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Of course AE is right. The OP strongly implies that it is even possible to reverse two cars into his driveway, although he says it 'isn't easy'.
What on earth makes anyone think every aspect of driving has to be 'easy'? Of course it is more than apparent that many do, for one sees them on the road every day making a pig's ear of elementary manoeuvres and systematically getting in the way. Perhaps if they understood that there are some things that are slightly more difficult then they would be able to shape up and practise until they found them at least possible.
Even a tight awkward manoeuvre becomes easier when you have done it a few times.
My recommendation is that the OP lies in wait for the irksome police neighbour and then commits an assault on him with a non-lethal blunt instrument - a rubber cosh say. That'll learn both of them.
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I always find these parking games of chess quite fascinating in a strange kind of way.
Yes, I do too. I'm wondering how long until one of the parking games on this forum ends in violence.
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>> I always find these parking games of chess quite fascinating in a strange kind of way. Yes I do too. I'm wondering how long until one of the parking games on this forum ends in violence.
keep watching - this one has potential.
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You'll just have to learn to get on with each other.
Absolutely, harib. If it is still possible to get in and out, you have no particular rights or control over what others do outside your property. All you can do is ask nicely whenever you need to. If the neighbour is unco-operative that is unfortunate, and as M.M. says above, extremely irritating. But if things descend into guerrilla warfare, that can be much worse.
Basically, the available space is constant, and the number (and volume) of cars wanting to park on it tends to increase. Grin and bear it - or move ...
Edited by Andrew-T on 06/12/2009 at 16:16
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some people dont know how lucky they are, apart from sundays i have to park roughly 800 yards away from my flat because of yellow lines everywhere...but you dont hear me complaining, double drive indeed!!!
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I'm well aware that my neighbour and his visitors can legally park opposite my drive but I don't think its too much to expect some consideration from others. I have been putting up with this guy for about four years now and in the past have even allowed him to use my drive whilst he had a skip parked on his for a month or so, but now my patience is exhausted.
I know its petty to indulge in 'parking games' for revenge but taking the moral high ground hasn't done me any good so far, so I've decided to play him at his own game. All I'm doing is excercising my right to park legally (albeit inconsiderately) in the street, he shouldn't have a problem with that should he?
Edited by merganser on 06/12/2009 at 16:20
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I know its petty to indulge in 'parking games' for revenge but taking the moral high ground hasn't done me any good so far so I've decided to play him at his own game.
Oh dear MG you sounded like a reasonable chap, and you are going into a peeing contest with someone who sounds like they're quite good at it, trying to teach someone who obviously cares not a jot about his neighbours will end in tears.
I await the outcome with a resigned sigh, good luck with this you'll need it.
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...yeah, its posh here...
...see what I mean Ifi?...
Altea,
I'll refrain from pointing out the missing apostrophe 'cos I'm starting to lean towards your way of thinking on this one. :)
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...yeah its posh here... ...see what I mean Ifi?... Altea I'll refrain from pointing out the missing apostrophe 'cos I'm starting to lean towards your way of thinking on this one. :)
I'll have a word with the local busy body watch here, we might let you have a plot after all.
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... we might let you have a plot after all...
Aw, thanks Altea.
I always said you toffs wuz alright, really.
And just 'cos I wipe me nose on me sleeve don't make me a bad person, does it?
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>>but you dont hearme complaining double drive indeed!!!
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It's tough here, if I have four cars on my drive I can't get the fifth one in or out of my garage.
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The thing is with a situation like this is that we surmise, assume and speculate, but no one knows the actual factuals of this matter (any pics?)
I have (in my time) been both the offender and the offended where inconsiderate parking has occurred, and I've been right every time :-)
The real problem is that your road is just too damn narrow.
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The only mistake so far Merganser, has been your request to the neighbour - although it's difficult to guess peoples' reactions in advance of course. Far more effective not to have said anything - it's now become an issue. Some people seem to like causing annoyance (viz, your neighbour's wife's comment..) & relish opportunities to cause further irritation.
I doubt now, whether you'll get any co-operation from the irritants at all, so, while trying to lessen collateral damage to nice neighbours, I would park on the road occasionally and/or advise any visitors to do so.
It's surely more convenient for you to do this, and since the irritants have shown they consider this ok for them & their visitors, it's should be fine for you & yours too.
It's not petty to do this - as you can't put yourself at disadvantage by being scrupulously fair & must now accept the changed dynamic.
Forget the unhelpful comments posted here & don't be tempted into car-bumping retaliation as some have suggested.
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