My fiance is having new rear tyres fitted to her '07 Passat 2.0 tdi later this week. She will have covered just in excess of 70k on her original Dunlop SP Sports, and there is still some wear left. Her fronts managed 57k, again with a reasonable amount of wear left in them, before being replaced by Michelin Primacy HPs.
I was told, when ordering, by the fitter, not to expect similar mileage from the replacements as ''original fit tyres are always of a harder compound so you buy the same again''. Shame we can not put this to the test as we are changing brand.
I am very impressed with this wear rate on the Dunlops.
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Have you notice that tyres tend to have "tread wear rating" typically 180-320...
320 and the tyres must be made of conrete.
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running michelins on my subaru at the moment, the back tyres are the originals at 36,000 miles with 4.5mm of tread left (measured with a Mitutoyo digital calipers)
mind you there 6 years old and showing signs of cracking due to age.
in the past i changed michelins on a pug 205 after 45,000 with loads of tread just because they where dreadful in the wet and side wall cracks, went to a soft uniroyal and hey presto i could pull out onto main roads without the front wheels scrabbling for grip
paul...
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The factory-fitted Conti SportContacts on my B5.5 Passat lasted 33K on the front and 50K on the rear, which I was very pleased with.
The replacement Vredesteins lasted barely 20K on the front, but gave much less road noise and a more pliant ride (same tyre pressures) although grip was no better.
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"I was told, when ordering, by the fitter, not to expect similar mileage from the replacements as ''original fit tyres are always of a harder compound so you buy the same again''"
I don't believe that at all. Two production lines for the same tyre? From what I understand, the car manufacturers fit whatever they get a good deal on.
Sounds like very good mileage on the SP Sports. They've been around for quite a while I think. I'm guessing they must be a harder compound tyre at the expense of grip. A bit like my Goodyear NCT5s (28k fronts / 45k rears)
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I don't believe that at all.
I don't either. Some brands of tyre are available "tuned" to particular cars like MO version tyres for Mercedes. MO tyres are allegedly smoother riding but I tend to think they're the same tyres but with MO stamped on them.
Daughter's car has Dunlop SP Sport on her SEAT Ibiza and I think they would have lasted for ever wear-wise on the rear but at 4yrs and 34K miles they had horrible looking open cracks at the base of tread grooves so I changed them.
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>> I don't believe that at all. I don't either. Some brands of tyre are available "tuned" to particular cars like MO version tyres for Mercedes. MO tyres are allegedly smoother riding but I tend to think they're the same tyres but with MO stamped on them.
MO (some say Mercedes Only but I can't confirm that) relates to the tyre pressure sensors fitted to some cars. I run a BMW M5 and need to spec "MO" to ensure the pressure sensor functions correctly. I would only ever use Pilot Sport 2, I got 20k from the 275/35/18 rears which for the weight and power of the car (and the smiles and feelgood factor!) I am very happy with. The grip wet or dry is plenty for my driving style which includes the occasional trackday.
A friend got a screw in one of my front tyres whilst borrowing the car and "generously" replaced both fronts (225/40/18) with Avon ZZ3 (Ugh!) as that was all the garage had in that size, not being an "MO" type means that the pressure sensor no longer works for the fronts, its one of those things that you don't miss till you've had it and it stops working, I found it useful additionally on the track when the tyres heated up and the pressure rose. I'm no expert but this is what I have read (handbook) and been told (BMW perfomance specialist).
As for the Avons, they have given me a few "moments" mostly when exiting fast corners, some off cambers and giving it the beans its felt a bit vague and "washed out" whereas the Michelins inspire confidence, being precise and giving solid feedback.
Peter
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MO (some say Mercedes Only but I can't confirm that) relates to the tyre pressure sensors fitted to some cars. I run a BMW M5 and need to spec "MO" to ensure the pressure sensor functions correctly.
MO means Mercedes Option. BMW have an equivalent tyre approval, which, bizzarely, is a star marking.
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57K on the fronts is an amazing mileage for the torque of the 2.0 TDI engine. She must be fetherlight on the throttle to do this. Some would consider 25K to be good on this cars front tyres.
I was always depressed though when my company cars came with Dunlops, as they tend to be very hard, and whilst lasting well, are noisy and poor in the wet weather.
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Replacement Michelin Primacy HPs now fitted on rears at 72k. I had a look at the Primacy HPs on the front, fitted at 57k and they are already well worn after just 15k, so they have lasted far less than the original Dunlops.It looks like they may only last 20k!
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<<...320 and the tyres must be made of concrete.>>
One of my cars has tyres with a treadwear rating of 520. Never had any problems
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